Published: Wednesday, April 16 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT
Good to see him finally practicing what he preaches. Interesting that before his
fame he wasn't so generous Per his tax returns. 2002: .4%. Or
less than half of one percent 2003: 1.4%2004: 1.2%Says a lot.
Can you imagine if Mitt Romney had given so little a percentage at any point?
I look forward to hearing all the Obama critics jump on this as just for show
since he knows this will all become public as opposed to Romney who gives 10%+
to charity, never mind that it's all to his church, which requires a 10%
donation to remain in good standing.Obama may (may being the
operative word here) be in over his head but he continues to demonstrate
he's a good guy. I wholeheartedly believe Romney is a good guy as well but
let's give Obama his due occasionally.
Per the title "How much does President Obama donate to his local
church?"An attempted slight perhaps?Is giving to a
"local church" better/worse/different than giving to secular charitable
organizations?Certainly, organized religions put forth the notion
that the money should be given to them. Self serving, Perhaps?
Personally, I think it's admirable to donate to causes other than religion.
Religion is nothing more than "big business", out to make tremendous
amounts of money these days. They are the ones Christ would throw out today as
@ RanchI doubt Christ would think of his church as a "big
business". After all He gave the commandment to bring your Tithes &
Offerings to the church. A Tithe meaning 10% of your increase. It just
wouldn't make sense to have a commandment, and then not expect people to
follow it.As far as other causes I agree. But, I do have a problem
when 25 cents of every dollar pays for the Administrative salaries of those
charities. Why give my money there, when I know 100% of my donation will
actually go to those in need? I think a big business typically wants a profit
margin of 25% or more, which is what secular charities pull in. Where as in my
church 100% of my donation is used to help those in need. In fact we use
volunteers that donate their time to serve and the administration also donates
their time.I'll accept that some churches operate differently,
but, for the vast majority they put far more of the resources they receive back
to the people.
I think most liberals look at charitable donations and think "Why donate,
when it can be paid as taxes instead? Isn't it government's job to
help the poor/needy/get them to vote democrat?" And they see charity and
churches as competition, and thus, try to stamp out charitable works and
especially churches. Especially Christian churches, since a good Christian
really has little need of government--he or she governs themselves.Which is against the law in liberal utopia--just look at poor Julia, the ideal
Democrat woman. With no husband, and married to the state, pretty much.
@OtisBDriftwoodRomney did provide his tax returns silly. In the 2010 and
2011 years, he donated $7 million to charity, of which about $4 million was to
Liberal Ted said: "I doubt Christ would think of his church as a "big
business". Not only would he not recognize any church as his,
even the ones with his name on them, they would not recognize him and throw him
out for heresy the moment he began to speak.A religion has a
scripture about giving money to the keepers of the scriptures, how
...predictable."Where as in my church 100% of my donation is
used to help those in need." how would you know?, churches don't have
to disclose their accounting, and don't. Faith I guess is good enough for
Happy Valley HereticThe LDS church does disclose how it uses tithes
and offerings. Now you may think they are lying, but then that is your problem,
Corporate organized 501c tax exempt religions and their churches are self
serving political business, Their clergy and favored hierarchy are well
compensated and bask in the profits and power of the business of religion.
Comparing Obama's donations to Romney's makes no sense since
Obama's best year would be small potatoes for Mitt. The only thing they
have in common was that they were candidates for the same elective office. I
also think they are both good individuals in this respect.
Well it makes sense, .3%:10% is a similar ratio to Obama showing up to church 2
out of 52 weeks. (Heh, I think you're all slipping if I'm the one who
had to come up with that one).
@happy2bhereThe LDS Church has not publicly disclosed its financial
statements in the United States since 1959. The church does disclose its
financials in the United Kingdom and Canada where it is required to do so by
law. Sorry it's not about my faith, I prefer facts.How can he be destroying religion and donating to it at the same time?
Re:Otis"JP...Romney only provided a tax return because by not doing so
was hurting him politically. I actually respected him for holding back on
it....he obviously took a lot of criticism for not providing it initially, but
even further criticism because of the amounts of money he donated to the LDS
Church. It was a Catch 22 for him."Romney received flack for not
releasing several years of his tax returns as other presidents/candidates have.
When he did, it revealed he paid an effective tax rate equal to the average
American on an exponentially higher income, as well as a Swiss bank acct. In
fact one one year he didn't take the full deduction for charitable
contributions in order to inflate the tax rate.The LDS Church does
not publically disclose its financial statements. One would think they could at
least disclose yearly fast offerings and humanitarian financial statements as
many charities do.
@Mark B-Obama has spent $7 Trillion. That isn't small potatoes
to someone like Mitt. That's not even small potatoes for the government.The only thing we have to show for it is, well nothing. Unemployment is
still high, GM knowingly built cars that killed people and we still lost
billions. The green energy revolution that was going to end oil, still is
nowhere to be seen. The infrastructure of shovel ready projects are no where.
The transparent presidency is missing. Gitmo is open for business. We're
still in Afghanistan, Iraq and we added more African countries to fight. Obama
has traveled more and spent more on his vacations than most other presidents.
The obummers live rent free in the White House. Travel on our dime. Party on our
dime. Vacation on our dime. And still made $500,000. Of which he paid just 20%
in taxes. He's wealthy enough, he could afford to pay 60% in taxes and
still make 2-3 times or more than most households.
@Liberal TedSo owning a TV Station, Newspaper, radio stations, farms,
malls, universities, restaurants, a Hawaiian theme park and book stores
isn't big business?
"Why give my money there, when I know 100% of my donation will actually go
to those in need?"So, 100% of tithing to the LDS church
"goes to those in need?"I commend the LDS church for its
charity. They do much better than many. But I dont consider paying the
electric bill as charity to those in need. There is certainly overhead in any
charitable endeavor. I would have to think that much less than 75%
of LDS tithes actually go to feed or clothe the poor, sick or hungry.Sincerely. Think about what Jesus might say upon seeing some of the large
religions churches and temples. Wouldn't his teachings suggest that he
might say "very nice, but the money could have been much better
spent. Why the need for such opulence?"
"Where as in my church 100% of my donation is used to help those in
need."NO! It doesn't! You know that 10% that you pay in
addition to the church humanitarian causes you donate to? That is where
administrative costs come from. The Church is not more efficient than most
charities, nor are they equipped to deal with many development issues. That is
why they partner with organizations that can effectively deal with certain
As Ted should have known, my comparison between Obama and Romney was strictly on
the basis of personal finances. Obama and family have not had government
largesse that hasn't been available to other presidents, which Ted also
@worf 11:26 a.m. April 16, 2014How much taxes did Obama pay on the
hundreds of millions taken from the American people for vacations, and gifts for
Michelle?---------------------Since the President
personally paid for the gifts to his wife, and the President and First Lady
personally paid for their vacations, your comment has no merit.
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