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Published: Saturday, April 26 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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dustmagnet
heber city, UT

Industrial pollution still needs to be addressed. It is distressful that our government is not even beginning to address this contributor to the pollution.
The pollution problems in this State are so broad and extreme, that all contributors to it need to be taken to task to improve, not just the general public. We should be a model of standards that improve air quality. State of the art pollution control methods need to be required by industry. Permits issued by DEQ need to eliminate the vague language that they currently have which allows industry to exceed the Clean Air Act standards thus preventing enforcement of the Clean Air Act.

dustmagnet
heber city, UT

We also need the facts presented by the press, regarding expansion of polluting activities, such as our own "Keystone pipeline" that is now being proposed. Do we want to increase the pollution/production coming from the refineries? Do we want to put at risk major culinary water sources? Why can't this pipeline be routed elsewhere (like Cheyenne) or refined on site? Why must the people of the Wasatch front bear the risk?
Citizens of the State need to get involved in the election process and vote in government officials who are responsive to our needs - not just industries'.

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

Where did all the dirt in the air come from yesterday. It was as thick as fog. I think it was because I just washed my car. The solution I think, I shouldn't wash my car.

airnaut
Everett, 00

The Washington-based publications focused on four topics: the city’s strong export-driven economy, Utah’s approach to immigration, an interview with Mayor Ralph Becker on escaping the recession — and air quality.

This last issue presents a very strong negative. It could — if the city and state leaders aren’t careful — begin to overpower the positives.

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Wrong!

The last THREE present a very strong negative to Utah Republicans.

Immigration reform was REJECTED,
They hate everything Ralph Becker says or does,
and they do NOT want to do anything about the horrible air quality.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

" . . . strong quality of life . . ."

You bet. Just take a deep breath and hold it . . . After a while you'll believe anything.

Did you know that carcinogens are good for you?

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: ". . . We still look to Herbert and Utah Department of Air Quality to take action on Tier 3 fuel standards . . . ."

Look, if radical activists want to triple the cost of their transportation in Utah, Salt Lake, and Davis counties -- more power to them.

But, there's no reason to drag the air-attainment counties into that job-killing, economy-destroying death spiral.

This is an issue that should be handled county-by-county, not shoved down the throats of all Utahns by a tiny cabal of radical, tree-hugging socialists. This approach would be a win-win -- tree huggers kill the economy along the Wasatch Front, and all the jobs flow into counties populated by real people.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

What progress?

Stericycle is still around and our bought off legislature is allowing the Holly refinery to expand. Literally, nothing was done this past legislative session to industry. No new regulations. Nothing. Zip. Zero. Nada.

So what progress is being made exactly? Other than getting a few people enjoying a BBQ in trouble?

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

Re: Procuradorfiscal "This is an issue that should be handled county-by-county, not shoved down the throats of all Utahns by a tiny cabal of radical, tree-hugging socialists. "

Have you hugged your tree (or socialist) today, procuradorfiscl?

One step in the right direction would be for Frontrunner to make a lot more stops.

In this regard I can't help but wonder about Frontrunner's anemic acceleration after stops. In olden times on the San Francisco "commutes" run by Southern Pacific one can recall head snapping acceleration by their generation of diesel electric locomotives. What's with the wimpy units UTA runs?

10CC
Bountiful, UT

Procuradorfiscal:

Guess what? You're upwind of the tree-hugging liberals in Davis (cough), Salt Lake and Weber County. That means we have to breathe your exhaust, too, and since we're in the same state, you have to abide by state regulations.

Maybe to retaliate you should lobby the Californians to get rid of their high-minded standards so we can have more polluted air, and keep fueling IPP with coal, etc.

It turns out the Californians realize we're all in this together, and in fact California (and likely Utah, as well) are affected by the pollution in China.

Previously you noted the improvement in air quality in Utah, compared to 50 years ago. Scientists have been able to see the difference in air quality from the Clean Air Act implementation in ice core samples. Co-incidence? Unrelated? EPA & the Feds banning leaded gasoline have an effect?

Strider303
Salt Lake City, UT

Not totally sure about the nature of the whole problem, but I am sure another tax is the way to go. I am not sure another set of regulations on anything with the accompanying bureaucracy will solve anything either.

If the problem is better now that 50 years ago, we probably did something right, or avoided doing something wrong less often.

When I see the Whine and Brie crowd living in small condos and apartments, driving very fuel efficient cars and biking to work with Mayor Becker, I'll consider some of their ideas. I feel they want to solve their perceived problem on the back of someone else.

More people and industry will consume more resources, more resources being consumed means more transportation of some kind to bring them to the customer. All of this takes energy which will create some residue - pollution.

I understand why the legislature is approaching this cautiously, people do not like elected people who raise their taxes or destroy their livelihood on a whim.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: ". . . we're all in this together . . . ."

No, we're not. That's just the communitarian socialist mantra.

There's no reason, beyond "socialist solidarity" for the counties that are in EPA "air quality attainment areas," the counties populated primarily by real Utahns, BTW, to be bound by the ridiculously expensive and ineffective "air quality" standards being proposed by Utah's gutless big-city politicians. Enforcement of those standards outside the Wasatch Front will have absolutely no effect, whatsoever, on air quality.

Only on the quality of our lives. And that effect will be negative.

sherlock1
cache, UT

What I don't understand is why we allow Maverick to refine oil in our town, pour all the pollution into our air,and then ship the gasoline to Idaho Falls where they sell it 10 cents cheaper than anywhere along the Wasatch front. Industrial pollution needs to be addressed. Big lobbies are protecting the mining and refining in the valley. We should require them to build storage so they can refine extra on good air days and then cut way back on red air days. They could easily refine and store more gasoline during the summer, then store in tanks for the winter months when the air is stagnant. Simple little moves like this would help out tremendously.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

More unchecked growth, more oil burning means more Utah. Just need to ignore inversions and breath it in.

Dr. Doug
Littleton, CO

Dear Editors, unfortunately for Salt Lake City, the 8 bills signed into law will do little, if any, to improve visual air quality in the winter and the ozone problem in the summer. I have been responsible for the largest urban air quality studies in the U.S. over the past 25 years, and we have found that the single largest contributor to our country's urban air quality problems is the high-emitting light-duty-vehicle -- they simply are not found or repaired in emission testing programs, because program avoidance/cheating is easy. We know that only 5% of the on-road fleet of cars belches at least 75% of their pollution. The remaining 95% of the fleet is clean. Requiring "cleaner" expensive fuels and Tier 3 fuel and vehicle standards will do nothing to improve air quality, as we have repeatedly shown by our government/industry-sponsored studies. Unfortunately, politics have gotten in the way of science. The data are clear, unequivocal, and compelling. Unfortunately for Utahns, these laws provide much work for regulators, but almost nothing to truly improve air quality, in the summer and winter, in Utah. Lots of taxpayer money will be spent with little/no improvement in air quality.

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