Comments about ‘Utah Jazz win lottery tiebreaker with Boston Celtics, fourth for now’

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Published: Friday, April 18 2014 1:20 p.m. MDT

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Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

Things are going the Jazz's way. Hopefully it is harbinger of things to come!

FT
salt lake city, UT

Wow this is great news and now if they would just sign Jimmer we would be back in the playoffs.

Johnny Triumph
American Fork, UT

3 picks in the top 35, should be a solid year with a few years of continued rebuilding ahead of us. And good for the Jazz for not throwing the Minnesota game!

rvalens2
Burley, ID

Great news! It just might be the Jazz's year.

Now, trade Gordon Hayward for Boston's pick and make my day! Two lottery picks in this year's draft would be amazing!

Man in Charge
Chihuahua, 00

FT

"Wow this is great news and now if they would just sign Jimmer we would be back in the playoffs."

You must be joking.

rvalens2

"Now, trade Gordon Hayward for Boston's pick and make my day! Two lottery picks in this year's draft would be amazing!"

Can't trade a free agent.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@Man in Charge
I'm not sure if there are timeline limits on it or if this sort of thing was limited in the most recent CBA but couldn't the Jazz do a sign-and-trade?

Americanvet
Ivins, UT

@Johnny Triumph
3 draft picks in the top 35, plus Raul Neto even better!

mulrich
Columbia, SC

@Schnee

Nobody in their right mind would trade a top draft pick for a player they can sign in free agency. If we do a sign and trade with Boston for Gordon we'd probably get a second round pick, but this is unlikely to happen. If we sign Gordon to an extension we won't be able to trade him for a while due to the rules of the CBA.

rvalens2
Burley, ID

"Can't trade a free agent." Man in Charge

Hayward, however, is a Restricted Free Agent. Here is the NBA rule, which I got from their website:

"A team is allowed to re-sign their own free agent and immediately trade him to another team by adding a clause to the contract making it invalid if the player is not traded to a specific team within 48 hours. A sign-and-trade contract must be for three years or longer, and a team does not acquire the players Bird rights."

Meaning, the Jazz can re-sign Hayward and then trade him. That's what happened to Ryan Anderson, and Tyreke Evans, both of whom were restricted free agents.

Or, am I misreading this? If so, please describe how?

rvalens2
Burley, ID

@Man in Charge

As a Restricted Free Agent, as long as Gordon Hayward has not signed a qualifying offer from another team, he can sign with the Jazz and then be traded. This according to the CBAFAQ website.

If Hayward signs a qualifying offer with another team, then the jig is up. The Jazz can't sign and then trade him (without his consent) for at least one year and even if he agrees to a trade (during that time) under no circumstances can he be traded to the team that made the original qualifying offer.

So, the Jazz do have an opportunity to trade Gordon Hayward after all; however, any trade must happen before a qualifying offer comes from another team, which would happen in July.

Jazz Source
Alpine, UT

Come on!!!!! Where are the conspiracy theorists now?

Small market vs. big market (THE Storied Boston Celtics no less) and the Jazz win a coin toss against them? How is this possible? The NBA is rigged!!

Oh never mind...must be because Stern retired????? /s

You all know there would be a long stream of comments lamenting our small market and how a weighted coin was used.

The other good news is that Corbin will be out soon. Maybe we can hire someone who will actually hold players accountable to play defense.

Man in Charge
Chihuahua, 00

Boston isn't giving up their pick for Hayward. A sign and trade would be useless.

Long Lost America
Salt Lake City, UT

This is the biggest win for the Jazz this year, by far. There are basically 5 players you can't go wrong with but Parker is reportedly not for sure to declare for the draft, so right now there are only 4. Also, in most years someone from far outside the top three leapfrogs into the top 3 picks, making a good chance the Jazz will fall to #5 anyway. If this were to happen and Parker stayed in school we would still be looking at Noah Vonleh instead of Julius Randle at the #5 spot. This would be the likely worst case scenario. Vonleh will probably be a very good player but will take a feww years.

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