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Published: Friday, April 25 2014 6:00 p.m. MDT

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bobdc6
park city, UT

"Rancher Bundy" will find that the charge for using taxpayer property to graze cattle is indeed collectable, and will find himself in federal court with his ranch at risk of forfeiture. His best way forward is to work out a deal for the payment of his rents before this happens.

snowman
Provo, UT

You do realize that the rancher has every right to say what he wants. It's call FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

Karen R.
Houston, TX

@ snowman

"You do realize that the rancher has every right to say what he wants. It's call FREEDOM OF SPEECH."

Sure. And other people have the right to report on it and criticize (or support) it. This too is free speech.

This group sounds like they are aching for a chance to prove that their paranoia is justified. A dangerous and volatile situation.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey Snowman -

"You do realize that the rancher has every right to say what he wants"

Absolutely. He is free to stand there and identify himself as a thief and PROUD of it, and he did just that.

intervention
slc, UT

How rich is that, a guy that has illegally lived on the goverment dole for twenty years making comments about people he believes are on welfare.

Anti Bush-Obama
Chihuahua, 00

Karen R.

Their paranoia became justified when NSA spying became declassified. I dont support what Bundy said which sounded racist even to me. But political correctness will be the death of the first Amendment.

Have you liberals ever thought that some people want to Govern themselves and dont need anybody to tell them what to do like a king would. Just because you want that, doesnt mean you can force it on us.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

The cattle roaming around in the Mohave desert were just props for he radical agenda. He has humiliated himself, his church and community. The mean spirit of the tea party has been exposed.

intervention
slc, UT

@anti

I agree were do people get the idea that it is alright to use their first amendment rights to make comments that disagree with bundy? It's the end of free speech for sure.

As to "self governance" when it is used as code for stealing what does not belong to you, no most "liberals" and most people in general are not likey to think about it is a ligitimate argument.

Mark B
Eureka, CA

I hope DN isn't officially the last to hop off the "Bundy wagon" after discovering too late that he's just another grumpy old confused white guy with no concept about race or law. That little group of rednecks won't be able to keep him on the gravy train forever.

AB-O: You know that electing people, not to dominate our lives, but to help manage the assets we have in common is the whole idea of our system. Want to be left alone? There's always Somalia, which is pretty much lawless, but you WILL have to hire your own army, so take plenty of cash. I prefer OUR side of that tradeoff.

Outside-View
Federal Way, WA

Any thing to try and discredit a person. He made a stupid comparrison by saying that negros (the term of his generation) might be better off having a family in slavery than living on public dole not working at all. His comments were targeted at government not race but of course, the race issue is more interesting.

I view Mr Bundy as a John Bertch type political follower which not many people will agree with. Again, he should not have spoken about race but I hate to call him a racist. That is simply left wing practise to call everyone that who doesnt accept their positions.

I dont like some heavy handed BLM rules etc either. But some commentators are saying the government over reacted by having som many law inforcement people there. I say that those law officers were needed. As for over reacting, after 20 years of not paying taxes or not paying legitimate grazing fees, I hope the goverment would react. By backing down, the goverment showed who is acting with the best judgement in this mess. Also, by pointing guns at these officers those militia men are lucky they dont have charges made against them.

BJ61
South Jordan, UT

The Bundy family's behavior is troublesome on so many levels. Their occupation of property through a self-appointed, out-of-control militia is only one glaring problem. They obviously have no regard for anyone else who wants to see the public lands managed in the public interest. They condemn the actions of the BLM as an overreach, yet they make claims to land that clearly belongs to the federal government. If illegal occupation of federal land by the Bundys were to be made valid, then the "Occupy Wall Street" crowd has a basis for claiming title to the best real estate in Manhattan. Also, anyone who honestly reads the legal documents that made Nevada a state and the U.S. Constitution cannot escape the clear fact that Nevada relinquished any and all claims to federal lands within its borders when it became a state. Bundy's statement that he doesn't recognize the authority of the U.S, government is also appalling. His lack of recognition of the U.S. makes him an illegal immigrant at best and a traitor at worst.

LOU Montana
Pueblo, CO

All men are created equal and the law shall be applied equally to all men.

To give Bundy special privilege would be making an exception to the Constitutional Law.

How then if all these people are screaming about saving and preserving the law of the Constitution could they ever support Bundy?

LittleStream
Carson City, NV

That this man is getting all this media coverage for not paying money he owes just goes to show what is wrong with the media in our day and age. We would certainly do better to worry about some real social ills in our country.

Karen R.
Houston, TX

@ Anti-Bush-Obama

"Have you liberals ever thought that some people want to Govern themselves and dont need anybody to tell them what to do like a king would."

I live in Texas. Are you kidding?

My suspicion is that those who complain about the heavy chains of government have no idea how much of their success is enabled by what we ask our governments to do. They see only what they don't like and want to throw the baby out with the bath water.

So I would love to do an experiment in which all of the Clive Bundy types are given exactly what they want: A place all their own. But there will be no existing infrastructure, no type of order already established. They will have to do all the work that their fellow citizens (aka the government) now do for them.

I would really like to see how that would work out. We would have to guard our borders while we watch though. It seems some of them feel entitled to profit off of land that they don't own.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

" . . . doesn't back down, from words or deeds . . . "

Let's see now . . . are we talking about the gang member who charged a government witness in Federal Court and was gunned down by US Marshalls?

. . .Or are we talking about the guy who has become a cult hero in Right Wing America because of his propensity for thievery.

One of them seems kind of heroic in a way, and the other one . . . Not so much.

Anti Bush-Obama
Chihuahua, 00

Mark B

I can play this card too. If you want total gun control, total equality, somwhere that the Government has all the money, Militia free. There is such a place. Its called North Korea. No guns for anybody but the Government. People are starving to death but at least they are being treated equally right? Not a stuffed person among them. You dont have to worry about corporations bribing politicans because there are no corporations. There is no Milita or peotestors of any kind because if anyone questions the King, they are put to death.

Obama is Jealous I think.

worf
Mcallen, TX

@LOU Montana-

"All men are created equal and the law shall be applied equally to all men."

The law is not equal. There are at least thirty states where ranchers don't pay federal grazing taxes.

The real thieves live in Washington DC. Many don't pay an honest tax, and free load.

Tekakaromatagi
Dammam, Saudi Arabia

He isn't an heir of the KKK He's just ignorant. Stupidity isn't a sin.

I think that slavery was bad for some and good for some. It was good for people like Frederick Douglas and Harriet Tubman. They became stronger fighting against its evil. It was bad for slave owners. They were the evil that the aforementioned fought against and their lives are now over and their chance to rise above their culture and paradigms is eternally over.

Whatever happens: freedom or slavery will be both good and bad. It is what we do with it that makes the difference.

iron&clay
RIVERTON, UT

The notion that the federal government should own nearly all the land in the western states is in violation of the bill of rights.*

The federal government should give back all the land and control of natural resources to state government for the benefit and prosperity of the individuals who live there.

* 10th amendment

Mark B
Eureka, CA

Yup, that's what I want. No milita OR peotestors.

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