Yah... there's a difference. If you are there on a business
trip or vacation, you don't have to register you are staying in hotel xyz.
But you are on a different type of visa, and you are only there for a few
weeks.If you plan to live there for a few years... it's
different. Where I served you have to have documentation that you are clergy
(and carry it with you at all times), and documentation stating you are there on
church business (and won't be taking anybody's job). Prove you have
a place to live, and the means to support yourself.It's not
"wrong". It's just their way of keeping tabs on long term
non-citizens living in their country.
2Bits.... understood. I have not done business in the Ukraine but in a few of
its neighbors.... have had to get guest visa's to do my work.... but never
had to register in each city. Per my son, most visitors don't need to
register in the cities... but since they were working clergy, they did have to -
what ever that means.On my mission, I never had to register
anywhere. But I really don't see the harm in having long term visitors to
our country register s the localities they setup home in.
UtahBlueDevil,I don't know if it's "Wrong" to have to
register in each city if you are there on a mission.I had to visit
the police station and register in each city when I was transferred in Japan.
I didn't see it as "wrong". It's a perfectly valid thing to
do.Many Missionaries are not citizens of the countries they serve
in. It's perfectly valid for that country to want to track where you live
and what you are doing while you are in their country.===It's not a religious thing. I was not a citizen, and they had a right
to know where I was, and what I was doing. Just as we have a right
to know who is in our country, and what they are doing. There's
a difference between requiring citizen Jews to register... and requiring
visitors to your country to register.One is calling out special
treatment for citizens of a specific religion (people who have the same rights
as any other citizen). The other is not focusing on any specific religion,
just tracking the whereabouts of visitors to their country. Perfectly valid
thing to do...
Outlandish... if you don't know how Ukraine works.. yes. But you see my
son who was a missionary in Ukraine recently had to register with the local
governments every time he changed cities. "Registering" with the local
government you see is not something new in the Ukraine.... and it is not limited
to Jews. LDS missionaries do so now.So on its face it is a little
un-nerving. But in the context that such "registrations" are common in
the Ukraine, not quite as provocative. Still wrong.... but not new or a
change in policy.
I don't think the reporter picks the photo.
Why did you post a picture of an ultra-Orthodox individual praying for this
piece. The majority of Jewry in the world are not orthodox much less
ultra-Orthodox. To me this plays to prejudicial instincts that Jews are somehow
so much different from other people.I know that Mormons, and the LDS
hierarchy, get horrified when images of the RLDS (multiple winery, 19th century
attire, and 19th century life style) are posted around as example of what a
Mormon looks like. Why is not this media outlet willing to see the
other side of that coin?