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Published: Saturday, April 26 2014 4:30 p.m. MDT

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Mainly Me
Werribee, 00

The best thing you can do is home school your kids.

RG
Buena Vista, VA

My wife taught in a Tremonton middle school just after we got married 23 years ago. Starting at only $16,000, even though she had to grade papers every night. She tried to be fair and to get the kids to obey, but they wouldn't, and the administration did little to back her up, and the parents did even less. They called us at home and complained to my wife about how she treated their kids. Their kids could do no wrong in their eyes. My wife was so stressed that she didn't try for a public school job again for about 15 years. For what it was worth, 90% of these kids and their parents were LDS, but I don't think the kids took the lessons they'd learned at church to heart.

MissTeaching
Layton, UT

Although I truly miss my students and loved my job, I retired from the profession sooner than I wanted to do so. School has changed a great deal since I first began teaching. I used to be able to spend time on music, where one of my talents lie, but because of all the laws, I was constantly pushing my students. I had no time to even teach Utah history. I felt like a drill sergeant. I know it is important to make sure my students perform well on their yearly testing, but it is a difficult job. My whole life revolved around it. I remember that the state passed a law declaring that we should teach gun control. So didn't happen.

birder
Salt Lake City, UT

Good article. And no, things have not changed. There is little support from parents, students, or administrators. I feel that the State Office of Education along with the Legislature do everything in their power to not help teachers or students be successful. And yes, the students are the real losers. When did you ever hear a child say, "I love school because we get to take so many tests." The current testing climate along with the stupid parts of Common Core (government regulation) have destroyed motivation for both students and teachers. I squeeze in as much fun stuff as I can, but I have students who have already given up on school in the 4th grade. They will likely drop out as soon as they can.

marxist
Salt Lake City, UT

"Lawmakers (the same lawmakers that rail against big government, waste and regulations) don’t seem to care that with each law passed they bloat education even more. " True. The same thing is happening in higher ed. Across education administration is bloating, consuming more and more resources.

School districts should be autonomous. Get rid of the state office of education. Do not pay administrators more than teachers. Have the legislature completely butt out of education.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

Mr. Florez (and some of the posters here) come from the mistaken premise that our legislature is simply misguided and if they listened to him things would change. They don't understand the vast majority of those elected to the legislature want to dismantle public education. I wish they would just decide not to fund public education at all next session and get it over with. But this brick by brick, policy by policy headache they are causing teachers and schools is indeed causing severe collateral damage. The legislature is doing exactly what it wants to do. They aren't misguided, it's part of the master plan, sort of like the turtle not noticing the water slowly warming up to boil. In 10 years Utah's public schools will be a complete disaster but instead of the public blaming the legislature as it should, it will blame the teachers or the feds or some other entity rather than realizing how voting mindlessly for any legislator with an "R" by their name has delivered this mess for their children and grandchildren.

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