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Published: Wednesday, April 23 2014 8:30 p.m. MDT

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Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

It is so tragic to see a child of God make these kinds of choices and end his life this way. when we head down the wrong path, something bad is going to happen. Really sad. My condolences go out to his family.

Strider303
Salt Lake City, UT

. "He's locked up in supermax, and he's not in the best of moods, understandably, this morning, and it certainly makes my job a lot more difficult when he's not — when he's not comfortable."

I do not have much sympathy for a convicted felon not having his every need met. Apparently Mr. Angilau was a violent man, unable to control himself and struck out when he was "not in the best of moods".

I object to painting him as some sort of victim. He was violent, dangerous and in my not so humble opinion, lethal force was justifiable and necessary. Some serious thought needs to be given to shackles on prisoners with violent backgrounds.

Brahmabull
sandy, ut

Somebody that violent and that out of control will always be a danger to society, and whether he spent his life in prison or not doesn't matter as long as he can't continue to be a menace to society.

JBQ
Saint Louis, MO

I agree with the comment of "Strider303" and not so much with that of "Cats".

wazzup
Cottonwood Heights, UT

So he was locked up in supermax and agitated but it would have been in appropriate to put shackles on him? Help me make sense of that nonsense.

Western Rover
Herriman, UT

I don't understand the judge: "Given what this jury has just experienced, I cannot see that we could go forward and give Mr. Angilau a fair trial on these charges."

If Angilau had been slipped some kind of drug without his knowledge that made him do something totally out of character for him, that might be true. But his action in court showed the jury exactly how he chooses to deal with a situation not to his liking. I can't think of a fairer trial of Angilau's character than that.

wazzup
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I would love to see the entire transcript which was the title of the story

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Let me get this straight... his lawyers are blaming this on him not getting his shower???

I mean I knew lawyers could suspend reality... but I never knew they could go this far in looking but not seeing the obvious.

You don't attack someone because you're "uncomfortable"...

1978
Salt Lake City, UT

Strider 303 has an outstanding post and sums up my feelings as well.

The real hero in this case is the fast acting law enforcement officers who prevented this violent man from hurting more innocent people.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

I agree with Cats -

it IS tragic

his poor choices DID lead to tragedy

Why do we hate his family so that we cannot offer our condolences?

Nothing cats said condoned or excused his behavior. I guess some of us don't like seeing that bad choices lead to bad consequences.

I AM glad he will no longer pose a threat to anyone, but we need not hate on his family and not recognize the overall nature of the events.

birdbath
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

If I didn't get to shower the first (?) day of my federal jury trial, I would be very unhappy. Perhaps not attack someone unhappy, but very, very, very unhappy. Requesting a shower doesn't simply help the defendant, it helps everyone involved. It's not like he was requesting a tux.

Major Tom
Centerville, UT

I'm sick of hearing about fatal shootings from an officer. Maybe we just don't hear about the non-shoot-to-kill stories. Why are there not alternative methods used of subduing someone? Batons, aerosols, tasers? He didn't have a weapon. Does it HAVE to be three shots to the chest every time? If known for violence, in a bad mood, and bringing in an already contentious witness, why was he not already cuffed and restrained? A packed courtroom with bullets flying can be extremely dangerous to everyone, is it worth that risk? Yes he is a violent criminal, he needs to pay for his crimes, and though quite provoked, this man didn't deserve to be "fatally" shot. Maybe this was a higher risk situation than what I can glean from the article, but can't these situations be handled with the same success of subduement but without guns? Is that the only way officers are trained? ALWAYS shoot to kill? I'm sure it's not, it just seems that way. From looking at other comments, I'm probably not in the popular camp here, so "fire away" repliers. Just don't aim for my chest...

ajweston
Murray, UT

One thing to remember is it it often argued by the defense that the site of a defendant in shackles can impose thoughts and feelings in the jury. Because we're "trying" to have a innocent until proven guilty process, the defense will do what they can to present an upstanding member of the community. That is why he wasn't in shackles. If you're a juror and you see a defendant sitting in orange and white scrubs, with "UT DOC " in bold black letters, and draped in chains its hard not to come to your own conclusions before any evidence is even presented. Unfortunately he wasn't shackled or we would be able to see our justice system actually play out. There is an option to have the defendant present via TV but our laws allow a defendant to face their peers. Our system will never be perfect but its the best we have.

Chancey
Sandy, UT

While in hindsight, Mr. Angilau should have been restrained. However, at the point that he rose and attacked his intended victim, the situation in the court demanded quick and deadly action. Hat's off to the officer, glad there were no innocent victims here. All should be safe in a court of law. We are all summoned at times to do our duty as citizens and serve on juries. Armed marshals are not there for their looks.

Deserthiker
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

The comments from the defense attorney regarding the shower were NOT given as justification for Angilau's violence. If one will actually read the story and follow the timeline one will discover that they were given at the start of the day, before anyone could have had any idea an attack might occur. My guess is the attorney was trying to do his job: advocating for his client with the purpose of trying to see that his client got a morning shower on future days of the trial. Lawyers get plenty of criticism, some of it justified, but the comments posted here accusing them of making excuses afterward for Angilau's behavior are baseless and wrong.

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