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Published: Monday, April 28 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Salt Lake City, UT

I can tell you there will be no carbon tax imposed. The fossil fuel industries have seen to that.

Is there a more positive way to attack the issue of fossil fuel use? The goal would be to use fossil fuels more efficiently by advancing high speed rail. Yes, high speed rail would use power generated by coal-powered and gas-powered plants but it would use those fuels efficiently. Efficient high speed rail could supplant wasteful gas-fueled automobiles.

We would build the high speed rail plant and rely on its attractiveness to lure people out of their cars. All this would be without the punitive carbon tax.

If only Republicans were willing to play ball with high speed rail. High speed rail technology is proven and is in widespread in Europe, Japan, and China. Do any of these areas regret building high speed rail? Not to my knowledge.

Republicans seem determined to use fossil fuels indefinitely and as inefficiently as possible. This will get them votes in coal country, but it is bad public policy.

Thid Barker
Victor, ID

"Readers should urge their U.S. senators and representatives to support a carbon tax on fossil fuel companies and a carbon rebate to households. We are running out of time."

Totally false! We are not running out of time and the earth has been cooling for over a decade and carbon has nothing to do with it. A carbon tax will only harm the our country by driving up food costs, transportation, clothing, medicines, everything! Women and poor children will be harmed most. A carbon tax will destroy jobs in every sector and intelligent Americans should reject this misguided environmental and economic foolishness!

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Excellent letter

Except, we will never ever be able to enact a carbon tax because so many repubs have sworn to the Norquist pledge. In order to fix this, we need to vote out all repubs. Come this fall, repubs are gonna be hit and hit hard.

We need to teach them a lesson. You pledge allegiance to the flag not to Norquist.

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

When someone invents a carburetor that gets 100 miles to the gallon, It's the oil company's the buy the patten who is subsidized by the Gov who is taxing us on the gas we buy and now found another way to tax us. E10 gas decreases gas mileage, Winter gas decreases gas mileage. So we the rat races is a squeal cage.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Do the liberals really think that adding another huge tax on the United States will cause China to stop polluting the air? Do they think that if Utah pays a carbon tax that Mexico City will suddenly become clean? What is it about their "science" that shows how paying a tax will clean up the air? If we need to use fuel to get to work, to heat our homes, to run our industry, do they think that adding a huge tax will mean that we won't drive to work, that we will stop heating our homes and that industry will stop burning fuel? Do they think that a huge tax will help? How will it help? Who will it help?

The only people that will benefit from a carbon tax are politicians who will have more money to spend on pork, just as the only people who will benefit from ObamaCare are politicians who will have 18% of all revenue to spend on pork.

How much pollution does Obama cause when he flys in Air Force One? But why should he care. He's exempt from all rules.

Tooele, UT

Re: "If Congress taxes fossil fuel companies for the emissions their products cause, energy prices will increase and emissions will drop."

And, of course, the Nation's economy will fail and real people's jobs will be destroyed.

But then, that's what liberals really want, isn't it?

Thid Barker
Victor, ID

Are liberal really that ignorant of economics? Sadly, yes!

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Read your own letter.
“in Europe and in developing countries like China, annual emissions of greenhouse gases have risen almost twice as fast in the first decade of this century as they did in the last decades of the 20th century.”

How are carbon taxes in the US going to affect how much China and Europe emit? All carbon taxes do is give us a competitive disadvantage.

I think high speed rail is not a bad idea, but it will not pull commuters out of their cars, so it will not be that effective in reducing emissions.

Murray, UT

Taxes are not magic. They do not have super powers to clean up the environment, or cure cancer, or fix every ill of society.

The only super power more taxes have is the power to destroy the nation, by destroying the will to work.

Thinkin\' Man
Rexburg, ID

First, a Bostonian's opinion doesn't belong in the Deseret News.

And second, this is one of the world's worst ideas. Carbon is not a pollutant, and neither is CO2. Taxing it is simply an attempt to take money from "evil" segments of industry and put it into the pockets of "righteous" Big Green, all at the expense of you and me. It would raise the cost of everything, and will do NOTHING to affect climate, as conclusively demonstrated by numerous scientific studies.

Sandy, UT

Actually engery efficient lighting could reduce our energy needs by 50 percent if 8 percent of energy users switched over.

There is a reason utilites offer rebates and incentives for lighting retrofits.

Salt Lake City, UT

Some may hope and wish otherwise - and lobby and work against carbon fees - but the fees will eventually come because they are really the only economically viable way to get our economy and culture to wean itself from its fossil fuel addiction.
There will likely be a significant carbon fee or tax imposed on all sources, leakages, and uses of fossil carbon-based fuels and products. They will probably start off small and ramp up rapidly, with the goal of phasing out most fossil fuel use over the next 5 to 20 years - to avoid further cooking of the planet. Cutting our addiction to fossil fuels will also greatly improve air quality and health.
It's going to happen - the sooner the better.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Re: "We are running out of time"....

The letter writer gave nothing to support this presumption in the letter... just threw this in at the end (to scare us I guess).

Running out of time for WHAT?

Save the world?

Political will?

Right party in power?

Popular support fall apart?

What will change... making us "out of time"? What is going to change making us "out of time" if we don't tax NOW....?


I think individually acting now is best, but what's really going to become "too late" if we don't get Congress to increase our taxes NOW!!

Even the most global warming obsessed people (except Al Gore.. who still thinks the polar ice caps will be completely gone by 2013)... acknowledge that this change is very very slow.

From some perspectives it's already too late. The tipping point has already been reached and even if we removed all humans and industry today... we can't turn around the climate trend. It's already too late... there's already too much junk in the air.

But how will we "run out of time" if we fail to increase taxes THIS legislative session???

Please support this assertion...

Los Angeles, CA

Thank you Judy, for a well thought out letter. I know you will get a knee-jerk freak out from many readers, but if the reader really look at the proposals.. it's all good.

How has a carbon tax worked so far? The carbon tax in BC, Canada, has lowered emissions (10-19%) and has lowered taxes with the fees. Lowered taxes, not raise them! Remember it is a fee on dirty fuels, not on citizens. And the rebate more than makes up for the increases in energy prices for most of us.

And what is so powerful about this approach is that a 'green tariff' will be imposed on all goods entering the U.S. This has two benefits. One, it protects domestic industries from cheap, dirty energy goods, and two, it is a powerful lever to induce China, for example, to reduce emissions - or pay the tariff.

Murray, UT

"Remember it is a fee on dirty fuels, not on citizens."

Riiiight. Because the gallon of gas is going to pay the fee out of its wallet.

Leave it to a Californian to say an inanimate object will pay the fee, also called a tax.

Salt Lake City, UT

Re: Mike Richards "If we need to use fuel to get to work, to heat our homes, to run our industry, do they think that adding a huge tax will mean that we won't drive to work, that we will stop heating our homes and that industry will stop burning fuel? "

I agree - the carbon tax could be a severe drag on an economy struggling out of recession.

That's why I advocated for positive government policy in behalf of transport modal shift towards high speed rail, an economical use of fossil fuel based energy. Of course there's government again - you won't like that in spite of government's involvement in the first transcontinental railroad, space exploration, medical research, the internet, interstate highways etc. Building high speed rail makes energy sense and it would be great economic stimulus.

Lancaster, PA

A tax that was paid by fossil fuel to us, the consumers, is clearly our best solution to climate change. It's been endorsed by Eight Nobel economists and by the Harvard economist who co-wrote the latest IPCC report on solutions to climate change. It's simple, requires no government regulations and will save us from paying trillions for future climate change disasters. We've already paid over a Trillion in taxes for climate change (NOAA website) and it's hardly gotten started. The IEA says waiting just five more years will cost about $5 trillion. This carbon tax will cost us almost nothing, for consumers, it's a wash, a tax swap, but for fossil fuels it will be fatal.

Salt Lake City, UT

@Thid Barker
"and the earth has been cooling for over a decade and carbon has nothing to do with it. "

We just had the warmest decade in the modern record and carbon is absolutely a greenhouse gas. You're banking a lot on the weakest solar cycle in a century and a string of 4 of 6 years with La Ninas (shouldn't we be cooling rather than stalled considering the recent negative natural forcings?) Nonetheless we find that the recent La Nina years are the warmest La Nina years on record, the recent El Ninos the warmest El Nino years on record (1998 was the strongest El Nino in half a century), and the warmest ENSO neutral years the warmest neutral years on record.

Yes, people pay the taxes, but you overlook that it's cycled back through subsidies so those who are less energy wasteful are getting more back than they put in. That's the incentive for reducing emissions and the reason cap and dividend works.

Thid Barker
Victor, ID

Schnee. Growing numbers of scientists are predicting global cooling: Russia’s Pulkovo Observatory: ‘We could be in for a cooling period that lasts 200-250 years’

‘Sun Sleeps’: Danish Solar Scientist Svensmark declares ‘global warming has stopped and a cooling is beginning…enjoy global warming while it lasts’

Prominent geologist Dr. Don Easterbrook warns ‘global COOLING is almost a slam dunk’ for up to 30 years or more

Australian Astronomical Society warns of global COOLING as Sun’s activity ‘significantly diminishes’

Never let the facts get in the way of your political agenda!

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Still nobody has responded to explain why it will soon be too late... if we don't raise our taxes NOW!!!

Will the politicians we need not be there... if we don't act NOW...

Will popular opinion change... if we don't raise taxes NOW...

Will the science change... If we don't tax NOW...

Well the planet collapse... If we don't raise taxes NOW...

What exactly is going to change... making it "too late"... if we don't raise taxes NOW...?

I wish I knew what he was talking about when he says IF we don't do it NOW... it will be too late...


If he's talking about Climate Change... that is already happening... or isn't (depending on which side you are on). So it's either too late already... or the planet can handle things and it's not imperative that we raise taxes NOW... to stop global warming... NOW...


If it's one of the political things... I say it can wait.


If it's really going to be too late IF we wait a week or 2... it's probably to late already...

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