The IRS, the EPA, the DOJ, the BLM, the HHS and other agencies bully its
"Why did bullying increase when the federal government and wealthy business
executives started to run our schools?"Did the author pull this
observation out of the air, or does she have some basis in fact for making such
an apparently absurd statement.Bullying has been around forever.Kids often set up a Lord-of-the-flies pecking order. It's primitive
and brutal.The kind of bullying Utahns should be most concerned
about is the kind based on religion . . . Where kids belonging to the dominant
religion feel free to pick on children whose parents don't belong to that
religion.Insisting that little darlings younger than eight cannot be
held accountable only adds to the bullying problem in Utah.
Hey Mountanman -"The IRS, the EPA, the DOJ, the BLM, the HHS and
other agencies bully its citizens everyday!"Really feeling
picked on huh?Government agencies enforce the law.And
guess what Mountanman . . . Even Utahns are NOT above the law.Get
used to it.
There is enforcing the law and there is governmental bullying. The heavy-handed
methods sometimes used is an ever present problem that was recognized by the
founders of this country. But, another cause is the disrespect some people have
for others. Impolite public discourse fosters bullying. There is a lot of that
In the 1960's, I was the "nerd", and was ruthlessly bullied by the
"jocks".It's a micro-cosom of our Capitalist, dog eat
dog, King of the Mountain -- Social Economic system.It doesn't
matter who is right or wrong, smartest or brightest, or best person or product
-- but the biggest "BULLY" on the block who gets the gold.And the will take your lunch money by hook or by crook.It's
learned in a world of Me, Myself, and I.Don't believe me, try driving down I-15 and obeying the laws.It's all about
I believe kids bully others in an attempt to boost a self-esteem that is
lacking. I believe the best place to stop bullying is in the home, where loving
parents work with children to increase their self-esteem so they do not feel as
much need to do it themselves. Most people tell the world how great they are
because they get tired of waiting for the world to tell them.
School Uniforms and Standardized grooming standards would go a long way to
solve this too.When we are treated as equals, We treat others
as equals.[But then again, that's what makes me a Liberal].
GaryO. Enforce the laws? Which laws? How about Jim Crow laws in the
'50's and 60's? Just because there is a "law" that
doesn't mean it is just or that it should be enforced, like our immigration
laws for example. Thanks for the laugh!
Hey GaryO. Every dictator in the history of the planet has used the same excuse
you just gave for government bullying. Our founding fathers rejected and
disobeyed King George's tax laws and today we call them patriots! We need
more patriots in America today.
This isn't about government bullying or whether or not you're too
selfish to want to pay taxes to support your nation and societal
responsibilities. It's about bullying in schools which, as someone else
mentioned, is something of a 'lord of the flies' thing. I knew they
made us read that in school for some reason. Anyway, kids are among the meanest,
cruelest creatures there are. They'll establish their own pecking order,
and it will be done with violence. Maybe it's revenge in advance, the dumb
but strong kids attacking the nerds while somehow knowing the nerds will achieve
success in the future versus their future in fast food and construction labour.
Hutterite, Too selfish to pay my taxes? I am not one of the 47% who don't
so you are wrong. If the government can bully without consequences why worry
about bullying in schools? Just maybe its all relative!
GaryO.If Government agencies just enforce the law.. and NEVER exceed their
charter and delve in some bullying... why will the head of the IRS not answer
any questions from Congress, or fear she will incriminating herself???Why are so many people up in arms about they bullying the BLM is doing
lately?These aren't people who like law breakers. They are
Americans just like you and me, and they feel bullied by the BLM. The IRS.
The NSA. The EPA...===I don't think they are
saying that these agencies are ALWAYS involved in bullying. But that they
SOMETIMES get carried away in their power and engage in bullying citizens (some
who did nothing wrong).
@Thid BarkerVictor, IDOur founding fathers rejected and
disobeyed King George's tax laws and today we call them patriots! We need
more patriots in America today.9:10 a.m. April 18, 2014======= You realize that the Founding Fathers were not just
protesting "taxes", don't you?1. They were fighting a
Social-Economic Caste system of Haves vs. the Have-Nots.2. Being lucky
enough to be born into Nobilty was your only way out.3. They were being
heavily taxed to pay for foreign wars they had nothing to do with.and4. To add insult to injury, As "colonists", they tired of being
thrown even further under the bus by Government and Businesses as 2nd class
citizens, and not REAL Britons.It wasn't a revolution about
Taxes, it was a revolution based on ALL Citizens being made equal under
the law, and a Government of the people, and for the people.BTW-- My biggest fear is not Socialism, or Communism, Russsians or
Terroris...It's modern-day Gadiantons who have morphed
Corprations into "Citizens", and have unpresidented access to our
Politicains -- via open bribery. Today's Patriots are standing
up to Corporate Gaddianton Robbers and their Secret Combinations.
IMO the greatest teachers of bullying are in the media, listen to the night time
comedians as they pick on individuals, the butt of their jokes. Children see
and emulate the verbal and physical attacks to get the laughs of other students.
I guess you see yourself as a knight in shining armor fighting the
"modern-day Gadiantons who have morphed Corprations into
"Citizens"... It kinda seems like you're fighting windmills to
me.Corporations are NOT more dangerous to Americans than
Terrorists...===Anybody can fill in your
"Today's Patriots are standing up to....fill-in-the-blank", and
fill it in with their own cause. But in reality... YOU are no more patriotic
than anybody else. And neither are the Tea Party people who call themselves
"patriots".We're ALL just as patriotic... there...
how's that... Leftist rhetoric doesn't give you the banner
of "Patriotism" and neither does the rhetoric on the Right.====Your biggest fear may be "modern-day Gadiantons who have
morphed Corprations into "Citizens"... but I seriously think there are
bigger things out there in the world today...
Leave it to the Anti-Government types to make every article - even this
one about school bullies - into their Anti-Government, Anti-Obama
soap-box.Can we just call you Skip, as in Skip in the Record.orPete and Repeat?
I like that we're trying to find some deep psychological cause of
bullying.Bullying is caused by... bullies.If they
didn't think they could get away with it, and they didn't enjoy it,
they wouldn't do it.No school or fear of failure made them do
it. Quit making excuses for it. We should not tolerate it or try to explain it
into being OK.
As a lifelong nerd (with a bit of dork thrown in), I know all about bullies.
There were big, mean guys 50 years ago who picked on me without mercy. Not sure
what they had to do with the federal gov't, though. Seems a stretch.
Bla bla bla, liberals blame everything on conservatives.Maybe the
cause of bullying is something as simple as some people are just jerks. I have
known families that are great and would do anything for you, except that one
child that is a nightmare. The family is loving and kind, but for some reason
they have one child that is just a jerk.How do you eliminate a jerk
from the school system or any system where bullies are allowed to exist?It is funny that people blame corporations and wealthy people, when the
fact is that they have nothing to do with it. Several liberal have pointed out
that long ago when schools were controlled more locally there were bullies. The
bullies existed then and they exist now. The only difference is that now there
are new ways to be cruel.Any rise is bullying is more of a symptom
of society breaking down. Parents no longer care what their kids do. I used to
be that most parents care and would do something about a bully.Watch
the movie A Christmas Story. When Ralphie's mom calls Farkus' mom
about the cussing, you hear Farkus getting punished.
We all put a uniform on to do our daily jobs. Business men wear suits, labors
wear boots, doctors wear white jackets. Students should wear a uniform. You
are going to school to learn, put on your "work" clothes, and play part
the you are dressed for. The reality is we can't help anyone out at
home or make everyone learn at school, we can however require kids to look like
they want to be there by wearing the school uniform. Who knows it might even
RedShirtUSS Enterprise, UTRed -- Watch the Christmas Story,
you got it all twisted [surprised? not really]Ralphie calls out the
1st name that pops inot his head -- Schwartz!Besides,
Schwartz's Mom BEAT him to a pulp for no reason, it was child abuse.Are you advocating child abuse?BTW -- Bullying is something
kids learn, usually from being abused at home.
As with most human traits, the mentality that leads to bullying begins at home.
The few bullies in my school knew nothing about my grades, my parents income and
I was not a fashion statement. School uniforms do not cure the problem in
English public schools. We should teach normative behavior that is expected in a
civil society thus educating the next generation of parents. But, school
pressures and rude people cannot be legislated out of existence.
Really... I have to wear the right clothes to do the job?What's
the software developer's uniform... I'm probably out of uniform
today... I better go home early.
To "LDS Liberal" some learn to bully at home. Some kids are just a
jerk.Also, as I pointed out, this is a problem with the downfall of
society. How do your legislate that society as a whole begin to care more about
teaching their children and correcting their behavior?Tell us how do
you legislate against somebody being a jerk?
@RedShirtUSS Enterprise, UTIf you are worried about bullying,
and trying to get to the kernel of the problem -- and the break-down
of the family -- perhaps we should be addressing the #1 reason homes are
broken -- POVERTY.I'd start by increasing a Father's
earing potential to reflect the 1950's -1970's, so a woman can
stay at home and not put the family into poverty for starters...
In private schools, where kids wear uniforms, there is bullying. There has been
for beyond my lifetime. It isn't the clothes.Kids have to be
taught to be not only kind, but compassionate. They don't come with
compassion. It must be taught. Schools have very little ability to
address misbehavior of students, especially if the misbehaving student has an
IEP. The schools really aren't allowed to require minimally appropriate
behavior in order to attend. They are expected to babysit kids for a certain
number of hours a day regardless of their behavior, so parents can work, or do
what they choose, and kids rarely get sent home for misbehavior. If they do get
sent home, the parents blame the school/teacher, and often threaten to sue. Right now the culture says the school is responsible for the behavior.
The misbehaving kid needs to be the one held accountable, and his/her parents
with him/her. As long as the kid can cut-up to make the teacher and the victim
pay the price, they will continue to misbehave. That kind of power is very
To try to help combat bullying, songs can teach children about kindness and
tolerance. The song “Be a Buddy, not a Bully” can be heard on
@2 bitsI assume a software designer dresses business casual. Or writes
code in their underwear in the basement. Right?
To "LDS Liberal" and how do you legislate away poverty? Right now we
havea bout 50 years of the government legislating poverty away, yet poverty
rates remain about the same.How do you legislate that familes
don't break down?You and your ilk want government to do the
impossible. You can't force people to be good, they have to decide to be
good on their own as individuals.
@RedShirtUSS Enterprise, UTYou and your ilk want government to
do the impossible. You can't force people to be good, they have to decide
to be good on their own as individuals.8:22 a.m. April 21, 2014======== I want to see the Government regulate economic
equality.It is your "ilk" that is legislating morality.Mine is consistant with Free Agency and the Gospel because it is only about
controling money, Yours is about controling a person's free will to
choose anything EXCEPT their money.IMHO, I am consistant with the
Gospel, and you are not.
To "Open Minded Mormon" you realize that you can't have government
using thier force to make you be good at the same time you believe in Agency.
Those are two opposing ideas.Here is the funny part about your
desire to have government regulate economic equality. It doesn't work.
The more power you give government to regulate, the more power you give the
Gadiantons.I don't want to control a person's will to
choose, I want people to choose to help or not help those of lower economic
standings.If you believe in Agency, then why do you always look for
government to be the solution to society's problems? Why do you want to
force people to be good?According to the words of the Prophets, your
views are not consistant with the gospel. No opinion, just fact.