Re Scalman's "Jazz will sign Hayward if the price is not too high.
Hopefully, his shot will improve. Everything else about his game is
outstanding."He certainly has a multi-tool skill set and yes,
shooting can be improved some by motivated players, however, "everything
else" is NOT outstanding. E.g., he led the team in turnovers, many unforced
and many at critical times. And I wouldn't be surprised if he led the NBA
in "four point plays against" his team as a result of those, and after
clanging badly missed long shots late in games.These plays made me
tear out my hair on numerous occasions. Still, believe he can improve on this
and near the end of the season he showed a few signs, so happy enough if
he's back with a new coach and/or role definition at a fair price. However if the Celtics or someone offer him a ridic amount, and the Jazz
can make a sign and trade happen, I won't shed any tears...
Provo Boiii,Re-read my post and you will see that I never said a word
about tickets. Or my purchasing of such. In Tonga's case, he may hail
from Tonga but reside near the home court.I'm just a basketball
fan who has watched a once proud and consistent small market team, start to look
like a bad and inconsistent small market team.I was commenting on
the article...I sure hope that is allowed?
The future played together 127 minutes and Rudy sat on the bench. Is this what
Lindsey calls building for the future. Pleas..........
@rvalens2Dante Exum draws comparison to a guy named Penny
Hardaway...but...i think he relies too much on his right...for plays...the times
that i have watched him play...he always starts and ends a play with the ball on
his right side...but given the chance...i'd probably trade
burke...and...there's a chance that Dante Exum might pull off a kobe...and
simply wont sign unless the team is the Lakers@scalmani
think the reason for Hayward's efficiency dropping is being forced to do
something he isnt very good at...he is good...but not great at it...he is better
off getting his shots off screens...the guys is from indiana...he probably
watched Miller played his whole life...and during his first years with
Utah...that was his thing...he could still be a first option while coming off
screens...you just have to have creative plays to set him up...which Corbin
doesnt have...i think...@Osgrathyou are right that this
coming draft...there really isnt a sure thing...there is no Michael Jordan
here...no Hakeem Olajuwon....but the potential is there...just need better
I'm loving all these comments and the interest the Jazz will generate this
off season. I know we don't all agree with each other, but it is fun to
read everyone's input. I think we've seen Corbin enough to form
opinions and comment about his status with the Jazz. Like many fans, I like him
as a person but feel strongly we need to see a change. I don't think we
have given Lindsey nearly enough time to evaluate him and those critical of him
with just 1 season directing this team are way off base. I like the man for
making bold moves to take a team mired in mediocrity and taking a step back to
build from a foundation of young talent. But, it's going to take some
years, not months, to get things back on track. Once there I think we will see a
team of real talent that will still be young enough to compete for years to get
us back to the fight for a crown. Hang on and enjoy this ride.
Hiring Lindsey was a horrible decision. Being ok with this destruction of a
quality small town franchise isn't selling. I know fans all over idaho who
are looking for other teams of just dumping the nba all together. This season
was a disaster that will take years to recover from. I will not be a jazz fan
again until Lindsey is sacked!
I have to laugh that the "fans" who threaten not to buy tickets live in
places like Indiana and Tonga. There is no such thing as a sure
thing. Otherwise Portland would have already won a title with Greg Oden. There
will always be an element of luck (Stockton, Malone: non-lottery picks,
excellent scouting by the organization) and elements of heart that just cannot
be measured (Boozer). Anyone who is certain the Hayward is either
staying OR going lives in a dream world. Even he doesn't know yet. If they
get any one of the first four picks, the Jazz have a solid future. It may take a
few years, and excellent coaching, but the talent is there, all ready to develop
and jell. But go ahead and worry that they won't want to stay
in Utah and this talent development is going to only benefit other teams.
"The only place that fear can exist is in our thoughts of the future. It is
a product of our imagination, causing us to fear things that do not at present
and may not ever exist." Being a fan means hope springs eternal.
Jazz will sign Hayward if the price is not too high. Hopefully, his shot will
improve. Everything else about his game is outstanding. I am interested in what
the Jazz decide to do with Kanter. With Gobert's emergence, they might move
Kanter and pick up an explosive SF (especially if they miss out on Parker or
Wiggins in draft). Posters worried about Jazz next year will be pleasantly
surprised by improvement of Burke, Burks, Favors and Gobert, in my opinion.
"They have a chance to be pretty good if they continue to play
together.". Says the man who played them together 123 minutes during the
Corbin forgot to instill defense in the team this season. Does anyone think
that will change?Hayward developed into a good player but totally
un-dependable to take the team on his shoulders and make the last minute
shots...or really any shots that are meaningful.Should the Jazz
replace Hayward they better do it with a meaningful star otherwise it is
groundhog day for the team next year. The problem is Teams like the Heat arenot
looking to trade their LeBrons.Expecting a new draftee to come in
and make an impact is like looking for Santa. Kevin Durrant was not even good
his rookie season, Deron Williams sat half the season and in this years draft
therre are no players of higher caliber than those two.
Thanks for making that delicious pitcher of kool aid!! But I'm not
drinking...but the $5.00 tickets (that you have to spend advertising money to
sell) are an interesting addition to your brew!!!Burke may not be
Williams-the-younger.Lindsey might be a good asst GM on a really good team
and that's allTy may not be PopG Miller might not be L
MillerThe Jazz had one of the worst 3 records in the league, in a
small market. The worst team in the leaguejust sold...Watch out
@BYUalumThere are certainly a number of fans that post comments that are
not patient at all. With the direction the Jazz chose I don't know how
anyone could expect them to be a playoff caliber team at this point. I have felt
all along that it will take a few years to move up the ranks again but I like
the plan and look forward to see what the team does next. I think Lindsey is in
the right place at the right time and I feel the time will come that the Jazz
will be a contender. The pieces are falling into place and we've got the
rest of the league right where we want them:).
Hayward has reached a plateau with the Jazz. I believe that they should let him
go to the Celtics and possibly get value for him. I would even trade him for
the Celtics draft pick. Julius Randle should be a secret priority. He is big
time and down in the drafting order. I heard him speak and he is articulate.
Grant from Syracuse has been mentioned as a late round possibility for the Jazz.
He also is very good. Both are lefties, I believe. I believe that the Jazz
are too "right handed". David Lee is a lefty and it makes a difference
on balancing the rebounding. I believe that Tyrone Corbin should be given an
office job and a coach like Doc Rivers should be targeted. Being from St. Louis,
I would like to push for free agent status for two recruits brought in by Rick
Majerus to St. Louis University in Rob Loe (7 ft) New Zealand and the guard
Jordair Jett, the highly motivated "freight train". Both of these
players led SLU to 19 wins in a row and an upset of NC St. in the NCAA. They
deserve a look.
You mean we lost on purpose? We actually threw games so we could look better
next year - or later? Isn't that cheating? With season tickets running
between $451 and $6,622, I think I'll stay home and watch "Dancing with
the Stars." At least I can pick a winner with that one.
The only problem is many of the 'young guys' will be three or four and
gone. Hayward will not be back. NBA teams are just waiting in the wings to
over pay for Jazz trained players.
Lets definitely keep these draft picks, at least the lottery pick for
ourselves. The Jazz have been quite good at player development and we have a
chance for some special talent. Only keep Heyword if the price is right
(don't spend like a kirilenko, but I think the Jazz have learned that
lesson) Use all that cap space money for the best we can on the free
agent market or to bring in a veteran via trade. Hey, and please
don't rule out Jimmer. OK, likely not a superstar except here in Utah,
but he can shoot and he can be brought off the bench and I bet he comes fairly
cheap at this point. It beats who the Jazz have at players 8-12 (What are their
names again?) and brings some excitement. Some drama can be interesting and he
would be great for community relations and just grateful for any minutes he can
get at this point.
My Answers:Corbin's gone.Hayward is probably gone. (price
too high)Foundation stays together for at least another year, minus
Hayward.No foundation players traded unless it brings the Jazz someone
better.Give extensions to Kanter and Burks.Yes, to acquiring a
veteran scorer that can help spread the load.Jeremy Evans and Rudy Gobert
need to play more often.Don't re-sign Lucas, Jefferson, or Rush.Keep Diante Garrett.Bring in a game changing Vet? Yes, but only if it
doesn't hamstring the team's future.Who the Jazz should
pick, in order of preference.#1 Jabari Parker (6'8" SF,
renders a potential Hayward loss moot)#2 Andrew Wiggins (6'8"
SF/PF, same as above)#3 Joel Embiid (7' C, high upside)#4 Dante
Exum (6'6" PG, that can also play shooting guard)#5 Julius Randle
(6'9" PF)#6 Marcus Smart (6'4" PG, a tough, hard nosed
defender)Whom do I find the most intriguing player? Dante Exum.
Quick first step, lateral movements, and crossovers. A pass first PG with a high
upside and IQ. Quite a few NBA pundits are drooling over him. Lakers supposedly
have a man crush on Exum and want him badly, but will take Smart as a
I am confident in the fact that Lindsay is confident in this group of "young
players", but no mention of his confidence in the current coaching staff.
I just wonder how patient fans will be with all this positioning.....and losing.
Time will tell.