pmccombs,I was much more touched by your comments (and their
eloquent articulation) than I was by the video. I think you nailed my sentiments
precisely.Too often, when I offer a "contrasting point of
view", my LDS neighbors dismiss me as one "unworthy" to "feel
the Spirit", engaging in direct or implied ad hominem attacks - just as the
tailors set in motion in the parable of the Emperor's New Clothes."...terse slogans and sentimental videos...marketing smarm...kitsch a
little over-fitted to our own sensibilities...a commodity to be consumed in
shades of maudlin...franchise frivolity..."Well said. I could
not agree more.
I like the #BecauseofHim video because I can go to Mormon.org and "Request a
free copy of the Holy Bible". When I click on "What does the book of
Mormon teach about Jesus Christ?" It sends me to more about Jesus,
highlighted scriptures like John 3:16, What Jesus Christ means to us, and a
Bible Video App. "all other things which pertain to our religion are only
appendages to it". Since they are "only appendages" maybe they are
not needed for salvation?
It touched me deeply and I have watched it many times. We are encouraged to
share truth. It is positive and uplifting in every way.
RE: Because of him ,“The Gospel: For God so loved the world that he gave
his one and only Son, that ‘Whoever believes in him’ shall not
perish but have eternal life”(John3:16 NIV)And, through
him(Jesus) to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things
in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the *cross.(Col 1:20
NIV)But,Luke 22:44: And being in an agony He prayed more earnestly:
and his sweat was as it were great drops of ‘blood’ falling down to
the ground.The Textual Problem of Luke 22-44, “Blood”,
because of the serious doubts as to these verses’ authenticity, they have
been put in brackets and noted by Modern translations
(ESV,NASB,NIV,NET,NRSV,NLT).. Honest scholarship has nothing to hide..
Rustymommy said: "Missionary work is not just about baptisms. It is also
about sharing truth and preparing people for more truth. Those who have ears to
hear will hear."I agree. I have seen it many times. Some are not
ready for a Youtube from the Church, but they feel the spirit in things that
invite the spirit. I recently saw a wave of support from non-members
who were sharing on Facebook the commercials from a Life Insurance company in
Thailand. They were amazing! And filled with the spirit. Those, as
stated above, who 'have ears to hear' will hear the spirit speaking no
matter what ways God uses to influence and touch people--be it popular music or
commercials or Youtube videos or movies etc etc. God will have his
voice heard and he will use any and all ways to reach people, to help people
feel and recognize what the Spirit feels like and to be prepared to receive more
Many of the ultimate viewers never saw the video on UTube. For instance, I
downloaded it to my laptop so I could show a class of 12 teenagers. An hour
later it was shown in Relief Society to an audience of probably 40 women. Both
times, most people said this was their first time viewing it. The viewing
audience was probably millions more. It would be interesting to know
how many views were by people not of the LDS faith. I felt that the video spread
the message of hope through Christ without focusing on unique Mormon doctrine.
That makes it a public relations tool. It is a way to show that LDS folks are
Christians. Truth is universal and many will feel truth regardless of religious
preference. They will be inspired and implement the message in their lives and
therefore be better off even if they never any further. Missionary work is not
just about baptisms. It is also about sharing truth and preparing people for
more truth. Those who have ears to hear will hear.
This video was very moving. We all enjoyed watching it as a family and
remembering what profound truths we celebrate at Easter.
I am no master of words, but it is very limited thinking to believe there are
only a few real ways the spirit can speak to individuals and somehow this video
isn't one of them. Since many are new to the truths of the gospel, a
simple, powerful and direct format is much more effective than a format that
would be characterized as "a rougher strain." We teach children of
Christ through simple songs and then come to see their profound truths as
adults. There is nothing morally wrong with this approach. As far as
not reaching outsiders, read the comments after the video, all 600+ of them, and
count how many non mormons made positive and appreciative comments including
those not associated with organized religion, Muslims, Catholics, etc.
Moracle, you need not refer to me as "someone." I am not an abstraction.
As it turns out, "robbing" people of their good feelings is not my
intent. The expression of opinion is not a predatory act of robbery. Such an
equation is injustice, and it needs to be unlearned. You are right
about one thing, however. It is what this medium-as-message represents that I
object to, which is this: Religion as pop-culture entertainment.Stevenson once wrote that "our religions and moralities have been trimmed
to flatter us, till they are all emasculate and sentimentalized, and only please
and weaken. Truth is of a rougher strain. In the harsh face of life, faith can
read a bracing gospel." I choose not to add my voice to those of flattery
and praise here; a public forum is perhaps not the place for those who wish
merely to be pleased.
In conclusion, here is a physical description of the resurrected Christ, as seen
by those who have this beautiful gift of the Spirit in The Church of Jesus
Christ (WHQ: Monongahela, Pennsylvania):About 6 feet 1 inches in
height. Long thin fingers. A long thin face with a long thin nose. Wearing a
white robe composed of an inner and outer garment. Long shoulder length wavy
brown hair. Crystal blue eyes.
Also, the resurrected Christ would not have worn a head covering per 1st
It's amazing that no matter how beautiful and inspiring a message may be,
there is often someone who finds fault with it. Then, not content to leave it
alone, he/she feels the need to rob others of the appreciation and Spiritual
boost the message may give them, by publicly voicing their own lack of
appreciation.I sometimes wonder if it is the message they are
objecting to, or what it represents....
Gemini, I once brought some Catholic friends to see the Testaments. The actor
who portrayed the blind man was entirely in character at the point where he is
healed and sees his Savior for the first time. The scene affected me profoundly
and I could hardly contain myself. I turned to my Catholic friends only to find
them bored and unresponsive. I confess I thought poorly of them on that
occasion.Years later, I saw a man meet his lifelong inspiration, Tom
Araya, lead singer for the metal band, Slayer. A similar scene to that of Jesus
healing the blind played out before me as this devoted fan dissolved into tears
of gratitude which I could not share. I turned to my wife and said with irony,
"That man is feeling the Spirit". Then I remembered my Catholic friends,
and I felt ashamed for having judged them.Spirit? Advertisers know
how to manipulate that which their public is already conditioned to respond to.
I think McLuhan, Niel Postman, and Angus Fletcher guide my present thinking on
this matter. These concerns are my problem when I wonder if I have Truth, or if
I have tear-jerking allegories without substance.
pmccombsLet the Spirit do its job and just enjoy the brilliance and
simplicity the Gospel brings. The concerns you have are really not your
problem.YouTube is awash with the likes of Miley Cyrus obscene clips so to have
this viewed 5 million times is to offset the filth that is usually highlighted
on YouTube! I for one am pleased to see it and it was a simple, short clip to
share with friends not of our faith as a good introduction to the Savior this
I'm always concerned when religion is reduced to terse slogans and
sentimental videos on YouTube. The gospel is released into a sea of triviality
and now smacks of marketing smarm. I recall Marshall McLuhan's tired old
platitude: The medium is the message. Perhaps it is wise, by the numbers, to
sell the gospel in the same way that one might sell laundry detergent--with good
feelings and sincere faces on actors all very much in character. I find, though,
that our kitsch is a little over-fitted to our own sensibilities and not so much
to outsiders, who tend not to understand it. There is always the risk that some
of these, upon finding Truth as a commodity to be consumed in shades of maudlin
on YouTube, may mistake it for franchise frivolity and continue their search
This is great. Most people will see themselves or a loved one somewhere in this
video. I like that it connects the life of the Savior to important milestones
in History and then to modern day, as is true.
The resurrected Christ does not have a beard and moustache.
I agree 100% with dskimmer. The video was perfect and got lots of good
attention, and I also saw that many of the commenters mentioned being referred
by Carl Shay. I think that is a good lesson for future church initiatives to do
even more extensive networking with some of the popular channels out there (in
addition to paying for front page slots) in order to really get things
circulating. Maybe this first video is a good way to open the door for future
I think this is one of the best short videos the Church of Jesus Christ has put
out. Take a Look through the comments. I think Carl Shay of the Shaytards on
youtube should get credit for the volume on the video.