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Published: Sunday, April 27 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Sven
Morgan, UT

This was a good ruling by SCOTUS. Racial Preference, no matter how it is spun, is noting but blatant racism.

If denying someone admission to a college based on their color is wrong; it is equally wrong to admit someone based on their color or race. Ditto jobs, or contracts.

Affirmative Action is the ultimate in disrespect and condescension towards minorities.

Esquire
Springville, UT

In other words, we should be free to perpetuate the racial discrimination that is such an important part of our nation's heritage. Heaven forbid that we should try to undue the mess we made.

Sven
Morgan, UT

Esquire said:

"In other words, we should be free to perpetuate the racial discrimination that is such an important part of our nation's heritage. Heaven forbid that we should try to undue the mess we made."

Spoken like a true, guilt ridden liberal.

Nice try, but don't push your guilty conscience on the rest of us. Using racism to fight racism is pure nonsense. Blacks, and other minorities have as much of a chance to succeed today on their own merits as anyone else. It's Sad Liberals have such a low view of minorities.

Esquire
Springville, UT

Sorry you don't get it, Sven, with your life of privilege as compared to African-Americans (slavery), Japanese-Americans (concentration camps) and Native Americans (genocide and forced relocations). You can't run from our history as a nation, and it's clear you are oblivious to the effects.

Monsieur le prof
Sandy, UT

Frederick Douglass, the famous black Abolitionist, once rightly said, "The American people have always been anxious to know what they shall do with us... I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are worm-eaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall, let them fall! ... And if the negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone! If you see him on his way to school, let him alone, don't disturb him! If you see him going to the dinner table at a hotel, let him go! If you see him going to the ballot box, let him alone, don't disturb him! If you see him going into a work-shop, just let him alone, — your interference is doing him positive injury."

I know what he would have said about Affirmative Action attempts...

Sven
Morgan, UT

Esquire said:

"Sorry you don't get it, Sven, with your life of privilege as compared to African-Americans (slavery), Japanese-Americans (concentration camps) and Native Americans (genocide and forced relocations). You can't run from our history as a nation, and it's clear you are oblivious to the effects.”

First, you don't know a thing about me. You have no clue how I grew up, where I grew up, or what privileges (if any) that I may have had. You are making assumptions about things you know nothing about.

Secondly, no Blacks living today were ever slaves. Conversely, no white people living today were ever slave owners. I don’t discriminate or oppress minorities; therefore, I refuse to have liberals confer their guilt to me.

Lastly, it is the Democrat party who has the history of being bigots in our nation’s history:

* Jim Crow segregation laws were enacted by Democrats

* 1964 Civil Rights Act: Democrat support 61%; Republican support 80%. Interestingly, former Democrat Senator Robert K Byrd (Former Exalted Cyclops in the KKK) filibustered the 1964 Civil Rights Act, as did Democrat Al Gore Sr.

* Oh yes, it was Liberal icon and Democrat President Roosevelt who locked up Japanese-Americans

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

If the population has 30% white males then a company or university is supposed to strive to have 30% white males in it's organization. That's what affirmative action is. You may think it's something else because that's what you want to believe.

Since white males are becoming more and more a minority again in this land,as it was for the first billion years of it's existence, don't cry later you want fair representation if a Chinese corporation chooses to only hire Asians.

Thid Barker
Victor, ID

@ Esquire, Yes we do get it! To tell African Americans or any other minority that they need "preferential treatment" in order to succeed is an insult to them! Its like telling them they are incapable, because of their race. They are the ones who should be outraged, not you!

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Esquire,

Race does not inherently prevent someone from accomplishing something.

My skin color never helped me in math class

It didnt help solve physics problems

It didnt help me write English papers.

A white kid in a poor neighborhood has the same disadvantages as a black kid in a poor neighborhood.

I don't feel sorry for black people alive today for past injustices just as I don't feel sorry for Jews today for past injustices to their ancestors.

Racism is racism

Dr king and rosa parks would applaud the ending racism and affirmative action

samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

"If, however, you wish to be rid of this baleful legacy and banish race preferences once and for all, do what Michigan did."
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I hope someday there will be enough people who are so sick and tired of all the ridiculous "isms" used to manipulate people by duplicitously persuading them to assume various group identities rather than assume the only one that actually means anything, i.e., their own, unique, individual identity as a human being, that this whole issue will evaporate entirely.

The quote by Fredrick Douglass given above is precisely right.

airnaut
Everett, 00

I wonder if Charles would feel this way about not allowing a proportion number of "Jews" into Universities or Businesses?

Thid Barker
Victor, ID

airnaut. So if I fail, its someone else's fault? Where do people become responsible for themselves in your world?

Danny Chipman
Lehi, UT

Maybe after the sixties affirmative action WAS needed for a time, but I think nowadays, having a black man leading the world's most powerful country, as well as having many people of various ethnicities occupying high places in politics, entertainment, sports, legal and medical fields, etc., I think we can safely say that affirmative action is no longer needed. In fact, as others mentioned, it may actually now be hurting minorities in that it lowers standards of achievement and tells them they can't get far without getting special treatment. Our country, as a whole, has finally moved on.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

airnuat,

Not allowing Jews?

Or discriminating against another religion to ensure there are proportionate jews, even if those jews haven't earned it?

Ya, I'm pretty sure Charles would be against not accepting a Catholic even though he/she is more qualified simply because there aren't many Jews at the school.

Badgerbadger
Murray, UT

Danny I would like to think we have moved on, but in reality, we have moved to another realm. Instead of having real racism, we have trumped up racism based on party affiliation.

A rancher says something that some people take offense to, and he is front page crucified because he is a republican.

An NBA owner says something that the same people take offense to, and it is buried only in the sports section and no one mentions he is a big fat democrat.

Well then, the rancher's story belonged in the agriculture section, if this is about racism. But it isn't. It is about politics and the best way to wield the liberal cudgel on the conservatives.

The DN was complicit in this smear and unequal reporting.

LOU Montana
Pueblo, CO

REALLY! I had thought all of this was behind us.

It is clear that we have to keep safe guarding Affirmative Action because the evil in racis people will not accept the goodness in color.

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