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Published: Tuesday, April 22 2014 10:06 p.m. MDT

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I Still Can't Say It
Holladay, UT

Changing the fight school is the right thing to do to make it relevant in today's world. Sorry, "men," it ain't the early 1900s any more. Women can own land, vote, and go to college now.

It's only a few words in the song so it's not the end of the world. ASUU showed leadership and had the courage to do the right thing.

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

JoCo Ute
Grants Pass, OR

"Here's an idea for a new song for the student body government resolution. It's an old one and we all know the words. M I C K E Y M O U S E"

Maybe you're on to something.

The Oregon Ducks have already established a PAC 12 precedent of using a Disney character as a mascot; maybe Utah could be next. Since Utah has had a masculine bent for over a hundred years, using a Disney princess for the next hundred years would even the score - Pocahontas seems like a natural fit.

babyR
Salt Lake, UT

Once again there has been "much ado about nothing." Doesn't the Student Government have anything more important to do? Perhaps they should go the same way as the words to "Utah man."
Maybe this will give BYU paws (sp. intended) to think about singing "Rise and Shout, the MEN and WOMEN" are out. Are we really Cougars? Political correctness mostly is another name for plain silliness! Where oh where has common sense gone??? Oh, I know, it is dead and gone.

Clark W. Griswold
Sandy, Utah

@ TimBehrend

Oxford Dictionary defines "Man" as:

1. "A human being of either sex; a person"

2. "Human beings in general; the human race"

Dictionary dot com has a similar definition to "Man":

1. "a member of the species Homo sapiens or all the members of this species collectively, without regard to sex"

2. "the human individual as representing the species, without reference to sex; the human race; humankind"

The word "Man" sounds pretty inclusive to me. The student governments seems to be the ones stomping their feet, having a temper tantrum, and claiming discrimination over something as silly as a school fight song. There are more important issues in this world then a song.

If these women in the student government are really that offended by the word "Man". Then they need to change the name of their own gender first. After all it has the word "Man" in it....."woMAN", "woMEN", "feMALE", ect.

Leave the fight song alone!

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

Utah person...Utah person am I...

I've been walking around the house singing the above...

I'm beginning to like it...

No really...

You can dance to it...

I'd give it a 10.

UoU 1991
Park City, UT

I don't see how changing a few words in the fight song is going to destroy a hundred years of tradition?

The lyrics have obviously bothered some Utah fans for years, since there were attempted in the 80's and early 2000's to change the lyrics.

See May 25, 2006 Daily Utah Chronicle article: "Utah Man’ fight song is off-pitch for some fans"

A quote from the article: "Students, faculty, alumni and media have labeled the fight song Utah Man" as sexist, old fashioned, difficult, offensive and dated."

If the song is offensive to some, change it.

What's so wrong with "A Utah Fan Am I"?

Jeremy234
SLC, UT

Although I disagree with this initiative, I would like to know what some of the posters on here are doing to fix the more pressing problems in the world since they seem so concerned that the U's student government (seriously it's a student government!) aren't doing more to bring about world peace, end global hunger or whatever else.

phantomblade
Salt Lake City, Utah

UoU 1991

"What's so wrong with "A Utah Fan Am I"?"

It's not "manly" enough.

TheSportsAuthority
Arlington, VA

This quote, from writer Rick Reilly and published in a recent [ca. 2000] edition of Sports Illustrated, may stir some red University of Utah blood:

"I just love fight songs," Reilly elaborates. "I, however, hate Utah's: 'I'm a Utah man sir, and I live across the green. Our gang it is the jolliest that you have ever seen.' That stirs the ol' blood, eh? Can't you see the Utes' coach at halftime? 'Dadgummit, gang, we're losin' 51-7! Now get out there and get jolly!' "

Utah's fight song has been a laughing stock for years - Utah fan's have just been too blind to see it.

TroyTown
Anaheim, CA

howard s.

"Leave "man" alone... It's gender generic as in mankind."

You're spinning.

U and I and everybody else knows that "mankind" is NOT the first, second, or even tenth thing that comes to mind when "A Utah Man" is sung.

souptwins
Lindon, UT

Sports Authority-- Best post yet!! I remember reading that article but nice job on finding the reference (didn't care enough to do it myself). I always thought the song was lame and condescending and cheesy but it's not my team so never cared a whole lot either way. It just always seemed odd that a school who claimed to be so on top of all things modern wouldn't have seen a problem years ago. The irony is alarming.
IamaUtahFan--- If it wouldn't bother you to change your screen name to "man", why did you choose "fan" in the first place? And if that doesn't bother you, why should it bother anyone for the song to now be changed to fan? Just another interesting irony.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Congratulations to the ASUU. You've now ensured that the words that will be sung the loudest by the MUSS will "a Utah MAN am I!" instead of "no other gang of college men dare meet us in THE MUSS!"

Ed Grady
Idaho Falls, ID

All this Ute angst is ... funny.

ImaUteFan
West Jordan, UT

souptwins - Spoken like a true Cougar fan.

Your statement "but it's not my team so never cared a whole lot either way" yet you continue to post on articles about the Utes. Now THAT is ironic.

Big J
Bountiful, UT

How in any way, shape, or form can anyone say these two statements are offensive or divisive. What is offensive is that someone spent any time worrying about this. I certainly think Utah co-eds are the fairest and I am proud to be a Utah Man.
Go Utes!

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@mussingaround
"Since Utah has had a masculine bent for over a hundred years, using a Disney princess for the next hundred years would even the score - Pocahontas seems like a natural fit."

We'll reach a bowl, just around the riverbend.

@TheSportsAuthority
"Utah's fight song has been a laughing stock for years - Utah fan's have just been too blind to see it."

It's always reminded me of the Jolly Green Giant.

Objectified
Tooele, UT

This is a first. I truly believe it's the first time there has ever been a U of U article comment by Chris B that he hasn't found a way to blame or condemn BYU for something. Amazing and yet refreshing. There is yet hope.

If the Ute students are so bright, as the suggested song change says, then why has it taken them over a hundred years to propose this change that seems to bother or offend them so much?

I hope people on the hill realize how laughable this entire silly scenario is to the rest of the academic world. It's as if there aren't enough other more noteworthy causes needing attention in the world. This one will soon become a target of the late night TV comics if it hasn't already. As a previous comment noted, things now being done in the name of political correctness are sometimes reaching the level of absurd. This is a prime example.

It's little wonder recent college graduates are having such a hard time finding jobs. This makes it obvious that they lack sufficient real-world common sense.

Pendergast
Salt Lake City, UT

If anything s/b changed, altered, abolished, then its that ridiculous alphabetic hand gesture... save it for the thugs in Coral Gables.

Max
Upstate, NY

It's offensive only to those looking to be offended.

John Locke
Ivins, , UT

If I live to be 100, there will continue to be politically correct language changes, which will be upsetting to me, and this is one of them. As a U grad, tradition is not the same, with the Ute Tribe blackmailing the university in order to use their tribal name, and now with some supposedly "feelings hurt" young women on campus wanting to change a song that has been sung for 100 years...?

What is next, they will arrest you for not singing the new song...or only women will sing it at games?

Shouldn't they have a vote of the entire student body and the Alumni in order to make this change? Why should some council or one person have all of the votes?

Again, another example of the minorities ruling...and they take every opportunity to show that they are. And the "brightest" young women? Harvard coeds might object to that one. I can just hear it now, "They are not the prettiest, but they are the brightest...not"

Today the Utah Fight Song, next year, the Bible...and the beat goes on. When are we going to hit the brakes on stuff like this?

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