@Wastintime"I agree with the letter writer. It's amusing
that responders bring up Asian cultures because historically they have been the
least creative (and productive) innovators."------------I
agree. We DON'T want our kids to be like the Asians. Nothing against them,
but we are different, and the creative/innovative culture in the USA is what has
caused our economy to excel. When high school kids have too much homework, they
will sacrifice their creative/artistic side for more of a robotic approach to
life. We need good hard work, but we also need balance. Besides, I would like to
see more high school kids have time for a part time job. Too much homework will
make the kids one-dimensional.The letter writer has a good point.A few hours of homework a night is fine. No more, unless they choose it.
It is a challenge. You can do hard things. Best Wishes to you young lady.
To "Annie" it sounds like you are overloaded. It would be great if you
told us what classes you have. Either you have too many difficult classes, or
else you are not understanding the material well and can manipulate your
teachers into giving you good grades.If you don't want all of
that homework, you can enroll in the Electronic Highschool. If that is like
other Homeschool programs, you will be able to do an entire day's school
work in about 6 to 7 hours.
Once one of my kids in elementary school was given a 30 step project which would
have required about 12 hours of my time to help my son do it. It was supposed to
be a joint project between parent and child. I saw this project as busy work
where no discernable skills or knowledge was learned. I told my son to not do
it, that it was a waste of time.
I don't think most of us get it. Annie is working plenty hard, we, or most
of us, worked pretty hard in school in the good old days. I think Annie is just
passionate enough to question whether this hard work is of value. I think that
is a fair thing to ask. If Annie thought she was learning anything of value or
more things of value, she probably wouldn't be frustrated by would think
what she was doing truly valuable and interesting.
Success in life is not granted, it is achieved with effort. National statistics
about the hours young people spend in video gaming, TV, texting, Facebook, etc
suggest that there is too much free time.
Education is not ramming lot of information through your brain. When will
society learn this? The ability to discern, to think, to create - that is
education.Then the facts become useful. Then one can discern facts from
conjectures, hypotheses, and theories. The last two items are unavoidable, but
need to be kept in balance in our thinking. Creativity is the womb of knowledge.
Read "the Creative Process" by Brewster Ghiselin ( a poet and late
Professor at the U ).Also, read "How to solve it" by George Polya. True
thinking requires the brain to percolate, not to be force-fed.
@my_two_cents_worth"Different teachers, different standards I
guess."*shrugs* I guess. With my set of AP classes when I was in
high school I was rarely spending more than 2 hours a night on homework.
Yes collages are famous for that, making them all the more beautiful.
What Annie is finding out is that most of the older adults have no empathy and
are miserable in their own lives. Don't expect anything better Annie,
this is as good as it gets...
If you go to collage, you'll see the same stuff all over again. Don't
worry be happy.
And we wonder why Americans are falling behind globally.
If your teachers were paid better... you probably wouldn't have as much
home-work. They just aren't getting paid enough to teach it all in
class.Just kidding... it just seems like the answer to every
education issue is... more money, More Money, MORE MONEY...===I think it's good you get to bring some work home. Shows your
parents you are working hard on your education.I would take a
student who works harder over a smart lazy one any day of the week. So keep
working hard. Hard work can make up for any disadvantage you may have. Same
goes in life after school.I'm glad you have an after school job
too... that teaches you why you are going to school (so you don't have to
do THAT job the rest of your life). The worse the job the better... the more
it motivates you to really study so you never have to do that job again. And
you get used to working hard (which is what you will be doing the rest of your
life). Just hopefully doing something you like better than what you are doing
I agree with the letter writer. It's amusing that responders bring up Asian
cultures because historically they have been the least creative (and productive)
innovators. It pains me to see some of the schools in our country following
that example. My sons attended top-ranked high schools in Pennsylvania and
California and had nowhere near the kind of homework the writer is complaining
about. They all spent significant time computer gaming and engaging and other
creative activities. They all got great college educations (the youngest is now
a junior in electrical and computer engineering at UC Berkeley) and the older
ones are gainfully productive adults (in engineering and IT). The letter writer
has a good point; high schools run the risk of drumming out all creativity when
they occupy 100% of their students' free time with busywork.
There definitely needs to be a strenuous exercise to allow for intellectual
growth, but I tend to agree with the letter writer. The amount of homework
assigned to students these days is staggering, preventing time for other
wholesome and needed activities. As I have spent the past 5+ years working
closely with high schoolers, I have often thought the schools were overburdening
them. There are lazy ones, who don't really buckle down, but those that do
end up spending ALL their time doing schoolwork. I have a masters degree in
Elec. Eng. I know how much work it is to learn. But having the kids to simply
complete assignments is not helping them learn. Teaching them does. It does
not take 2 hours out of class for every hour in class to teach high school
curriculum (it averaged 3 hrs for me). 15-20 hrs of work outside of class would
be more appropriate, allowing the students to learn to balance their lives and
participate in other activities, such as church, youth groups, athletics and so
forth. Giving them endless amounts of "busywork" is only going to cause
increased anxiety and depression, something I am seeing at epidemic levels.
No one over 30 or who has lived in a foreign country feels sorry for you. Hard
work is good for you, and later you'll be glad you had the opportunity.
Gee, I yearn for the days I only had to worry about homework. Thanks to
teachers who prepared me for the monotony of day to day life with homework
assignments. If only I could go back and do it again.
@Schnee,My youngest is a high school junior taking three AP course
plus pre-calc. On an easy night he's in bed by 11:00 PM and this is pretty
much the norm for Sunday through Thursday.He has little TV time and we allow no
video game time at all during the school week. Saturday is the one day we have
set aside as homework free for family outings and such. My oldest experienced
the same when he was in high school but the middle kid hardly ever had that much
homework. Different teachers, different standards I guess.
I honestly do not believe the claims about amount of homework. Mostly because
there's no way a teacher, let alone 8, would want to grade that much.
Probably half of these assignments are "read 4-6 pages in _____
textbook" before each class (history, science, English).
Yeah, I didn't think you'd get much sympathy for that one. Wait till
you see what reports the boss wants you to do. In my case, quite often from a
crowded room in a man camp, or a truck seat, or a quiet table in a bar somewhere
if you can find internet. Or from home, on a day off.
Oh, poor baby. Here is some perspective:My Korean
Spouse, when she was in school, had to first find the money for her uniforms and
books then began her school day with a one hour walk (there were no school buses
and public transportation was too expensive).Classes were heated
with Charcoal and the students were responsible for keeping the fire stoked.Class lasted 8 hours and at the end of the school day the students then
spent an hour or so cleaning the classrooms and the bathrooms.Homework was not done at home--kids stayed and did it in the school.For those that had the money, there was private tutoring to ensure the
students passed the tests needed to move to the next grade--forget about college
entrance exams.Spring break? Ha. They did get time twice a year to
help plant the rice crops and then again at the harvest. They also got the
occasional national holiday but those days were spent in study because to take
time to catch a movie or go out dancing led to expulsion from school. Suck it up.
Annie,In college... be prepared for at least 2 hours of home work for each
hour in class. That was the expectation when I was in college.Maybe they're trying to get you prepared for this...====I served a mission in Japan. For Jr High and High School students
school was only the start of their day. When they got out of school... they
would go directly to study groups, academic/cultural clubs, extra classes,
meetings with tutors, etc... till late in the evening.I don't
think that's a good thing, but people keep saying we're falling behind
other countries that DO expect this... so maybe we need to adjust OUR
expectations.===I feel for you thought. I think there
is more to life than work and school.
But you just got back from a week long vacation, Spring Break.Before
that, you had a 2 week long vacation, Christmas Break.Before that,
you had a week long vacation for Thanksgiving.And now, in 1.5
months, you'll have a 3 month long vacation.Welcome to the real
world!No where else are students given 4 months off from
studying.Stop complaining. Less video games and sports and more
studying. It's time for American students to join the rest of the
industrialized world and to actually become prepared for the real world.
In most industrialized countries, students enter school at 8 and don't
leave until 12 hours later.And their schedules aren't filled
with fluff, like home ec, auto, or foods. Sports? That's a club thing that
you do outside of school.Enlightening, isn't it?As
for your griping about homework and missing just 1 day hurts, good! That's
the way it should be! Welcome to the real world! If I miss 1 day of work,
it's awfully difficult to make up. Don't want to be over
burdened during the school year? Then don't miss class eating out with
friends or going on a 2 week cruise in the middle of the semester. Also, it
wouldn't hurt if you didn't play video games until 4am.