Not to be a stickler, but do you think the meant, "We need to look at how
OUR (not "are") communities develop and how we get around." ?
I'm using this quote in something, and I think I'm going to change it.
You know, for clarity. And because that's totally what he said.
@mcclark: What about the report signed by 700 scientists including the former
head of the UN Climate Change panel that debunked the UN's climate study.
If you are so intent on following the money look at the so-called scientists who
push climate change. If they didn't push these phony studies they would be
out of money.
The ability of so many to disregard many decades of research and studies that
have proven without a shadow of doubt climate change is real and human caused is
astounding. The only "scientists" who deny climate change are the same
kind as the tobacco companies used to trot out to say smoking was good for you.
Big corporations can always buy someone to say what they want with unlimited
money at their disposal. And the idea that scientists are going to make big
money pushing climate change is laughable. It is the deniers that are racking in
the bucks from their masters.
US grid, mono-crystalline silicon, emissions with an estimated lifetime of only
15 years, the emissions are 207 grams of CO2 per kilowatt-hour – just 2
times better than gas. Agreed, solar panels are still a better choice than
fossil fuels. But it becomes quite hard to describe them as a
“clean” source of fuel.In addition to the CO2 there is
large amounts of heavy metal pollution cast off from the production process.
But we won't go into the pollution of creating batteries to store the
electricity.If we consider solar panels mounted on gadgets like
laptops or mobile phones, solar energy becomes a plainly bad idea. It is better
for the environment to power a gadget with electricity generated by coal, rather
than by a solar panel.Kris De Decker Low-Tech Magazine
@Baron Scarpia:The shortsightedness of misguided environmentalists
amazes me. Do you really believe that solar panels are "zero" emission?
I'll bet you think plug-in electric cars are, too, while ignoring where the
electricity comes from.You can't ignore the energy use, water
use, mining operations, and the creation of hazardous wastes that go into
manufacturing a solar panel and the systems used to run them. And don't
ignore the energy use and hazardous waste associated with their recycling or
disposal.And I can't wait to see what you're going to do
when the first hail storm pelts your panels.
What climate change? Nothing unprecedented is happening. Temperatures are
flat. Storms are in the normal range. Climate models are wrong. This
discussion of "doing something about the climate" is nothing short of
tilting at windmills.Cleaning the air is always a wise thing to do,
but if you concentrate on a harmless non-pollutant like CO2, you're going
to miss the real pollutants (sulfur and nitrogen compounds, for example), stifle
economic well-being, waste a lot of money, and accomplish nothing for your
There is no such thing as climate change...There is no such thing as
climate change to those who have positioned themselves to profit on both sides
of that issue.
Local and state-level initiatives are moving America ahead on clean, renewable
energy, despite the dysfunction in Washington and Big Oil's and Big
Coal's efforts to derail those efforts. What people don't understand
is that when you put a solar panel on a roof, you produce energy for 25 to 40
years with zero pollution, zero fuel costs, zero water use, and at a locked-in,
stable price. Solar largely pays for itself within a decade (and
sooner in place like Hawaii and California were energy prices are significantly
higher).These panels will be still producing power for our kids and
grandkids, whereas the legacy of that precious oil and natural gas we burn today
will simply give us pollution for higher ObamaCare costs today and hotter
weather for our kids and grandkids tomorrow. Cities have a
responsibility to shield tax payers from escalating energy prices, and
investments in price-stable solar today do just that! The more our cities force
us to rely on coal and gas, taxpayers will have to pay the carbon taxes,
pollution costs, and "adders" going forward... not a good risk for the
No wonder our government (at all levels) is so messed up. We have elected
officials eager to spend tons of money "fixing" an unproven
"problem" that has been sold by hysteria and hype, not actual
science.Lemmings act in this manner, but elected officials should
Most politics are local and most social change takes places in homes,
neighborhoods, towns and cities long before our State and National goverments do
anything. Solar power is on the precipice of going mainstream. Many analyst
predict 25% of residental power will be sourced by solar within 12 years. Oil
and utility companies are pushing back enticing goverments to place surcharges
on solar use. Kudos to elected leaders who encourage more clean energy power.
Really - don't our mayors have enough to do without getting involved in
national issues. Time for people of integrity in County and State government.
How can we persuade Mark Crockett back into the political arena?
Good thing Mayor Becker is championing Global Warming on a 70* day in April
2014.........Reminds me of the good ol' days when Mayor Wilson was
championing Global Cooling on a 70* day back in 1974!