@ RockwellWell USC finished #1, so no Utah obviously didn't
carry the same weight. However, Utah did finish 12-0 and in the top 5 so the
Utes definitely weren't a drain on anybody's SOS
2ferAbout as illogical as Utah fans claiming that Utah 2004 carried
the same weight as USC...
@ UteanymousRanking team's SOS based on Win/Loss of opponents
means Bowling Green and Buffalo carry the same weight as Wisconsin and Nebraska.
Talk about illogical....
2ferSorry to bust your crimson bubble but your logical fallacy is
illogical:per FBSchedules dotcom2014 College Football
Strength of Schedule – NCAA MethodListed below are the
complete 2014 NCAA strength of schedule rankings with won/loss record and
winning percentage of opponents:2. Virginia – 102-54,
65.38%11. Utah – 98-59, 62.42%93. Oklahoma – 71-78,
47.65%95. Alabama – 71-79, 47.33%97. BYU – 71-81,
46.71%Who Virginia played and where Sagarin ranked Virginia's
schedule in 2013 is irrelevant, because these are the schedule rankings for
2014.Try to keep up.
I'm not real crazy about it, but if this is what BYU has to do to work
around the new mission thing, so be it.
Isn't it fun! All this speculation about the coming football season! Will
we ever learn? What happens during the 2014 season will happen and we'll
just have to wait, live through it and hope it'll be good. But so many
unplanned conditions always seem to happen. An injury here. An injury there.
Someone breaks the Honor Code. Someone just doesn't perform as predicted.
Or, someone surprises everyone with an outstanding year. It is what makes
football so interesting and why we watch the games. Bread and circus? History
repeats itself. But I do so love it!
FREDISDEAD - If these guys were getting buzz as high draft picks, then you have
to figure they would in fact be declaring for the draft. The fact that
they're jumping to the Y says to me they believe they have pro potential
but weren't feeling good about their place in the upcoming deep draft
class.So, they transfer because they didn't think they'd
get either the PT or the exposure where they were to improve their stock. So,
Bronco is using them, and they're using Bronco. Hopefully it works out in
All of these kids are looking for more playing time. The kid from Stanford and
Nebraska know they are buried behind deep, talented players. The kid from UTEP
could be a good find. The other two simply know they aren't buried behind a
bunch of talented recruits when coming to BYU.
@ Snack PACThat is a logical fallacy. SOS is not determined solely
on win-loss records because 8 wins in the SEC or Big 10 is not the same as 8
wins in the MWC or Sun Belt.According to Sagarin, Virgina played the
35th ranked SOS, and they only won 2 games. So no, I don't think Cavalier
fans should be pounding their chests about anything.
UC BallerSalt Lake City, UTI may be mistaken, because I am
relying on memory, and frankly I don't care enough to look it up, but I
believe that 1) BYU recruiting has NEVER been top 25 or even top 40; and that 2)
BYU recruiting is hanging about even with the only method to measure recruiting
- the dreaded star system.If my recollection is correct, then this
is a nice move to take advantage of two situations - scholarships with less than
the full allocation of years and talent that is immediately available.What I think is incredibly interesting is the number of young men - and
presumably young women - who are completing a 4 year degree in 4 years, while
competing at a high level of collegiate athletics. I would love a DN story on
other athletes doing the same thing, and where they are going.
October 2012: mission age lowered to 18Summer 2013: mass exodus of 18-yr
olds to mission service (many highly recruited 18-yr olds)Summer 2014:
more 18 yr olds depart on missions("one-and-done" recruits fill the
void)Summer 2015: massive return of 20 yr olds from mission service
begins although many will need a year to be ready to contribute.
2ferBased strictly on win-loss records from 2013, BYU's
schedule is ranked about the same as the schedules for Alabama and Oklahoma - if
either of those teams runs the table will you try claim that neither is
deserving of a playoff berth?btw, Virginia's schedule is ranked
2nd toughest.Like Utah fans, should Cavalier fans be beating their
chests about how tough their schedule is?
Okay. Let's say that a Portland State, Montana or another lower tier, Div I
or II team, recruits a kid who turns out to be a gifted player. Let's also
say that the kid either decides to move up to a higher quality program, decides
to serve a mission, or graduates with a 4 year degree from his first college of
choice. Then let's also say that he has a remaining year or two of
eligibility left to play Div I football. So, BYU swoops in and picks off this
kid, a la Nebraska or Stanford, or maybe even a SoCal and so forth. BYU, is then building upon an already in-place philosophy, of having
developing young players mixed in with highly mature and highly experienced, as
well as highly motivated players, who are workman-like, strong, level-headed and
steady. How could this scenario be wrong for anybody?Again, BYU
appears to be out in front, on the cutting edge of college football evolutionary
development! Go Cougs!
So I am a little confused. IF they are graduating, why are they not entering the
NFL draft? What is the point of playing another season when they have already
finished their undergrad degree????
@ UC Baller - have we heard many times that Bronco M. doesn't like going
after top qulaity players when they are 4 or 5 star. He look for players who are
dedicated on and off the field. I don't want to mentioned one player who
chosed to transfer that he didn't seem to want to work or play hard on the
field. He came to some sport bar at Salt Lake along with our local media that he
chose BYU and what did Bronco thought of that? Well, Bronco rolled his eyes and
didn't say much. Anyway, lets hope this new system work for
this year and welcome aboard to those three new (grad students) guys
The ESPN contract is the reason we are getting transfers. These guys want to go
somewhere where they can play and get maximum exposure. BYU is that place and
if it works out for the guys we have now look for more in the future. Anything
that brings in good players is a plus right now. We should go undefeated this
Utah is more interchangeable with UConn then Virginia. Both teams had their
moments with UConn coming on late to win its last three games.I
really am looking forward to the season next year. I hope the O-Line steps up
and improves. If they do BYU could beat anybody. Its going to an exciting
year with so much experience on offense.
Dealing with missions, and the honor code is a juggling act.I'm
surprised that BYU does as well as it does.
Not sure I would call it "loading up" with three. I am interested if
these one year players will really help the program. Should be a solid year
with a slightly easier schedule. Go Cougs.
Interesting trend. Think cougars should expand recruiting to top players at
other colleges. It appears that the number of players with only one year of
eligibility that want to break away from their alma mater is increasing.
Good to see Bronco make needed changes. Let's hope that many more will
follow. Clearly he will be BYU's coach for many years...if he begins to
learn from mistakes we might eventually get the program back to where he should
"this is not a patsy schedule"Yes it is."Utah and Virginia are interchangeable"Not really. BYU
did manage to lose to both, but Utah finished #34, and Virginia finished #104.
As a BYU fan I like the use of the one year players....but what it really shows
me is how bad we are at recruiting. We aren't keeping up with
Top 25 programs (no not you Utah)...the gap seems like it is widening and we are
becoming a middle of the pack team. Beat the weaker teams, and lose to top 25
teams and Utah. Can we ever have a recruiting class in the Top 40?
Or am I delusional and BYU football is fading....please help me understand.
we could have used more of these last year when the schedule was far more
formidable. But Texas, UCF, and Boise St. should be tough games and the Cougs
did lose to Virginia last year so fans should not take any wins for granted.
Good news for the Cougs…we will need all the plug and play quality players
we can get…this is not a patsy schedule. …..but, the "power
conference" jokers are not particularly scarier than any others…the
haves rule and have nots are door mats in the power conferences….looking
forward to Texas again…UCF and Boise State could be a lot more dangerous
than Cal…could be a great and challenging year. Utah and Virginia are
interchangeable…we've proven we can stub our toe if we don't pay
attention to all the games.
I think the strategy is brilliant. Not only does it bring more game experience
to the field, but it gives the newbies someone else who's got varied game
perspective to talk to. I credit this to Greg Martzen. He's the real
it's a good move, I applaud it. I think we saw where our lack of depth hurt
the team. They've certainly increased the anticipation looking ahead to