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Published: Sunday, April 27 2014 12:05 a.m. MDT

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Swartzy
Arlington, TX

I do not support the ACA. I want health care for all those who do not have it, but I feel this program, the ACA is unsustainable in how it is set up. It also give the GOVT too much power and say in how our health care is handled right down to our visit in our Doctor's office. I have many Doctors, nurses and other health care providers in my family and not a single one of them supports the limitations of the ACA. it is only affordable for the people who are getting GOVT assistance with the insurance. How is that affordable for all of us who have to pay full price? It is not, there is no FREE in the program, we all have to pay for it. It will implode. We could have put up free clinics all across the USA for a fraction of what this program is costing. I do not agree with the author of this article, I see it so much differently. I am hoping we can dismantle this program and then put forth one that really works and is sustainable. But I will never support this one, NEVER.

JMH
Provo, UT

Mr. Rice is a bit disingenuous in his comments. He knows that if the Democrats in Congress were to open ACA for amendments it would not look like it is today. The improvements that he speaks of are not the ones that might appear and then they would be force to stall them in the Senate or have the President veto them. This bill was passed on a strictly partisan vote and that is never a good thing, no matter the party. But to no suggest that Republicans should just roll over and allow the changes the Democrats want is simply ludicrous.

If he was truly interested in making improvements he would urge the President and the Senate to fully open the bill with a series of hearings and up or down votes on changes with assurance that the President will accept them. That is not going to happen and he knows it.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Let's just nurture the better part of an adulterous relationship, rather than admitting it was wrong in the first place! You either believe Socialism is good and pursue it or you admit it is worse than bad policy and fight to get rid of it! The sweet and honey dripping words can't fool some of us!

samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

I'd say the best way to improve Obamacare, for both the Democrats and Republicans, is to remove it.

Replace it with a truly free enterprise system that would reward cost saving by returning cost responsibility to the customer. Make sure the users of healthcare are the payers of healthcare and made aware of the actual costs, with a system that allows worthwhile comparisons of the product (medicines, hospitals, doctors, etc.) so that there is a means by which the HUGE consumer advantages of competition are part of the cost cutting equation.

Like every other instance where government is inserted into the process the net result will be inefficiency, waste, corruption, incompetence, ineffectiveness AND, as a consequence of all those deleterious factors, **higher costs**.

We can do much better than Obamacare. But, all improvements over it should start with its removal.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

The people of this country don't want Obamacare and have never supported it. It was passed over the heads of the American people by use of dirty tricks and shoddy parliamentary maneuvers. There's no reason why Republicans should stop trying to get rid of something the people don't want.

cmsense
Kaysville, UT

Many many good points. There is no going back to pre ACA. Lets work together and make it work, not endlessly trying to tear it down out of political spite.
Reform should be based on sound principles. I don't care if good ideas come from Democrats or Republicans, lets use what is effective and abandon the rest. Good government should be effective, fair, as simple as possible and not pick winners or losers. It also needs also help the most destitute and those unable to help themselves.
Whether you buy insurance in the individual market, through your employer, or small business, or if you are a member of a union there should be no special tax benefits, coverage protections etc that all the others can't enjoy.
Lets face it, a lot of the ACA is based on Republican ideas only implemented by a democrat. It mirrors Romneycare with a marketplace and with subsidies for the needy.

md
Cache, UT

If I am forced to buy a ship made with duct tape and concrete, which will never float, I don't think adding a few layers of duct tape will fix it. Time to scrap it and find an answer that is somewhere between the extremes of socialism and right-wing fanaticism. How about a compromise for legislation that works for BOTH sides. Not a 2500 page mess that none of the lawmakers read before passing it. Look at our economy. Look at the fact that 50% of those who signed up for this "reform" haven't paid for their premiums. This is not sustainable. Middle class Americans hurt the most from this debacle. Scrap it and elect legislators and a President who will work together to solve the problems that this country faces.

Lets check the facts
Santa Fe, NM

Wrong! Getting the government out of our lives would be the only improvement. There is certainly a place for the government to help with the truely needy. But having the government controlling every aspect of our lives is NOT the way to do that.

Thid Barker
Victor, ID

Obamacare is fundamentally morally flawed because the entire law is based on an evil principle; force. It forces some people to work for that which they will not receive so others may receive what they did not work for. We used to call that slavery but now we call it Obamacare. Shall we work to "fix" slavery or should we abandon slavery? Obamacare is not about healthcare at all, its about power and control: Who controls you? If we keep Obamacare the answer to that question is, not YOU!

liberal larry
salt lake City, utah

It is becoming obvious that the maniacal efforts by conservatives to undermine, and demonize the Affordable Healthcare Act are starting to wear thin. Largely due to the slow roll out, and hundreds of millions of dollars spent by conservative donors like the Koch Brothers, the ACA has had to overcome a huge PR disadvantage, but things are starting to change.

A poll by the Upshot/Kaiser shows that even in rabidly anti-Obama South, the majority of respondents would like to improve the ACA, and NOT REPEAL it! In fact some of the Southerners interviewed in a New York Times article, said they are tired of all the yammering to "repeal Obamacare".

The tide of public opinion is slowly starting to turn, the ACA is here to stay.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "Now is the time for the congressional GOP to . . . get to the business of making sure the Affordable Care Act works for everyone."

Well, at least liberals are finally admitting that Obamacare is an unworkable, unmitigated disaster, needing enormous assistance, just to stay afloat.

But, their suggestion that the real people most adversely affected by it are somehow obligated to ride to their rescue and salvage something good from it is just rubbing salt into the gaping wound they created.

There is no rescuing Obamacare. Liberals designed it to collapse, and it is living out the full measure of its creation -- collapsing on itself, in the process bringing down the best, most efficient, effective, and compassionate health-care delivery system ever established.

Now is certainly not the time for congressional RINOs to assume their accustomed capitulatory pose. Rather, they should salvage the best of the wonderful healthcare system we had before liberals undertook to "fix" it.

In other words, what Congress should now do is act to fulfill Obama's cynical, disingenuous promise that, if we liked what we had, we could keep it.

Furry1993
Ogden, UT

Well said.

10CC
Bountiful, UT

Republicans might wake up and realize that Obamacare actually represents the market-based approach that conservatives came up with as a response to Hillary Clinton's single payer model.

They should, but if history is a guide, they'll be too busy trying to out-do each other in trying to establish who is more anti-Obama and anything he stands for, in the process paving the way for a single payer solution.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

In the past, whenever large and complex bills were passed by congress they would go back a couple of years later and pass what is called a "technical adjustments bill". Large and complex bills are always found to have phrasing that is confusing or contradictory, as well as minor details that were overlooked in the original drafting.. These bills cleaned up these flaws and made the programs work better. With the ACA this process has been impossible, because any attempt at even minor changes would have been used by the Republicans to kill the law or poison it.

It could be made better, but not by the current congress.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

It is a success and may not be a smart move to take away insurance policies for people who have it for the first time. But that has not stopped the GOP to use this as the only issue. Maybe one more election loss will get rid of the radical tea party elements.

ordinaryfolks
seattle, WA

The ACA has issues that ought to be dealt with, but it is silly in the extreme to believe that the current system of health care will change in a meaningful way. It is also silly to constantly bring up this "government controlled" nonsense. 70-80% of people get their health care coverage from their employer. I don't hear anyone complaining about a lack of choice of carriers or employer controlled health care choices made for you without your consent. Or that you stand of chance of losing your preferred health care network when you change jobs, if the insurance for your new employer does not recognize your doctor/hospital/treatments in their provider network.

No one complains too much about the "socialist" Medicare system we have for the elderly. And no one advocates for ridding us of the Medicaid programs all states have. (We only argue about how poor you have to be to qualify.)

The main complaint about ACA is really that that awful Obama is the President who signed the bill.

Rikitikitavi
Cardston, Alberta

Where does the author get off with this diatribe knocking GOP opposition to the ACA? There is absolutely nothing remotely affordable about the ACA. Plus, Americans have been lied to from the get-go. Enough with the attack on GOP. They have only stopped working toward compromise because the ACA fiasco is totally unfixable. Obama has become so laughable with his changes, exceptions, delays, and extensions it is appalling. This White House is rife with incompetence, and is totally lacking in leadership. Governing via executive order is a huge cop out and is evidence of the blatant arrogance of the egotist in the oval office: completely un-willing and incapable of bringing both sides together.

idazut
Riverton, UT

The ACA, with an assist from the Supreme Court, sets a precedent that gives the federal government the power to force us to buy anything the federal government decides that we should have. It doesn't matter whether the enforcement mechanism is called a penalty or a tax it still gives the federal government a dangerous power not found anywhere in the Constitution. This is the primary reason that the law must be repealed but there are others. Inhibiting job growth, trapping people in part time jobs woking less than 30 hours per week and failure to proveide health care to the 30 million uninsured that were the primary reason for the law are some other major reasons.

We now have three major health care programs with the potential to bankrupt the country and we still have not solved the problem of providing health care to the uninsured. It's time to scrap all three and start over with something that actually works.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

The underlying premise of the article, that cooperation is better than obstructionism for it's own sake, is sound. The ACA can be improved if we work together on it.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: ". . . Obamacare actually represents [a] market-based approach . . . ."

Yeah, that's why it has a totalitarian, forced participation component. One that relies for enforcement on the heavy heel of government, pressed against the neck of anyone with the audacity to believe he has the ability to reject participation.

Market-based? "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

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