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  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    April 17, 2014 6:49 a.m.

    @DSB 9:08 p.m. April 15, 2014

    What is human life? Is it the physical body, or is it the spirit that inhabits the body and motivates it? To me (as confirmed by the sealing requirements of my church) human life is the presence of a human spirit in the body, which enters the body at birth and leaves the body at death regardless whether there is a body with operating biological functions at other times (i.e., during gestation and when the body functions after there is brain death). Without the presence of the human spirit, a body is just a physical construct and is not "human life." A full term human fetus is a body waiting for a human spirit to take up residence, shown by there being a birth and the breath of life being drawn. That is accepting reality, not being "without natural affection."

  • DSB Cedar Hills, UT
    April 15, 2014 9:08 p.m.

    Thank you Sharrona for that beautiful verse. While we're using scriptures, I think anyone who considers that a full term unborn baby is not a human life suffers from the condition described by Paul to Timothy as "without natural affection." From such turn away.

  • sharrona layton, UT
    April 15, 2014 5:19 p.m.

    LDS Liberal: The Bible disagrees with you.

    “ You made all the delicate, inner parts of my body and knit me together in my mother’s womb. Thank you for making me so wonderfully complex! Your workmanship is marvelous—how well I know it. You watched me as I was being formed in utter seclusion, as I was woven together in the dark of the womb. You saw me before I was born You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was recorded in your book. Every moment was laid out before a single day had passed.”(Psalm 139: 13-16 NLT).

    the spirit shall return unto God who gave it (Ecl 12:7

  • RG Buena Vista, VA
    April 15, 2014 12:09 p.m.

    to LDS liberal:
    I will agree that abortion, especially in the case where the fetus would not be viable outside the womb, is not quite as bad as regular murder. But it is still bad. D&C 59:6 says "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. Thou shalt not steal; neither commit adultery, nor kill, nor do anything like unto it." I think abortion is "anything like unto it."

    Having said that, there may be legitimate reasons for abortion, especially the life of the mother. Even in cases of rape or incest, which might be a reason for it, it should be done only after much thought and soul searching. BTW we had a pregnancy 4 years ago that we knew wasn't going to end well; the baby might miscarry, might die shortly after birth, or might die early in childhood, and would be disabled. The drs. offered abortion to us, we said no, and our baby lived 2 days. But, now she is ours forever. We are so glad we had her that short time.

  • Bob Pomeroy Bisbee, AZ
    April 15, 2014 11:05 a.m.

    If she could hide the corpses, so could someone else. wait for the dna results

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    April 15, 2014 10:40 a.m.

    @RG
    Buena Vista, VA

    "Breath of Life"

    BTW --
    The LDS Church allows abortions for;
    Rape, Incest, Life of Woman, viability of the fetus...

    How can it possilbe be MURDER, if the LDS allows for it under certain cicumstances?
    Are you implying the LDS Church condones murder?

    I disagree with you, and many others.

  • RG Buena Vista, VA
    April 15, 2014 9:30 a.m.

    To dmcvey: “legal and safe abortion” Safe for whom? Certainly not safe for the baby. Legal? OK, it is legal. Slavery was once legal in the US and is still legal in other parts of the world. Does this make it right? Prostitution is also legal in places. But not right.

    To airnaut: “Abortion is the terminaltion of a pregnancy before viability of the fetus in all 50 States.” Actually many late term abortions, some of which are legal, occur AFTER viability of the fetus.

    to Open Minded Mormon: to be more precise, we do only child to parent sealing for those born and then die. We do NOT do any other temple work for them. They do not need baptism nor endowment. Also, I agree with LetsDebate's comments about your comment.

  • Gwen54 San Diego, CA
    April 15, 2014 8:42 a.m.

    No that it matters, but I was wondering if she was ever a member of the church? I am horrified by this story and it breaks my heart. That poor family! I also wonder how the husband was not aware of ALL of these pregnancies that went to full term. It'll be interesting to see if he truly was the father of all of them after the DNA results come back.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    April 15, 2014 7:09 a.m.

    This story has nothing to do with abortion.

    Abortion is not murder. Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy, where the only thing terminated is a body-under-construction which will house a human spirit when the pregnancy is completed and that spirit enters the body at birth and becomes a baby. Aborftion is wrong, and selfish in that it denies a waiting spirit a body that spirit would inhabit during his/her mortal life. Abortion does not, however, terminate a human life.

    This case is murder, pure and simple. Living, breathing human beings were killed. The woman admits she killed her living babies shortly after their live births. That is unconscionable, especially when the Safe Haven law gave her a resource where she should place the babies with no liability to her. I hope she receives the full penalty of the law for what she did.

  • Proud 2 b LDS Portland, ME
    April 15, 2014 5:15 a.m.

    This so sad. I can't imagine why a mother would feel so desperate and afraid that she would resort to such an awful means of ridding herself of her babies. I truly hope that over time those affected by this tragedy can forgive her. While she is incarcerated perhaps she will get the psychiatric help needed so that she will become mentally more stable. Those 7 sweet angels are now with a loving Heavenly Father and are safe from any harm.

  • anotherview2 SAN LUIS OBISPO, CA
    April 14, 2014 9:22 p.m.

    4th and last comment
    re:Kora
    "The fact that he has referred to babies already born as being fetuses,"
    Where?/Source?

    "The laws Obama opposed said nothing about protections for an unborn previable"
    perhaps not specifically, but as any good lawyer knows, broad general statements can be interpreted in a variety of ways. (An anencephalic baby could be born with a heartbeat but basically no brain).

    "partial birth"
    Are we now changing the topic?
    not a medical term (as you well know)


    "most liberals support"
    Source?/data?

    "Partial birth abortions are performed on infants who are past the age of viability of 24 weeks."
    Source?
    "viability"
    (there are infants with anencephaly, intrauterine death or other incompatible-with-life issues which results in the mother choosing to terminate the pregnancy rather than waiting until full-term).
    The Guttmacher Institute, (abortion-rights group conducts surveys of the nation's abortion doctors), about 15,000 abortions were performed in the year 2000 on women 20 weeks or more along in their pregnancies; the vast majority were between the 20th and 24th week. Of those, only about 2,200 D&X (partial birth)abortions were performed.

    "There has never been a verifiable case"
    Never?
    Source?

  • Alpiner Alpine, UT
    April 14, 2014 9:19 p.m.

    I can't figure out how some of the other people on here conclude that I am pro abortion because of my earlier comment.

  • wrz Phoenix, AZ
    April 14, 2014 9:19 p.m.

    @earthquakejake:
    "Babies don't just disappear. Someone else in the family had to have been involved."

    Perhaps the lady self aborted. Which would be entirely legal. Even partial-birth abortion is legal, if I understand correctly. Go figure.

  • Kora Cedar Hills, UT
    April 14, 2014 8:26 p.m.

    anotherview- The laws Obama opposed said nothing about protections for an unborn previable fetus. The fact that he has referred to babies already born as being fetuses, tells you something. He was just trying to defend the indefensible.
    Obama will support every form of abortion and defend infanticide in the name of protecting abortion rights.
    As a physician, there is no literature available that shows any benefit to a partial birth abortion, which most liberals support. There has never been a verifiable case where a woman has been protected by delivering the entire baby except the head, and killing the baby before delivery is complete versus delivering the entire baby alive. Partial birth abortipns are performed on infants who are past the age of viability of 24 weeks. To try and defend this practice in the name of a woman's health is despicable and an outright lie.

  • anotherview SLO, CA
    April 14, 2014 6:16 p.m.

    moderators is this now acceptable?

    re:Kora
    Obama opposed the Illinois bill because he viewed it as a backdoor to making abortion illegal. He supported the existing Illinois law, as I stated earlier, which requires Drs. to provide medical care. He explained his concerns in a speech stating: "whenever we define a PREVIABLE fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution....it would essentially bar abortions."

    re:TriciaCT

    Obama was talking about comprehensive sex education vs. abstinence only education--not abortion. "I don't want them punished with a baby. I don't want them punished with an STD at age 16, so it doesn't make sense to not give them information."

    Yes, a conservative media personality told his listeners (you?) John Holdren proposed putting sterilants in water and forced abortions--and politifact gave it a "pants on fire" rating, meaning the statement was not true and was a ridiculous claim.

    Emanuel said the Lives system was not meant to apply to health care in general, but only to a situation where "we don't have enough organs for everybody who needs a transplant."

    You need more credible sources.

  • LetsDebate PLEASANT GROVE, UT
    April 14, 2014 4:40 p.m.

    @NeilT - you must be extremely easily influenced to judgment if you think this gives the entire state of Utah a very negative image. Did the recent killings at Fort Hood give a very negative impression of all servicemen, or all people from Texas? Did the Boston Marathon bombers give you a very negative impression of everyone from Massachusetts? Did the kidnappings and torturing of 3 women in Cleveland for over a decade give you a very negative impression of everyone from Ohio? Good grief, I'm from Ohio and Utah, and currently live in Pleasant Grove. I wouldn't think any reasonable person in the world thinks this disturbed woman represents me, Pleasant Grove, or Utah.

  • LetsDebate PLEASANT GROVE, UT
    April 14, 2014 4:34 p.m.

    Justification of killing a completely viable baby two minutes before birth, but considering it murder two minutes later, is not only illogical but representative of morally bankrupt rationalization and depravity. To rationalize it based on temple work is not open minded, but pretty blatantly evil thinking and worthy of the highest condemnation of a supposedly faithful LDS person. I can't even imagine a person with any morality placing that little value on the life of an unborn but fully formed and viable baby. It's either unconscionably evil or off-the-charts disturbed, as this woman surely is.

    And yes, late term abortions do happen, regardless of D4inSLC's head in the sand. It requires a medical justification, but very little proof of that medical reason in many areas, so with a wink-wink, a "medical justification" is created and an abortion can be performed for reasons of convenience. They're not the norm, because even most normal abortion supporters don't have that level of depraved indifference to human life, but it does occur.

  • Ranch Here, UT
    April 14, 2014 4:34 p.m.

    @Whatsnu;

    In the womb you require health care and protection.

    Out of the womb, two minutes later, it's on it's own.

  • TriciaCT Trumbull, CT
    April 14, 2014 4:29 p.m.

    Re "Anotherview." This is from Jill Stanek, Illinois RN, from 2008:

    "Obama opposed SB1663 arguing he had 'confidence' that the abortionist, who was invested in attempting to kill the child pre-delivery; would not mind revealing his or her botch by calling a 2nd physician to ensure the child was given proper medical attention and revived if possible.

    "Obama thought it remarkable to suspect an abortionist of having a subjective medical opinion about his new second patient. It didn't occur to Obama that the abortionist might also be invested in seeing the baby dead to preclude malpractice lawsuits down the road if the baby were found not to have pre-birth diagnosed defects, an overriding reason for these late-term induced labor abortions.

    "But Obama's most telling statement from the clip was to say this bill 'is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion.'

    "In other words, if a baby were to survive his or her abortion, the death plan marked out for this child should be carried out nonetheless."

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 14, 2014 3:56 p.m.

    Life ends when the heart quits beating. It starts when the heart begins beating.

    The excuse of "end of pregnancy", doesn't change what it is. Manipulation of words don't cut it.

    Unborn babies react to the pain of being aborted. It's a fact.

    It's the taking of life.

  • D4inSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    April 14, 2014 3:21 p.m.

    I keep reading the "a few minutes after" comments. I thought the Supreme court ruled in 1973 that a woman's right to an abortion is not absolute and that the states can and have banned "late term abortions" (those after fetal viability. Too much Fox news folks! Bottom line, this person did not abort those babies. She murdered them after they were born.

  • suzyk#1 Mount Pleasant, UT
    April 14, 2014 3:13 p.m.

    To BYUalum...I totally agree with your comment...when I read this I was sick inside and cried. I do not know how a human being could do that .....this is unbearable.

  • Kora Cedar Hills, UT
    April 14, 2014 3:02 p.m.

    anotherview- Obama did oppose protections in Illinois. He stated he was opposed to the following language in the Bill: “A live child born as a result of an abortion shall be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection under the law.”

    What is offensive or controversial about giving a live child immediate protections.
    As reported in the Washington Post, "Obama voted against the new bill, which happened to be an almost exact replica — almost to the word — of a federal Born-Alive Infants Protection Act that passed in 2002". Why did he vote against it? He has even referred to a baby outside the womb as a fetus.

    airnaut- I think you are unfamiliar with age of viability and when women give birth. A baby is considered viable at 23-24 weeks gestation. A full term delivery occurs at 39-40 weeks gestation. Many babies are aborted in that 16 week period of viability but before birth. So what do you call the killing of a baby in that 16 week period? Many abortion supporters call it a legitimate termination of a pregnancy and it is legal in many states.

  • Noogieburger Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2014 2:56 p.m.

    I am not shocked at all by this story. I am extremely saddened that a mother would do this but look at America today. Look at the world. Millions of babies are brutally murdered every year and done so legally. I find it nauseating that it is considered legal to murder a baby only because it is still in the womb and has not breathed a breath of air when a few minutes later the baby is born and considered a full human with all rights pertaining thereto.

    This is only an indication of the depravity of our times. How can we expect people to honor and respect life when we have laws that encourage and support wholesale murder of the most innocent of our society.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    April 14, 2014 2:55 p.m.

    @Whatsnu
    Sandy, UT

    In the womb, you're fine with killing a baby.

    Out of the womb, two minutes later, it's murder.

    This is the kind of irrational thinking those who support "choice" must rationalize in order to justify killing an unborn baby.

    2:15 p.m. April 14, 2014

    ==========

    In the womb, we don't do Temple Work.

    Out of the womb, two minutes later, we DO do Temple Work.

    This is the kind of irrational thinking of those who can not differentiate one from the other.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    April 14, 2014 2:45 p.m.

    @Mechofuss
    What is occurring today is not any different than the days of the prophets you idolize. The only difference is the media.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2014 2:27 p.m.

    Alas, as several commentators have alluded to our world has evolved into one of great horrors.But many of our national law makers and leaders have turned their backs on morality now for many years. Things that were once viewed as unacceptable are now becoming common place. As the behavior of the citizens of this nation continues to become increasingly distant from the standards of morality and decency, we will only see more saddness and calamity. The profecies of The Book of Mormon and the Bible witten many centuries ago described the wickedness of our day and foretold the calamaties (earthquakes, droughts, natural disasters) which we are now seeing. Unfortunately, those who deny God and his teachings apparently do not recognize the consequences associated with the abandonment of his laws.

  • Whatsnu Sandy, UT
    April 14, 2014 2:15 p.m.

    anotherview

    In the womb, you're fine with killing a baby.

    Out of the womb, two minutes later, it's murder.

    This is the kind of irrational thinking those who support "choice" must rationalize in order to justify killing an unborn baby.

    The point is, it's not a choice, it's a person.

  • Acegrace Lilburn, GA
    April 14, 2014 1:31 p.m.

    My prayers are with her daughters. They are also going to suffer the stigma of this being found in their home that they had no idea about being there or their mother's "problems".

  • anotherview SLO, CA
    April 14, 2014 1:21 p.m.

    Re:Kora
    You are wrong.

    Long before Obama was a State Senator, since 1975, has had Illinois a law requiring:
    " if an abortion is performed when the fetus is deemed to be viable, the doctor must:

    Choose the method of abortion least likely to harm the fetus.
    Have in attendance a second doctor who can immediately take over care of the child if it's born alive.
    Use every available means to keep any born-alive child living and healthy."
    (Factcheck)
    Senator Obama supported the existing law requiring Drs. intervention as detailed above.

    Furthermore:
    In 2002, the 107th U.S. Congress passed the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act of 2001. This law established personhood for all infants who are born “at any stage of development” who breathe, have a heartbeat, or “definite movement of voluntary muscles,” regardless of whether the birth was due to labor or induced abortion.

  • Big Joe V Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    April 14, 2014 1:18 p.m.

    I concur with earlier comments this is a case of "do it yourself abortion". Same as the newborn strangled and thrown in the dumpster. In ancients times newborns were tossed in the fires of idols and condemned to death. And I also ask the question of how can this be disgusting and sniping the spinal cord of an aborted child not.

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    April 14, 2014 1:01 p.m.

    Oh, for crying out loud --
    Some will always use a horrible story to suit and push their own agendas...

    Abortion is the terminaltion of a pregnancy before viability of the fetus in all 50 States.
    Murder is the termination of a human being AFTER they are born.

    BIG difference.

    Stay "ON topic".

  • dmcvey Los Angeles, CA
    April 14, 2014 12:53 p.m.

    I think it's disturbing that people would equate what this obviously mentally unstable woman did with legal and safe abortion. If this woman had adequate mental healthcare this might have been avoidable.

  • Calif PETALUMA, CA
    April 14, 2014 12:26 p.m.

    Wow. May all the babies RIP.

  • Robcox Alameda, CA
    April 14, 2014 12:23 p.m.

    This type of behavior is so far outside of what would be considered "normal" behavior, regardless of a person's views on abortion or giving up the baby for adoption, this lady will shortly be diagnosed with some type of mental illness. My shot-in-the-dark... Postpartum Depression (severe) with Psychotic features, rule out Adjustment Disorder, Borderline Personality Disorder, Bipolar Disorder.

  • dmcvey Los Angeles, CA
    April 14, 2014 12:07 p.m.

    This shows why mental health care and counseling for pregnatn women is so important.

    U-tar. It's not called abortion to kill a living baby.

  • TriciaCT Trumbull, CT
    April 14, 2014 12:01 p.m.

    I too thought of the abortion connection. However, this is even worse than that horrific travesty in our nation. This apparently soulless woman--or at least split personality, as she was reported to be a good babysitter--can be likened to the evil Kermit Gosnell, the ice-cold, murderous abortionist who was finally convicted last year.

    This sick story is so difficult to understand, and that it would take place in Utah makes it all the more incomprehensible.

  • Kora Cedar Hills, UT
    April 14, 2014 11:46 a.m.

    Anotherview- Actually you are incorrect about being required to provide life saving measures to a baby born alive. There are many states that don't require life saving measures for a baby born alive during an attempted abortion. President Obama, when he was a State Senator in Illinois opposed a law in Illinois that would require life saving measures to be performed if a baby survived an abortion. Many abortion rights advocates support letting a baby who survives an abortion to die outside the womb. They oppose the requirement to perform neonatal resuscitation unless the mom demands it. The idea that a baby could be born alive and allowed to die without intervention is sick as well, but supported by many liberal groups.

  • DrGroovey Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2014 10:30 a.m.

    Does it get and weirder than this?

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    April 14, 2014 10:25 a.m.

    @D4inSLC

    First, I'm not speculating on anything. A reputable news source is reporting that she was an alcohol abuser.

    Second, you are implying that all alcohol use is the result of mental illness. I bet there are some drinkers here who would take issue what that implication.

    To reiterate from my original post, I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what tangible benefits alcohol and illegal drug use bring that you can't get elsewhere.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2014 10:24 a.m.

    I am shocked that so many libs are actually sickened by this ......The hypocrisy from the left has no bounds. What this women did is no different than is being done everyday in planned parenthood and liberal hospitals throughout the USA.....this is just another form of abortion!

  • grandmagreat Lake Havasu City, AZ
    April 14, 2014 10:21 a.m.

    What a sad story, if her husband and family knew she was pregnant, why didn't they ask questions? This is the saddest story I have read in my lifetime. It is hard to believe that this could happen without someone knowing that she had been expecting a baby.

  • Itsme2 SLC, UT
    April 14, 2014 9:56 a.m.

    And I am unable to have a second child. This hurts beyond words.

  • bullet56 Olympia, WA
    April 14, 2014 9:56 a.m.

    This was not some small hallow in Appalachia or a third world country. It makes me really question the responsible parents in the case as to why birth control or sterilization was not used instead of the terrible end we see here. Shameful, and criminal.

  • caleb in new york Glen Cove, NY
    April 14, 2014 9:29 a.m.

    I think silligirl from San Antonion misunderstood material from the article. The woman broke the law by killing the babies. The Safe Haven Law was not used by the Huntsman woman suspect. Rather, the article discussed that Law to show that Huntsman had a viable alternative to helping the babies even if she didn't want to raise the baby herself.

  • anotherview SLO, CA
    April 14, 2014 9:24 a.m.

    This was not abortion, it was murder.
    Abortion is termination of a pregnancy. Killing an infant after delivery is murder.

    Six of the seven babies were born alive.

    Every Dr. In the U.S. would be ethically required to administer life-saving measures to a baby born alive.

  • my_two_cents_worth university place, WA
    April 14, 2014 9:22 a.m.

    And the anti-choice folks immediately jump on this for their political gain.

    The one thing about predictability is, well, it's predictable.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 14, 2014 9:21 a.m.

    @Red:

    Samething.

  • JanieDoe Layton, UT
    April 14, 2014 9:20 a.m.

    I think we are all in shock at this tragic story. This article is an alarm to society reminding us of the sanctity of human life. Society has selfishly and in self-denial set a double standard. If this mother had chosen to abort her children--the same result would have taken place--a mother killed six of her children over a ten year period. Society chooses to accept the abortion option as being appropriate but recognizes that killing the baby a few months later is a heinous crime. We have to stand up for those who cannot stand up for themselves and speak out for the sanctity of human life.

  • Red San Antonia, TX
    April 14, 2014 9:02 a.m.

    Yet, we continue to allow abortions.

    Where is the news coverage on all of those murders?

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    April 14, 2014 8:59 a.m.

    @Frankenberry

    "He'll tell how this poor woman is a victim of blah, blah, blah and is really not responsible for any of this horror. It's her ex-husband's fault. Or maybe her 8th grade English teacher. Can't wait to see how it plays out."

    ....and your psychiatric training came from where? You did your residency at what facility? Your published works include what? Your medical training was obtained where?

    You know nothing of the case, you haven't examined the murderer, you haven't spoken to her doctor. Your expertise in psychosis I'm assuming is non-existent. I'm not excusing this woman by any means, but she obviously is mentally ill. Why she didn't receive mental health treatment over the past decade only those close to her will know.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    April 14, 2014 8:54 a.m.

    Why all the posts on abortion? Seems to be off topic and not related to the story at hand.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    April 14, 2014 8:53 a.m.

    Mentally ill people do irrational things. I don't know why everyone here keeps trying to place a rational reason for such an irrational action. Psychosis is a horrible thing and you'll never be able to rationally explain it.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    April 14, 2014 8:32 a.m.

    I don't understand how a mother can abort their infant. This is murder.

  • U-tar Woodland Hills, UT
    April 14, 2014 7:46 a.m.

    For Steve in Hanford California, This is going on your community, so not so happy either.

  • U-tar Woodland Hills, UT
    April 14, 2014 7:26 a.m.

    This kind of thing goes on every day all over the world, it's called Abortion. Is it any wonder our world is so messed up.

  • IndeMak South Jordan, UT
    April 14, 2014 7:12 a.m.

    That's messed up.

  • California Steve Hanford, CA
    April 14, 2014 7:04 a.m.

    Happy Valley not so happy any more.

  • RG Buena Vista, VA
    April 14, 2014 6:52 a.m.

    Nan BW beat me to the punch, but today, babies are aborted that would be able to live outside the womb, and this is called "female reproductive health." And if you protest these abortions, you are waging a "war on women." But that is really not much different than this. Anyone horrified by this incident ought to be horrified by those abortions, and worse, horrified that society is so oblivious to it.

  • Incite Full Layton, UT
    April 14, 2014 6:15 a.m.

    This story goes to show the importance of cleaning out your garage.

  • BU52 Provo, ut
    April 14, 2014 5:22 a.m.

    this is beyond weird, no one knew she was pregnant 7 times? We are our brother's keeper and I think there is much more to this story than we are hearing.

  • Sven Morgan, UT
    April 14, 2014 2:49 a.m.

    Sorry, but can someone please explain to me why we’re shocked and outraged by this mother’s actions? We’re a nation that allows and celebrates a mothers the “right” to murder her unborn baby in the most brutal ways imaginable. The end result of these abortions is so ghastly; DN would never allow me to post pictures of the aftermath. Yet somehow we’re shocked and outraged by what this mother did?

    Where’s the shock and outrage at the other million babies who’ve had their lives snuffed out by their mothers through the barbaric practice of abortion? Sadly, some here will not be able to make the connection. We celebrate the deaths of some babies, and mourn others. We are a sick society.

  • Grammy3 SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    April 14, 2014 1:23 a.m.

    I am sitting here right now just sick to my stomach. I am so grateful that I am not her judge. Only God really knows what happened and Why. It is a shame though because there are so many Women out there that would love to be a mommy. My daughter who is now 40 years old is one of them. She would have loved to of been a mom and she would have been a great mother at that. But here we have a woman who killed seven little infants and for what reason. Truly a mystery

  • earthquakejake Logan, UT
    April 13, 2014 11:13 p.m.

    Babies don't just disappear. Someone else in the family had to have been involved.

  • Miss Piggie Phoenix, AZ
    April 13, 2014 11:09 p.m.

    @Alpiner:
    "If someone went into a public place then shot and killed seven people they would be a mass murderer."

    Some are known to have aborted as many. What of them?

  • Frankenberry Saint George, UT
    April 13, 2014 11:03 p.m.

    I fear the saddest part of this story hasn't been written yet. Some sharp, soulless lawyer will step in and paint a picture of abuse, neglect, drug use, social denial. He'll tell how this poor woman is a victim of blah, blah, blah and is really not responsible for any of this horror. It's her ex-husband's fault. Or maybe her 8th grade English teacher. Can't wait to see how it plays out.

  • silligirl50 San Antonio, TX
    April 13, 2014 11:02 p.m.

    This law needs to change ASAP!!! what's happened to these babies is sickening and because of this law this sick person will get away with it. If the father had rights this never would have happened. Not with these many deaths! Oh my heck this is so sickening. Poor infants never never never had a chance ALL BECAUSE OF THIS DUMB LAW AND BECAUSE OF THIS sick woman...

  • I know it. I Live it. I Love it. Provo, UT
    April 13, 2014 9:59 p.m.

    No one can hide anything from God. You can bury whatever you want, but it is never hidden. The real question, is that if you have something like this to hide... what put you in that position in the first place. Why anyone would do this, under any circumstance, is something I simply can't understand. Insanity doesn't even begin to cover this. It's evil.

  • Nan BW ELder, CO
    April 13, 2014 8:32 p.m.

    It seems to me that serious mental illness is part of the tragic circumstances. However, had she had abortions, she would not be in custody. We do live in an incredibly mixed up world, and much of it has to do with mental problems, lack of family stability and a host of problems that point to disobedience of moral laws. It is so sad. It is true that is what would appear to be her best option would have been giving up babies for adoption. I can honestly say I have had an experience with that, and it was for the best.

  • FREDISDEAD Layton, UT
    April 13, 2014 7:29 p.m.

    How did the "EX-Husband" not know she was pregnant SIX TIMES??

    Pretty bizarre story.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    April 13, 2014 7:13 p.m.

    What kind of person does this? I am physically sickened by this.

  • JP Chandler, AZ
    April 13, 2014 6:29 p.m.

    ??????? What is wrong with the world? More and more the news reads like a very bad nightmare.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    April 13, 2014 6:20 p.m.

    Just horrible.

    Was the family and friends clueless or what?

    If someone is pregnant 7 times over the course of many years and then suddenly is not carrying a child and the baby is not around does anyone notice?

    SEVEN times?

    Really?

  • Alpiner Alpine, UT
    April 13, 2014 5:44 p.m.

    If someone went into a public place then shot and killed seven people they would be a mass murderer. If someone captured seven children and murdered them they would be a serial murderer. She needs to be treated the same. We should hope she won't be treated differently because they were babies.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    April 13, 2014 4:48 p.m.

    I am absolutely speechless and horrified! How could any human being be so devoid of feeling and natural maternal affection to do something like this to her own babies when there are so many deserving parents who would give anything to rear a child? It is beyond my ability to comprehend!