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Published: Monday, April 14 2014 1:25 p.m. MDT

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The Scientist
Provo, UT

"...it’s a reminder about what the religious celebration means to society. ...Passover is a nod to how the impossible becomes possible as it shows believers how sacrificing and listening to God’s will can yield positive results."

Nonsense. In researching their book "American Grace," authors Putnam and Campbell found that over HALF of all American Jews do not even believe in a god. For such, Passover is a reminder of emancipation from oppression.

Judaism and Atheism are not contradictory. The tradition of Judaism to question God from top to bottom. Unlike Christianity and Islam, Judaism is not dogmatic (no creeds or articles of faith to adhere to), so atheists can be open about their lack of belief and still belong to a synagogue.

Jonathan Sarna, professor of American Jewish history at Brandeis University, points out that "An individual who attends synagogue, participates in Jewish communal affairs, and contributes heavily to Jewish charities would undoubtedly be considered a very fine Jew, without asking questions about whether or not that person believed in God."

Rabbis and their congregations welcome the doubters and the skeptics.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Science has explained the phases of the moon, and eclipses.

donn
layton, UT

RE: The Scientist, “Passover is a nod to how the impossible becomes possible as it shows believers how sacrificing and listening to God’s will can yield positive results."

“One of the most significant Jewish holidays, Passover, or Pesach in Hebrew, recalls and rejoices over the Israelites' redemption from slavery in Egypt. The symbolic elements of the feast cause us not only to look back and remember what the Lord did for our people in the past; they also foreshadow a greater redemption through Jesus, the Passover Lamb. Jewish people around the world have celebrated Passover for thousands of years; however, “Most do not understand” the ultimate significance of the festival.“ Jews for Jesus

Jesus is the fulfillment of the Passover. He is the Lamb of God, sacrificed to set us free from bondage to sin. (John 1:29; Psalm 22; Isaiah 53) His blood covers and protects us, and his body was broken to free us from eternal death. (1 Corinthians 5:7) Christians

A Scientist
Provo, UT

donn,

Nice fairy tales. But that's all they are. There is more spiritual and eternal significance in the Easter Bunny and a pack of Peeps than in ancient fables.

sj
Spanish Fork, UT

Donn.. well said.

Ett
Salt Lake City, UT

Ah yes, much more sensible to mock spirituality. It makes accepting that everything came from nothing easier to swallow. Of course, don't ask how nothing became everything. They'll tell you it was from a "singularity" for which they also has no explanation of its origin.

Physics27
Cedar City, UT

@ A scientist
Please stop mocking others' beliefs. They can believe what they want and it does no good for you to tell them how ignorant they are. I happen to believe in a loving God even though I have studied science much of my life. Science has not really proven anything to me about the existence or lack of God. Look at the spiritual side of things some time (or once again). You'll be surprised what it can do for you.

Dennis
Harwich, MA

@ A Scientist.......well done, well said. As society continues to believe fairy tales, myth and fictional stories it constantly proves than mankind has advanced much since Zeus and Hercules.

A Scientist
Provo, UT

Physics27,

I am not mocking anyone's beliefs, I am merely sharing my own beliefs, which have been and continue to be "mocked" by believers in everything from comments to correspondence to conference talks. If religious beliefs can stand the test, their advocates have nothing to fear.

I have spent thirty years studying and putting "Moroni's Challenge" (among others) to the test. Religion has completely failed to deliver on its promises. Promises such as you make: "You'll be surprised what it can do for you" - not at all! over thirty years, my experience has been that the Emperor of the Universe has no clothes.

Contrary to the assertion of this article, Passover is not primarily a religious celebration that "shows believers how sacrificing and listening to God's will can yield positive results." The dogmatic obedience meme is just not a significant part of Judaism, much less Passover, especially for the secular half of Jews.

When I read comments like yours and donn's, I wonder if Christians actually read the Seder? It is truly mocking others beliefs to say Passover has anything to do with Jesus, just as it is to make disparaging remarks about science.

hockeymom
Highland, UT

It seems to me, if you believe in Christianity, you also believe in the validity of other religions. Christ was a Jew, therefor, Christians have every right, even obligation to understand Judaism. It's the original religion, which all other religions, even Christianity shoot off from. In fact, if I weren't a 'Utah Christian", I'd probably be a Jew.... or a Southern Baptist.... their Sunday services are fun!

Trainman
Ivins, UT

Easter, the other half of the Christmas Story.

PLM
Kaysville, UT

What a beautiful gift at the beginning of Passover, a heavenly reminder that the Angel of Death would "stand down" for the humbly obedient. There are no coincidences.

donn
layton, UT

@ A Scientist, The original celebration centered around the Passover lamb, which was sacrificed and its blood put over the doorposts as a sign of faith, so that the Lord passed over the houses of the Jews during the last plague on the Egyptians - killing the “firstborn”.

The N. T. says that Jesus is our sacrificial Lamb. The Passover lamb was to be a "male without defect," the same description given to Jesus. When the lamb was roasted and eaten, none of its bones were to be broken.

This fact was also prophesized for the Messiah, whose bones were not to be broken. It was customary during crucifixion to break the leg bones of the person after a few hours in order to hasten their death. The only way a person could breath when hanging on a cross was to push up with his legs, which was very exhausting. By breaking the legs, death followed soon by asphyxiation. However, in the case of Jesus, they broke the legs of the other two men, but did not break His, since He was already dead.

Let it Go!
Omaha, NE

That would be cool if the end of the world began today. Nothing like 2012, but more gradual...

SarahChristina
Portland, OR

If this is what this paper writes about, you're not helping your readers to prepare spiritually for the coming of Jesus. A HUGE and very important event was left out about Pesach. The exodus out of Egypt was NOT the only important event. Nowhere in this article mentions that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ had been prepared and SACRIFICED at this APPOINTED time so that we could be saved. Rather than mentioning Jesus, this paper has the mitigated gall to mention easter, which is nothing more than a satanic holiday which churches engage in and attach to our Loving Christ. On top of that, you bring down the hope and the faithful who watch everyday for our Lord's coming by using Water's quote that people should "just start focusing on other things besides the end times." We are TRULY in the end times and should be fostering love and anticipation with each other for His appointed arrival as well as studying the WORD of God and not the book of mormon.

JBQ
Saint Louis, MO

Christ celebrated Passover, All of His acquaintances were of the Jewish faith. In the "Sermon on the Mount", He proclaimed that He came not to destroy the old law but to fulfill it.

Dennis
Harwich, MA

@SarahChristina.....the "Exodus" never happened. It was a story in the Old Testament written by the Hebrews to "teach", not report history.

hockeymom
Highland, UT

@ Sarah Christina - with all due respect, the Book of Mormon IS the word of God, every bit as much as the Bible. The entire thing speaks of Him, from beginning to end, before, during and after his mortal ministry. I challenge you to read it, you'll see the Savior all through it.

You are absolutely right - we ARE in the last days. We do need to prepare for His second coming. Part of that preparation includes focusing on "other" things, like our personal relationship with Him, loving our neighbor and doing good to all those around us. I have no idea when He will come again - not even He does - as He'll come when His Father is ready to send Him again - like a "theif in the night". It seems to me a little futile to literally watch for that daily, and maybe what the author meant was we should focus on improving our spiritual selves and those around us, which is what will prepare us for his return. If we are on the right path, we will be as prepared as we need to be.

Dennis
Harwich, MA

We've been in the "last" days for 200 years according to every generation of the Church.

Brahmabull
sandy, ut

hockeymom

The Book of Mormon is not the word of god, it is the Word of Joseph Smith. The last days is such a convoluted term because many have claimed they are in the "last days"... What does that mean? The last 100, the last 500, the last 1,000, or the last 10,000? Last days is a term people use to instill fear in others to get them to obey.

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