Published: Thursday, April 17 2014 11:55 p.m. MDT
re: ordinaryfolksPlus, consumer confidence is up, the debt is lower
than thought, and while prices are creeping up there is minimal inflation.Let see irrational righties (such as Redshirt who has as many handles
after his name as a popular CBS TV show) spin that.
We find ourselves in another election year and the democrats will do whatever it
take, even fudge the numbers to secure votes and ensure they remain in power in
order to continue their path to socialism. How nice.
@Redshirt"The government is not profiting as much from teh ACA as they
could if they got rid of the slacker clause.""If you want to
get insurance to be made cheaper without the subsidies, get rid of the mandates.
"Two things:1. The mandate is the slacker clause. Mitt
Romney himself even argued that the mandate is there so that people take
personal responsibility (the mandate in his Masscare of course).2. The
mandate is one of the things that keeps costs down because it gets the healthier
people into the system.
In 2009 the bogus cost estimate sold to us by Barack was 800 billion for
Obamacare. Today the cost is already over 2 trillion. Let's see that is
about triple the first estimate. So Obamacare is not as expensive ?? Say what??
To "Schnee" I don't mean get rid of the slacker mandate. I mean
get rid of the 2000+ mandates that insurance companies have to comply with.See "The Cost of Health Insurance Mandates in Washington" at the
Washington Policy Center website.I am saying get rid of the mandates
so that insurance costs can be brought down to a reasonable level.
Even with all this positive good coming out of the ACA, Orin Hatch starts
spewing the same lame old rhetoric this week about "Obamacare is a
disaster!" The only disaster is that he is so wrong! It's better than
anything he has presented.
To RedShirt You obviously like to comment about the ACA, more
than learn about the ACA. Just google "hmo insurance profit
limitations""The ACA requires health insurers in the
individual and small group market to spend 80 percent of their premiums (after
subtracting taxes and regulatory fees) on medical costs. The corresponding
figure for large groups is 85 percent."The point in having
insurance even with a high deductable is you will have treatment when you need
it for high cost items and won't overutilize healthcare due to an
overgenerous healthplan and probably won't go bankrupt, ruining your
credit and passing those cost along to others...ie not being a freeloader. Yes
expensive medical bills are common and if the hospital doesn't get paid,
those costs are passed onto others. This system requires more personal
Not as expensive?
To "cmsense" so you are saying that is it now cheaper to pay for the
poor 2 times, rather than once?Remember, we pay for the poor's
health insurance, then we pay again when they go to the ER for medical care.
Explain why that is a good thing?If that isn't enough, what is
the point of health insurance with a high deductable? It costs me less to have
my car get fixed after an accident than it does to get my arm put in a cast, yet
I pay 4 times as much for health insurance. The purpose of insurance is to
handle unexpected, but now we are making health insurance cost more and cover
less. Why bother with insurance since it won't cover much of what I need?
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