here's my 2 cents....Hayward...may not be a superstar...he is a fringe
all-star at best...we really don't have a closer in our team...and i dont
see trey burke as an all-star...should he get big bucks? No...but i still love
his game...doing a little bit of everything...the problem this year...he was
playing point forward...coaches are trying to make him create his own
shots...create shots for others...i think the latter he can do...but get his own
shot...right now...he cant...he doesnt use his step backs from college as often
in the NBA...i see Hayward as a number two guy...who gets the ball off
screens...that's where he'll be effective...would i like to see him
back? yeah sure...is he worth the big money that he commands?...No...if we get a
shot at drafting Nik Stauskas...i'd take Stauskas over Hayward's
"Once again you can't trade a free agent." -Man in ChargeNo . . . but you CAN "sign & trade" your own free agent, which is
what would happen in this (hypothetical) instance. To make the dollar amounts
work out, the Jazz would probably have to take back someone like Keith Bogans
(the equivalent of Andris Biedrins in the G.S. trade last year).
By the sounds of his exit interview I believe Gordon is gone, plus if he wanted
to be with the team he would of extended his contract last summer. Good look
Gordon, and I will be rooting for you on any team you play on except the LA
Lakers. I hope the Jazz get lucky in the Lottery and get a top 3
pick. I believe Wiggins, Exum, or Parker will be stars in the NBA and each will
come close or win a championship in their careers as the main player on their
rvalens2Once again you can't trade a free agent.
" I would like to see explored the trading of Hayward to the Celtics for
their draft choice." - JBQExcellent idea, we know they want him
badly. So, why not offer him up and pull off a trade? With the 4th and 5th picks
in the draft, the Jazz could add Dante Exum and Julius Randle to the team. They
might also be able to trade both picks and move up a couple of spots. Though
this year, because of the deep draft, I don't expect them to do that;
unless they see Jabari Parker as a potential SuperStar.Exum would
allow the Jazz to match up with the bigger point guards in the league. He would
also likely displace Garrett as the number two guy. Unfortunately, with Raul
Neto coming over next season, Garrett might end up being the odd guy out. Though
for now, the Jazz might decide to keep Neto overseas.Having Randle
at his side would make Favors more effective and give the Jazz nightmare
match-ups for other teams. I say do it Jazz management, make the trade. Hayward
for their pick and whatever else needs to happen in order to make it work.
I'm not sure what the right move is here, but it will be pretty obvious
soon: Whatever the Jazz do, that will be the wrong move.
I don't see Hayward getting a crazy offer from any team. He didn't
help his cause this year with average play. He is a slightly above average
player. Pay him average money only.
The NBA always has a few idiot GMs who are desperate to fill seats. As a result
there is always at least one dumb GM who will overpay because their other
options did not pan out and they are desperate.Hayward is not nor
will he ever be a "max" player. He is not a vocal leader and he has
proven he is not a pressure player that makes big shots or good decisions. He
had multiple games where he had huge turnovers inside of 2 minutes left. Big
problem. You want players that excel in the crunch not collapse.Trey Burke has already hit way more clutch big-time shots as a rookie than
Hayward could produce and he is in his 4th year.Hayward is a solid
role player. He is a great #2 or #3 guy since he is capable of doing other
things across the board. That being said he is not impossible to replace.Based on his exit interview response I would guess he was well-coached
by his agent to act indifferent to improve negotiating leverage. His shooting %
can't be ignored though. Ultimately the Jazz have ability to decide
Sorry I lied. He is 11 inches taller than me. Course I'd shiver going
against Muggsy Bogues too. Very little basketball talent here
@PackI think you've got it all wrong. Of course any one us
would shiver one on one with NBA talent. That is not the question though. The
question is if Hayward was going up against your team of NBA players would you
fear him? I agree with cottagecheese. Hayward would not make me shiver going up
against my favorite NBA team/players. But of course I would if I faced him.
Besides the fact that he is 8 inches taller than me.
CottageCheese, I for one would like to see you go one-on-one with Gordy and just
see how much he would make you shiver.
I ask myself this question - if Hayward was on the opposing team, would I be
worried about him tearing my team apart? No.If Hayward
was on the opposing team and had the ball for the game winning shot, would I be
worried about him making it?No.I love Hayward and think
he will have a long, successful career - but he doesn't make me shiver. So
- PLEASE DON'T OVER PAY HIM JAZZ.
The Jazz really need to look at the succesful teams in the league and decide
what their option should be based on those teams. That said I'm not sure
there is a perfect formula.Miami pays 3 guys and the drop off from
their is significant with Miller making $6M and the next guy making $4M on
down.The Thunder are essentially the same thing with
Durant/Westbrook/Ibaka making ovr $12M and Perkins making about $9M. The drop
off from there is not as drastic as Miami but is still significant.Indiana has Hibbert/West/George($16M next year) with a similiar drop off in
salary as OKC.The Clippers pay Paul/Griffith/Jordan in the $12M plus
range and the drop off is more Miami like as Paul is commanding $20M and
Griffith almost $18M next season.So the Jazz need to evaluate if a
Favors/Hayward/Burks/Burke linup is as potent as the top paid players on those
other teams or is it possible to build around 4 $10-$12M dollar players instead
of 3 $12-15M dollar players and have a better supporting cast. Right now I
think the Jazz top 3 at$12M yr just don't stack up.
The Celtics in Boston and his former college coach want him. I think
that's where he goes. I don't think that he gets any better with
Utah. He has maximum value now. I would like to see explored the trading of
Hayward to the Celtics for their draft choice.
I don't see Hayward as that superstar player. Some team like Boston will
overpay him because he would sell well in Boston. I think the jazz should let
him walk if he gets a crazy offer. He just isn't a player that can win a
game for you in the last 2 minutes.
Team general managers need to start using more common sense when it comes to how
they use their available money when signing players. There is an entire list of
potentially good players that were given way overpaid contracts, then never
panned out. AK47 is an example. But there are far worse examples. I
hope the Jazz are reasonable with their free agent signings... not too frugal
and not too extravagant. That is key in having long term success. Overpaying a
couple of good free agents gives a team some short term success, but will hurt
the team long term when they have to keep paying big bucks after their play
tapers off and their market value drops. That's exactly what happened with
Kerilinko. They Jazz were stuck with paying him twice his market value during
the 2nd half of his contract. If nothing else, the free-agent
signings this summer will be very interesting... with the Jazz having especially
deep pockets this year. And the rookie draft of which the Jazz have a couple of
first round picks (including a lottery pick), is supposed to be the best in a
decade. Very interesting indeed.
Why not bring back Stockton and Malone. Afterall, all I ever hear about from
the talk shows is Stockton and Malone and how great the team was then.
Let's give it a rest Jazz Nation. Stockton and Malone never won an NBA
crown--do something different.
It's unlikely Hayward will be with the Utah Jazz next season, someone will
be willing to overpay him. The Jazz should not keep him if it means a max
contract.I'd rather see the Jazz save that money for someone
who I think will one day soon become an All-Star . . . Alec Burks. The kid made
a huge improvement from last year. I also believe that Jeremy Evans and Rudy
Gobert have shown they have the potential to become big time contributors to the
Jazz next season.
I don't know about this at all. If you heard his exit interview on the
radio, when asked if he wanted to come back, his hesitation and first several
words certainly didn't sound like it. I'd like to see him come back
(for a fair price--whatever that is), but not if he really doesn't want to.
The exit interviews are always interesting and a bit perplexing. They remind me
of that year when John Stockton quietly announced he was retiring and I cried in
my office upon hearing it. Yah, I'm a bit of a neurotic fan, but I love it.
It drove my husband crazy today as I have been glued to the radio in every room
so I don't miss out on anything.