Digomart -- My thoughts exactly.Rockwell -- read the article from
last year about him and his girlfriend struggling to overcome his brain
condition. Pretty sure they weren't living together in 'BYU
approved' housing.... Quite the potty mouth too. Don't get me
wrong... I LOVED watching Jimmy Mac play -- he was incredible -- but sheesh, if
he's living with his girlfriend, having divorced his wife of many years for
who knows what reason -- then he's not following BYU's honor code and
that's a friggin' double standard.
Jim,Thanks for all the wonderful memories.LaVel, thanks for
the patience, tolerance, and love that allowedJim to be all that he could
be while at BYU and beyond.Jim, please know and understand that you
made us all proud.Know that we love you. Know that we appreciate you.As much as possible, learn to love and respect and appreciate us too.Thanks for coming back and finishing the job that you started.I can
hardly wait to see your reward, which is also our pride in having you receive
DigomartWhat evidence do you have that Jimmy Mac isn't in good
Honor Code standing with BYU?
"BYU doesn't deserve McMahon."Yes they do. At the time
BYU was a quarterback factory for the NFL and McMahon knew it. He didn't
go there for the BYU experience, he went there because he knew that BYU could
prepare him for the NFL and it did. Kudos to McMahon and BYU for making this
happen. McMahon certainly belongs in the BYU Hall of Fame.
Great news. McMahon deserves to be inducted. I'm glad BYU stuck to their
guns and am even happier that Jim came through. Go Cougars!
Good for BYU and good for McMahan. In this period of pushing for college sports
to be pro or semi-pro I appreciate BYU's stand to hold athletes to an
academic standard. Good for McMahan for doing this 35 years later
when there are lots of other things to fill his time.
Marxist - You nailed it!The thing I loved about McMahon
is how "not byu" he was, and still is!
Great news! Happy for Jim and BYU.
Thank you Jim McMahan.Thank you for finishing the job at BYU. Your
graduation will end 35 years of aggravation for me. I have not, since the
1980’s been happy about you not being in our Hall of Fame. You,Steve, Tye, Gifford and Bosco and one or two others have given us fans the
hope that someday, we may once again have somebody like you to return to us.
Thank you.I remember what you said while looking in your rear view
mirror leaving Provo for what you though would be your last time here. Now that
you have returned; Now that you will be graduating; Now that you will be our
new Hall of Fame QB; I wonder what you will be thinking of, as you look out
your real view mirror this time. Jim, we love you. We know what you will see,
it will all be good. You will know and feel our love for you and we will know
and feel the same coming from you for us.
I was a BYU student at the same time as Jimmy Mac and have been a big fan ever
since. I long hoped that BYU would find a way to get him into the hall of fame
and get his number retired and I think most of us would have been ok with an
exception being made for him. However, this is SO much better that he is
finally finishing his degree and getting in the right way. BYU has always been
about doing things the right way and this is the ultimate example of that.
Congrats to Jim and to BYU!
Jim, glad you will be a fellow alum! Proud of you for finishing the degree.
Thanks for lots of great NCAA and NFL memories. You always showed guts and
played your best. This is awesome!
Why do some have to be negative about others completing their degree later in
life? It is a great accomplishment whenever it is completed. My mom started
her degree earlier in life and after some major events getting in the way, she
finished at the age of 56! Way to go Jim!!! My mom is a real hero
for her example of finishing school and I am sure you are a real hero to your
family as well for finishing school.Oh, I enjoyed your football
Hope to get couple of tickets when Jimmy Mac gets his banner up. And I will
chear Loudly for him! Former student 79 - 84.
Way to go Jimmy Mac! I still remember that Miracle Bowl. I was laying on my
couch in New Haven. Getting sleepy and disappointed. Then wham! and Wham! and
WHAM! BYU wins!!!! People trying to get back in the stadium. Pandemonium!Well, at 2:00 AM I finally went to sleep Greatest comeback I've
ever seen. You deserve the honors.And you deserve much more credit
for coming back and getting that degree! We old time BYU fans love you dude!
Silent Lurker,Your criticism is completely unjustified. There is no
reputation of "letting athletes slide." The NCAA was critical of one
aspect of the BYUIS program for high school students and BYU made an adjustment.
BYU Independent Study is NCAA compliant. Remember that Michael Oher made the
dean's list at Ole Miss; he even graduated in four years. So BYU
Independent Study did nothing to hinder his academic potential. In fact, the
tutoring of teachers and the curriculum offered in the form of BYU independent
study were part of the recipe that turned Oher's life around. Also, Jimmy Mac did not take courses from the high school program, these are
college-level courses and the quality and rigor are excellent. I
will be so pleased to see Jim McMahon's diploma justly granted and #9
retired. He is an enormous part of the history and legacy of BYU athletics.
Good job on sticking with it and seeing it through. Congratulations!
BYU doesn't deserve McMahon.
To Silent Lurker: While attending BYU I took one correspondence course and
decided to never do that again. It was probably the most demanding course that
I ever had either at BYU or in graduate school. I seriously doubt that Jim
"answered 5 simple questions". Not from my experience. I for one am
very proud of and pleased with his accomplishment. HE DID IT!
Hmmm. The following info from the BYU page on graduation requirements:***Adherence to University Standards/Honor CodeStudents must
be in good Honor Code standing to graduate from BYU. The term
"good Honor Code standing" means that a student's conduct is
consistent with the Honor Code and the ideals and principles of The Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Excommunication, disfellowshipment, or
disaffiliation from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
automatically results in the withdrawal of the student's ecclesiastical
endorsement and the loss of good Honor Code standing. Further, a student is not
in good Honor Code standing if his or her ecclesiastical endorsement has either
lapsed or has been withdrawn, or if the Honor Code Office has placed a
"hold" on the student's records.Students who are not in
good Honor Code standing are ineligible for graduation, even if they have
otherwise completed all necessary coursework. ***So, there
must be other things besides football that stars like Jim McMahon can do that
ordinary non-compliant Mormons (and non-Mormons) cannot.
Press OnNothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will
not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and
determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has
solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.Calvin
Coolidge30th president of US (1872 - 1933) Congratulations,
Jim. We love you.
I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that Jim McMahon was
the best COLLEGE quarterback in history. Only a super human season by Marcus
Allen in 1980 kept BYU from having 2 Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks. The
day his #9 goes up will be a great day for both Jim and all BYU fans who had the
privilege to watch his amazing talents on the field.
This is an inspiration to every person who didn't complete their degree.
Thankfully, American universities give us second chances, and the new
opportunities to study and communicate using the internet make distance from the
campus less of an obstacle. When he graduates, BYU should mae his story the
focus of a new ad inviting other former students to follow his example.
Great job Jim. I believe he quarterbacked the greatest game in the history of
BYU when he did that comeback against SMU. I could hardly pick up the KSL
signal 1000 miles away, but what little I heard was exciting, but this comeback
is even greater. BYU will long remember this young man as an outstanding
quarterback and now showing some outstanding character by finishing the job...
To bad they didn't let him finish after his triumphed victory in the
Mark from MontanaOr could it possibly be that he wants to accomplish
one last great thing before his brain is completely incapable of doing something
more? Maybe it's not for fame and glory. Maybe for once in his life he
wants to do something for himself, not for his image.Food for
Oh and the Miracle Pass may be impressive - but it what is more immersive is
the 3 minutes before and his unwillingness to leave the field on fourth down
when everyone - and I mean everyone else thought that game was lost. BYU's win in that game set the tone for the next ten years. That win is
all on Jim McMahon. Other may have stepped up - but even the great LaVelle was
following this time. If you don't know the story - Lavelle had
sent the kicking team onto the field and Jim refused to go. He got the first
down and the rest of the story is BYU legend
I was in San Diego and saw the pass in the Holiday Bowl to Clay Brown. McManhon
was magical on the field - and if I had to start a QB on the All BYU team it
would be Jim. Why? Because that guy never quit fighting and but for the lame
New Mexico loss the next year he would have finished out in a major bowl.It's true BYU did not push him for the Heisman like they should
have, but I don't think the school knew how to - if they had the skills
then that they do today Jim would shave been the top candidate for that
award.Young, Bosco, Detmer all spectacular work but they stood on
the shoulder of this giant.I always thought BYU should back down and
let him in - but I may have been wrong because this victory may be one of the
best in BYU football history - the prodigal son comes home and I will be there
for the party.Welcome home Jim - you're still the best.
Props to Jim for finishing. I wonder if he had to read some small pieces and
answer five question to receive credit. BYU's independent study program has
had a reputation for letting athletes slide and receive credit for course work.
Anyone remember Michel Oher from the Blind Side? See the DN article May 25, 2010
about the NCAA banning credit for HS classes.
Our high school played in region against Roy. When I was a soph some of his
records were still in the program in basketball. He stepped up even higher at
BYU. He finally taught the Cougars how to win a Bowl. Thanks again for
everything Jim 9#
Congratulations to both BYU and Jim
Welcome Home Jim!
I was at BYU when McMahon was. I have seen a lot of good quarterbacks but none
of them left me stunned in amazement the way he did. I wish I had a dollar for
all the times my jaw dropped while asking "How did he do that?"
Congrats Jim McMahon... One of the best QBs to ever play the game and we got to
see it first hand... Proud that you wore the Blue and White Jimmy-Mac... And
there are thousands of us that are proud that you have your Bachelors from the
same school that you helped so much many years ago. Retired Jersey and Hall of
Fame, Here it comes...
Mark from Montana,The sports programs at BYU bring in revenue (thank
you football & basketball)!
Jim's miracle Hail Mary pass in the Holiday Bowl needs to be given equal TV
time as the Doug Flutie Hail Mary pass. It was much more miraculous, in my
humble opinion.Go for it Jim! You're a fierce competitor. Complete
this pass for the degree. You can definitely do it.
Jim McMahon may have been the best natural leader to ever wear the blue and
white. Congratulations to Jim and his family.
Congratulations to Jim. This will be a great outcome for him and for the
Congratulations Jim. I couldn't be happier to see you graduate and be
inducted into the BYU Hall of Fame.
Zorro - Good point. lol.
He passed for so many yards at BYU that it took him this long to finish his
stats class, trying to calculate and add it all up. Way to go Jimmy Mac!!!!!!!
Time to take your rightful place in the pantheon of legends at BYU. I hope Provo
does something worthy to commemorate your accomplishment!
Some of my fondest memories watching the Y in their glory years was when Jim was
the QB. What a great QB and player. Holy cow - I remember him just toying with
teams and throwing for 400 yards. Glad to see Jim come home and get the honor
and the friendship from Y fans.
To those that think sports should not be part of the college program, I have to
wonder how many of you actually played competitive sports in your life.
I'm sure there are some that did, and still feel that sports don't
belong as part of the campus experience, but either way, I simply have a
difficult time understanding your logic.The life lessons learned
through competitive sports quite often far exceed that which can be learned in a
lecture hall or classroom. The same line of reasoning could also be applied to
dance classes, orchestra, drama, etc. All of these types of activities are
incredibly enriching and educational. I try to be open minded about this topic,
but again, I see the logic on the other side of this argument as overwhelmingly
rudimentary.And, as long as we're on the subject of Jim
McMahon, I wish to say thank you for the example that you have set for so many
other people. Not just with finishing your degree (although that's part of
it), but just in general. Great job!
Another clutch performance!Still, the greatest ‘gamer’
of all time.As a fan of the game, still my all time favorite.This is a QB that begs the defense to blitz.Congratulations
The reason Jim McMahan is the greatest QB in BYU history is the 56 pt AVE. he
put up on Utah!
Mark from MontanaDavis County, UTFair comment, but I disagree.
I too have a degree from BYU that is largely ceremonial. University is about
so much more than just an education. The education is the foundation, not the
Congrats to Jim McMahon! Glad to see he found the proper motivation to finish!
As a life-long Cougar fan, it is a great day! So many start college and fall
short of finishing for various reasons. No one can take the degree away!
This is so cool!
Doesn't sound like he's planning on walking in the convocation but I
wish he would. He's a Communications major and my daughter will be
graduating from that dept. too. It would sure be fun to see that! Way to go,
Jim! Now, just don the cap and gown to make it official.
It is a long road from wanting to be the exception to being exceptional. I am
happy that McMahon is going the distance and getting his degree. He is very
deserving of the honor which I hope will be his soon. I kind of felt myself
drifting to the exception crowd with the talk of McMahon's concussion
issues. It is much better this way. Congratulations!
Glad to hear some good news coming from Jimbo.
Congratulations, Jim!!!!! This is awesome! I'm going to make a serious
effort to travel from the east coast to attend whatever game it is when they
hang that jersey at LES. It will be epic!!! I hope BYU blows it up big for
Jim! No matter who the opponent will be that day, I have no doubt that it will
sell out, easy.
Understand the NFL career and accomplishments don't line up for this, but
McMahon is the best QB I've ever seen -- Montana, Staubach, Elway, Marino,
Tarkenton, Brady, Manning, Young... guy could hit a dime at 80 yards.
NCAA-wise he held a bunch of records at once eclipsed that senior season by one
Marcus Allen for the Heisman and some other hardware. But he was an awesome
player and force on the field... and his legend at BYU deserves to be
commemorated as this graduation will finally allow. Congratulations.
Extremely impressed by Jim's willingness to fulfill the requirements
without asking to be an exception. Impressed with BYU for not knuckling under to
the whiners and doing what they said they would do. In this culture we need more
and more people who set and live standards for excellence.
Great Job Jim!! Congratulations, all the best to you.
Yes, call me unimpressed. So the only reason he wants to graduate is so he can
gain recognition with the HOF. I guess that is better than not doing it, but it
why I continue to say it is time to remove sports from college. Money should be
spent on educating the next generation not on sports. I would rather see
McMahon finish school as an example to youth on the importance of an education.
Good job Jim for not expecting the easy way and fulfilling the requirements
instead of expecting people to accommodate you simply because you're Jim
McMahon. Good job BYU for not creating a different standard just because he was
an awesome quarterback. This shows the rest of the world that people can raise
themselves to a standard instead of lowing the bar simply to include everyone.
Probably the best story of the month.
Congrats to a legend!
As a freshman at BYU, I loved watching Jim M. play at Cougar Stadium back in the
"Miracle Bowl" season. Now looking forward to seeing his
number prominently displayed there soon! Congratulations on
finishing up the degree!
Go Jim, I can't wait to see your # hanging from the stadium.
This is great news! Way to go Jim. All your fans have hoped for a positive
outcome to this dilemma. Looking forward to seeing #9 in the Hall of Fame.
Good on you Jim... Great job