MarvyMelvinWho cares what you consider to be post-season play? The
rest of the college basketball world understands that the NIT is still a
meaningful post-season tournament, even though it's now the little brother
to the NCAA.It's laughable that our jealous little brother in
St George doesn't want to give Rose any credit for the Jimmer years. Duke
IS a bigger program than BYU, just like Kentucky, Kansas, North Carolina and
several other blue-blood programs, but BYU doesn't have to be Duke in order
to be successful.btw, even the blue bloods sometimes crash and burn
- see Duke 2014, even with Jabari Parker.I suppose, in your mind,
that must mean that Coach K has lost it and is no longer one of the top
basketball coaches in the country.
Mountainman56You are comparing apples to apples (or Roses to Roses
as it may be). Rose's record is good compared to other BYU coaches, but
your reference to 9 years of post season play is meaningless. I don't
consider the NIT post season play. It is just a chance to shoot some hoops when
64 other teams are doing something meaningful. You are happy that BYU has made
the tourney 7 out of 9 years. That's the mediocrity I was talking about. I
guess it is not just the AD but the fans also. Jabari has said many times BYU
was on his radar. If it was not Rose per se, it was because he saw Duke making a
bigger splash in the post season. In the era of the big dance being the
"prize", conference wins and conference tourney wins are meaningless.
Almost as meaningless as football bowl games. Recruiting is actually not bad.
Even the pollsters see the potential in the BYU roster. BYU has had a higher
rank at the beginning of the season only to drop year after year (please
don't tell me about the Jimmer years). That was not Rose's doing.
Enjoy the mediocrity.
eating crowTrying to equate Big Dance no show Utah with perennial
NCAA tournament UCLA is laughable.
"Peace out Carlino. First UCLA, then BYU, and now Marquette. At what point
do you ask the question, "Maybe this is a 'me'
problem..."?"In statistics, we determine what the common
denominator is. You hit the nail on the head. "Carolino does
not have the talent to play at the U why do you think he transferred from a
Pac12 school to a WCC school"Any step to a Utah school would
have been a significant step down. When a PAC-12 school barely makes the NIT and
loses to the number 4 team in the WCC, you know you have work to do.
@MarvyMelvinYour analysis of Dave Rose is way off base. First and
foremost, he has won the most games of any coach in BYU history with 207 wins.
The next closest is Roger Reid with 152. He also has the highest winning
percentage at 76.1% of any BYU coach since Henry Rose went 8-0 in 1910-11. (No
idea if they are related). Finally he's had the best record of getting to
post season play having played in all 9 years with 7 of the 9 going to the
NCAA's. No coach in BYU history and few any where come close to matching
what Rose has accomplished in his tenure at BYU. Also, where do you get this
crazy idea that BYU always has 5 bigs sitting on the bench? That would sure be
nice but absolutely has not been the case. And if you think Jabari would have
come to BYU if there had been a different coach, you're dreaming. He was
always going to Duke and no other coach at BYU would have changed that. We are
fortunate to have Dave and I just hope we get to keep him for a good long time
Carlino had more than just potential, he was very good both when the offense was
set up for him and also when it wasn't. I think the bigger problem is Dave
Rose. It seems like mediocrity is just fine with the BYU Athletic Dept. I find
myself scratching my head at Rose's inability to get his players
"up" for big games, his over recruiting PG's and SG's who are
all the same, and over focus on one player each and every year. His offensive
sets are elementary, I use the same sets with my junior high team. And I learned
them from when I played Saturday league as a five year old. We always seem to
have 5 bigs sitting on the bench year after year. A lot of these guys were state
players of the year, and state all stars. Anyway, don't get me started. You
know if Rose got off his chair once in awhile it wouldn't be so bad. Jabari
would have gotten plenty of attention here. (don't forget Lillard at
Weber). He didn't come to BYU because the coach is terrible.
Carlino announces transfer to Marquette... at least for the pre-season. After
than, Matty Transfer might end up whereever. I wish no one ill but really
@ Old but not stupid Carolino does not have the talent to play at the U why do
you think he transferred from a Pac12 school to a WCC school
He always played hard, with heart and gave it his all for byu. He continued to
do so without issue when asked to come off the bench. Then, he left quietly. He
showed the same class when he transferred from UCLA. No need to disrespect him.
Stats don't lie. Carlino was one of the best guards in BYU history.
Talent of his caliber isn't easy to get. You can say he was inconsistent,
but I see a system that is stuck on playing one type of basketball and not
getting all the talent involved. Making the tournament shouldn't be the
goal. The team has too many good players to settle for a first round loss. I
love Dave Rose, but it feels like the team too often excuses performance because
of youth, injury, or a player doesn't fit the system. Carlino will tear it
up at Marquette.
Whenever Matt wasn't bringing the ball down the oourt I was a little
nervous. He was a magician at dishing to other players when he set his mind to
it. Frustration at not starting snuffed out his spirit although he was a
fantastic 6th man, which, in my opinion, is a great place to be. Better than
starting because you are injected when the team needs a kick start . Best of
luck to you and thanks for the memories.
Peace out Carlino. First UCLA, then BYU, and now Marquette. At what point do you
ask the question, "Maybe this is a 'me' problem..."? Good riddance.
Basketball scholarships are year to year...Coaches can cut a player
loose any time they want...I love to see players turn the tables on
coaches.Honor a commitment?Tell that to players who are
quietly told it's time to move on...
Watching Matt play was "the best of the times, it was the worst of
times". Against Portland, to end the season, he was simply amazing. His
first game in Cougar blue against Baylor was spectacular.I agree
with morganh, this is a win-win. Matt didn't like coming off the bench, he
wanted more minutes and the Cougs are going to be deeper at the guard line next
year.I will watch every Marquette game I can to see how Matt is
doing, just like I watch Clemson to see how Demarcus is doing. I
wish you well.
Good luck to you Matty. He contributed to BYU basketball and will be missed.
Wish him the best of luck!
Congrats to Matt on his impending graduation. Well done.Best of luck
at Marquette.Never quite understood all the criticism of his play.
The Y typically puts a lineup on the floor with at least two guys who won't
shoot the ball, so teams really only have to guard three guys. Almost all their sets are designed to get Hawes shots. When teams stopped
those sets, or Hawes had a poor shooting game, the offense was terribly
stagnant. Carlino was the one of the few players who could create his own
shots.His attitude was upbeat even when he went to the bench. He
probably had more plays that hyped up the home crowd than any other player. He had his shortcomings, they all do, but on balance was certainly one
of the best five players on the team.I will remember him fondly and
wish him Godspeed.
Good luck to Matt Carlino. Did some good things for the Cougars. Wishing you the
best at Marquette University.
@Vegas UteI "respectfully" decline to heap praises on a guy
that cannot follow through with his commitment to play for a Universitiy for the
3rd time in his career. I think this proves his selfishness. I agree with
BYUalum that when he played team ball, within the system, he was great.
Unfortunately we only saw glimpses of that. BYU is better off now.
Carlino could see the writing on the wall with the addition of RM Washington
State 4A player of the year Jordan Chatman, Wake Forest transfer Chase Fischer,
and UNLV transfer Jamaal Aytes. His minuets would be greatly reduced and he
wants more playing time. Marquette needs a starting point guard so it is a
win-win for both schools. B.Y.U. will be just fine with out him and next year
with their senior leadership and these new additions I expect that they will
once again be in the NCAA Tournament.
Good luck Matt on this move and on your future.Wannabe - seriously?
How about a little respect?
It looks like he will get to play in a conference tourney in Madison Square
Garden. The Big East as a conference was stronger than the WCC, even though
Marquette itself didn't qualify for any postseason tourney. The Big East
is also located in bigger media markets that get more national attention than
the WCC does. The Big East are Fox Sports #1 basketball conference so they get
a lot of the conference shown in games on primetime for the East Coast instead
of at 11 pm or midnight. So definitely some plusses for the move. He was a key
contributor while he was here but I think the Cougs will be able to get over him
Old But Not Stupid"I know he did not want to make a lateral move
to the U."Making a move to the U would definitely have been a
step down.Big Dance > no dance
I appreciated Carlino's spark to the BYU basketball team. I, however,
thought he was a "wild card." You didn't know from game to game
what he would/could produce. I agree that most times on the playing floor it was
Carlino all for himself. When he was unselfish and shared the ball, he was a
definite asset to the team. He was otherwise frustrating to watch!
Yes Chris B an obvious step up. I would much rather be at a school that
didn't make the big dance last year.
Good luck Carlino. Tough to see you go, but you might be able to help Marquette
get back to the post-season. Leaving a tourney team to go to a team that
didn't make the post season gives you a chance to prove your worth.
Chris BSalt Lake City, UT"Definitely a step up for
Carlino." Yep, that's for sure. I know he did not want to make a
lateral move to the U.
Good luck in the next step of your saga. Carlino is not a team basketball
player and plays for himself only. As seen in big games when he can't
contain himself and play within the team and he jacks up 20+ long contested jump
shots. It's no wonder he'll finish off his college career having been
affiliated with 4 different universities. He refuses be a team player. When
things continue to not work out wherever you go, the problem might just be you.
He will not be missed by me.
Best wishes Matt. God bless!
Congratulations Matt. I hope things work out for the best at Marquette, and you
find success. Thanks for the excitement you brought to BYU basketball the last
Definitely a step up for Carlino. Best of luck Matt