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Published: Sunday, April 27 2014 12:05 a.m. MDT

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Anonymous100
Anywhere, UT

Obamacare was passed without a single Republican vote and only after backroom deals, bribes, lies and threats (from democrat leaders like Pelosi) to secure enough democrat votes to get it passed. This is not good law. It cannot be "fixed." Those who did not have healthcare still do not. Millions of Americans who had health insurance lost their coverage due to this bad law and were literally forced into Obamacare, against their will, and at a much higher cost than what they had before. The best thing to do is for DEMOCRATS to join with Republicans and scrap this monstrosity with the agreement that they will start over and work together to come up with something that is much, much better for America and Americans.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

Thank you DN for allowing the viewpoint in this article to be expressed in your newspaper.

micki
Sebastopol, CA

The GOP in congress has tried over 30 times to repeal Obamacare, without really providing a viable alternative. Not only this but they have refused to approve a Jobs Bill, or Equal pay for Women, many of whom are hard working women, mothers trying to provide for their families. It seems there is a real change of heart needed, a re-organizing of priorities. Instead of only helping their wealthier supporters, maybe the GOP in congress needs to do the job that the PEOPLE who voted for them put them there to do, that is to improve the quality of life for ALL the people, not just the few massively wealthy lobbyists.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

I cannot express how reassuring it is to read how repubs still think that they can kill the ACA.

Nothing screams 8 years of Hilary than seeing repubs still stuck 5 years into the past thinking that they can just obstruct things and make the ACA go away.

rvalens2
Burley, ID

ObamaCare will fail because it is designed to fail.

When that happens (and it will) the Federal government will step in and say, "See, we tried an insurance company, private sector, solution and it didn't work! We now need the Federal government to step in and take over health care in order to deal with this crisis."

Liberals and Progressives do not want to have insurance companies at all. They want a single payer, government controlled, tax payer supported health care system. A system, where THEY get to decide not only what level of care you get, but whether or not you get health care at all.

"Over 70, too bad, we're not paying for that expensive procedure. Why don't you just die?"

one old man
Ogden, UT

"GOP should stop fighting Obamacare and work to improve it"

Well, DUH!

But that might require some actual THOUGHT. Something that is in short supply under the GOP's tiny tent.

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT

"work to improve it" is a viable option given the limitation of the Republican Party. With Tea Party Republicans trying to squash the Reagan Republicans, the Republican will never come up with an alternative to the ACA.

Without a unified alternative, a Republican Congressman may suggest something like "allow buying insurance across state lines". That is an improvement to the ACA, not a replacement. Its the best Republicans can do right now.

rvalens2
Burley, ID

If ObamaCare is so great, why isn't President Obama going to get his health care from it?

Oh sure, he signed up for the Bronze plan, but it was all symbolic. He knows that he and Congress are going to use the much better, taxpayer supported government plan for their health care.

If ObamaCare is good enough for US, then why isn't it good enough for them?

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

I fail to see how a law passed without consulting Republicans, passed by backdoor deals, threats, and locked doors, without a SINGLE Republican vote, can be considered a good law. All this when the vast majority of Americans opposed it and, despite Obama's promise to give the public 5 days to view the bill and give feedback before signing it, he IGNORED them (because they said "no") and signed it asap! Then there's the "we have to pass it to find out what's in it!" line by Nancy Pelosi. And don't forget Obama couldn't get it passed with it being a tax (he called it a fine, not a tax), then couldn't get it considered constitutional with it being a fine (then he called it a tax, not a fine).

Imagine if Bush had signed a major piece of legislation in which he locked Democrats out of the discussions, bribed Republicans who opposed the bill, and passed it without a single Democrat vote. I know Bush signed some unpopular laws, but at least they at least had SOME Democrat support!

Do what's best for America. Repeal Obamacare.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

If it weren't for the fact that the illiterate, the illiterate poor, the patronizing calculating Socialists, the historical ignorant crowd, and lastly, and certainly not least, is the lead by compulsion crowd were voters I'd have more hope for its repeal. Only a miracle, and enough people returning to the Constitution and God, is there a chance. I will take that chance. I

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

This is also true of immigration, entitlement reform, education, land use, and who knows how many other things. We can come to broad compromises on all these things. It seems that we let a minority of people on both sides of the aisle bring compromise to a halt. We should all have learned by now that in a diverse country an "all or nothing" attitude usually gets you nothing.

McMurphy
St George, Utah

liberal larry is close to getting it. The first Republican response to Obamacare was to "repeal and replace." Then there was a long period, including all of the House votes, of just repeal. While there are numerous problems with Obamacare too many people are not interested in just going back to the pre-Obamacare days. Now that Republicans are actually talking about fixing the problems that Obamacare was supposed to address there may a possibility of correcting the technical problems in Obamacare. Straight repeal ain't gonna happen.

Ralph West Jordan
Taylorsville, UT

Bandersen 12:12PM Says it all. Read and re-read this post! It tells all who are real conservatives and anyone left of center just what the the Tea Group and extreme right think of those who are not totally in agreement with their agenda! I will say that the " the illiterate poor, the patronizing calculating Socialists, the historical ignorant crowd," didn't do to bad during the last two presidential elections. As a life long conservative I don't see change anytime soon.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

If ObamaCare is so great, why does Obama make us "rich guys" (those who work hard enough to pay income tax) subsidize those who won't or can't work hard enough to pay income tax? There is a huge difference between requiring that insurance companies offer insurance to those with pre-existing conditions and requiring that you and I pay most of the premiums for those policies in addition to paying for our own policy. Let all government workers, including the President, be assigned doctors, hospitals and insurance policies. Let them pay the highest rate, because they are the highest paid people in government.

Some liberals think that they have the right to force everyone else to do whatever it is that they think society needs. They want the minimum wage raised. Fine. Let them offer to give the bulk of their own paycheck to someone who earns less than then do. Let all workers in the White House, including the President, receive the same (low) wage. If they want to equalize things, start with the White House. Let them lead the way.

Jack
Aurora, CO

Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha....oh,this is a great comedy sketch........

what? this is supposed to be serious?

You can't fix a train wreck with amendments. You have to clean up the mess, re-lay the track and start again. The US healthcare system needed to have that same approach, but the ACA was a fantastic overreach that will bankrupt the nation. You can't fix that with a few amendments. The Republican proposals haven't gotten past the Senate, where they refuse to even consider them. Must be nice when you can complain that there haven't been any attempts to fix it and then not allow any amendments. I think they call that being disingenuous..

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

"GOP should stop fighting Obamacare and work to improve it"

Of course they should. But what are the chances of the GOP actually doing something right for a change?

. . . Not good, I'm afraid.

They're too caught up in the myths they keep inventing and reinventing . . . all the falsehoods they generate while trying to make their ridiculous ideology sound viable.

I think, deep down, a lot of Republicans are not nearly as clueless as they seem to be.

They know that ObamaCare is in fact good for the country, and they are extremely embarrassed that they refused to help design the ACA when they had a chance.

And so they insist Obama can't work. They are stubbornly sticking to their story in spite of all evidence that shows their beliefs to completely false.

What would make the Repubs admit their mistakes and their past silliness?

That would take some real integrity.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Thid Baker –

Force is evil?

Really?

The force of public opinion evil too? . . . The force of public opinion turning in favor of the ACA and against regressive Republicans? I don’t think so.

How about the force of good sense and reason that are allowing many to see just how ridiculous Right Wing Extremism really is? Is that evil too? NOPE.

Let the force of Good prevail.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

I get a little tired of all the blame for the failure of Obamacare is due to "tea-party conservatives".

Are Mitch McConnell, Lindsay Graham, Orrin Hatch all "tea party conservatives? I'm doubtful.

Obamacare WILL be repealed for the variety of reasons that others have already pointed out.

I just hope that in the long-run democrats learn that they CAN'T govern by one-man rule. Essentially the last 5 yrs. have been wasted!

CASteinman
San Diego, CA

Why is the Deseret News letting such a biased organization as Americans for Democratic Action speak for it? Does Deseret News not have its own editorial staff?

And why should we just "accept" that the law is the law -- when everyone knows laws can be rescinded and the President is repeatedly breaking this law?

Lots of fixes that people like can be put into place without the massive federal bureaucracy this brings and without IRS intervention in our medical health and welfare.

idazut
Riverton, UT

Article says:

"It’s time for the GOP to accept that the ACA is the law of the land"

Not even Mr. Obama accepts that. He keeps changing the law, extendidng deadlines and waiving portions of it. If it is the "law of the land" then he is bound by his oath of office to enforce it exactly the way Congress wrote it.

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