You want to know why I don't go back to church, it's all the people
who are judging this kid because he chose to not go on a mission, or will be
working some Sundays. I thought it was his choice, and he has agency, yet all of
you get upset on what this kid should do with his life. It isn't your life,
you're getting into heaven(or not)regardless of Jabari Parker's
decision. No wonder the kid is iffy about playing in SLC, he will have this
angry judgmental crowd attacking him after any move he makes.
If you look at what we are really trying to accomplish in this life, what we are
trying to become, it becomes easier to understand why sisters in the church are
given the option to serve if they choose, but young men are called upon to
prepare and to serve.To those of you who will want to refute my
opinion, you'll have a better time of it using Gifford Nielson as your
example. But my favorite athlete of all time is Eli Herring.
Can anyone think of any athletes that had great professional careers that did
serve a mission? The only one I can think of is Chad Lewis and his career was
good, but not spectacular.
I don't remember the call for ALL worthy young men to serve have an
exception to how famous you are. Or have I heard that only a some are inspired
to go. The person that said a mission is not a saving ordinance is right, but
don't forget as a missionary you are bringing saving ordinances to those
that don't have them. I hate to judge anyone as to why they would serve or
not serve, but don't be fooled into thinking that his mission is to play
basketball. All of us at some point have to figure out why we are here and what
God wants us to do. I can't say I wouldn't have made the same decision
as Jabari, but I am glad I didn't have to.
You all really seem to know a lot of what is going through his head - from 2000
miles away. As to the comment about playing in Utah versus playing
for the Lakers.... well duh. The Jazz are not a team with a history, or any
prestige. They would have gotten the same response had they asked about playing
for Bobcats, or any of the other tier two teams. Lets not be over sensitive
here.Duke is a premier program. The Lakers are a premier program.
BYU nor the Jazz are premier programs. His decision should not be
at all considered as a way to judge his beliefs or his intentions.. anymore so
than they were for Steve Young.
It seemed like passing on a mission was an easy decision for him. He did say
its a really tough decision on whether to come back for another year of college,
noting that it would be tough to leave behind a coach and program that really
helped him out. He also said it didn't matter if he played in Utah, but
that he would feel blessed to play in Los Angeles. He's really focused on
Couldn't we just be content with Jabari respectfully asking NBA players if
he could tell them about his church, prior to tip offs?
If you think he should go on a mission for his own benefit, that is one thing.
If you think he should go to help spread the word, he has already done so an
will continue to do so based on who he is.He would be a perfect fit
at Boston with Danny Ainge looking after him. :)
He's a special talent. I hope he declares for the draft and ideally the
Jazz pick him. That would be too good to be true, but God works in mysterious
ways. A mission would be great, but he's probably more
talented than Steve Young, so if somehow he can withstand all the temptations
that playing in the NBA bring and maintain his testimony that would be great
publicity and "missionary" service for the LDS church.
Jabari does not need to go on a two year proselytizing mission, to be a
missionary. In fact, he has probably sparked more peoples curiosity about the
Mormon church, just from the national exposure he gets, than all of the
RM's who have commented on here, including myself. I believe Jabari will
become a superstar in the NBA, and have a great influence on many, particularly
the youth. No, he may not go on a normal two year mission, and become an RM,
but he will be an LTM (Life Time Missionary). Maybe that is what all of us
should strive to be. By the way Gregory Hill, I was on my mission in
Philadelphia, and I wish you guys the best out there, but I am hoping for a
miracle and the Jazz can get him, if he declares for the draft. Besides, you
guys have Philly Cheese Steaks, what more could you possibly want ?
Don't know why people are saying to stop commenting on what he's
missing out on. None of the comments have ridiculed. All they've said is
that he may regret it and why he might, which isn't ridiculing. DNews
moderators don't let anything negative through.@Another view.
This argument that many apostles didn't serve has no clout. In their day,
many were required to serve in the military and it was a time if war. It
wasn't until Kimball that The Lord said "every young man should serve a
mission" and Monson has said the exact same thing. Justification is never a
reason to not fulfill a commandment from God
For those using GA's to rationalize anyone today not serving a mission -
many GA's came of age around and shortly after WW2 when Church Wards were
restricted to one or two men serving at any point in time. For any GA older
than 75, they very well may not have been offered the opportunity.By
all accounts, Jabari is a great young man and will continue to represent his
beliefs whatever he decides to do. Personally, I don't understand why he
would stay another year in college and risk anything that would damage his
current draft value; I've not heard a single expert indicate that any
deficiency in his game would be better addressed by staying one more year at
Duke. Maybe he's waiting to get a better assessment of where he's
likely to be drafted before he commits.Incidentally, there are a lot
of young athletes in the college and pro ranks who could benefit greatly as
individuals from a year or two away from being the center of the universe to
learn what it's like to get their hands dirty and exhaust themselves
serving others without thought of personal gain.
None of us has any clue what he's going through in making these decisions.
Certainly none of us has any reference even close to his that we can pass
judgement on the young man. Unless you too have been hailed since age 16 as,
"The Next Lebron." Come on people, you can be disappointed and you can
disagree with his decision, but your mission and your decisions at that age have
absolutely no relevance in this discussion.
We need to stop measuring people according to whether they did or did not serve
a mission.Quiz:Who is this? Served 1 yr in
the Naval Reserves stationed in San Diego, until he was 19 yrs oldReturned
to school.Married at age 21. Never served a missionanswer: Thomas S. Monson
I would imagine that if Coach K could recruit a really good big man, Jabari
would stay for one more year. That is all that Duke lacked this past season.
jasonlivy,I saw the same thing. You know what I thought?How many missionaries truly sacrifice for a mission? Many. David
Archuleta--not as much as most. He left a good job, fame, glory, etc., yes.
However, can you honestly tell me that him doing interviews and being put on
"YouTube" and doing concerts is considered a sacrifice? He came
back home to a bank account full of money, and a job that will provide for the
rest of his life.Before you say it, I'm not jealous. I saw
sacrifice. It was my companion who was from Chile who got up at 4 am everyday
before his mission who found cardboard on the streets and sold it door to door.
It was the companion from Argentina who put cardboard in his shoes to cover
holes. Not the ones who were put on the internet and did interviews for the
world to see to show how much they love the Lord. It was the ones who loved him
silently and didn't publicize it. His mission was "low profile",
but for 2 years we heard about concerts, interviews, and saw pictures all over.
Jabari's dad is not LDS, so he likely didn't feel the same pressure to
serve a mission. I'm glad to see he did what he wanted to do rather than
what he was being told to do. Too many bow to the pressure of authority and
culture rather than following their heart.
I choose not to go on a mission and have regretted it ever since. I see how
blessed those who went are and know that had I serve the Lord my life would be
different in some very important ways. It is hard when you are young to see the
future blessing that will be missed, when al you see is stardom. How ever, if
he chose to serve he would be a star when he returned no doubt, but choosing not
to go there is room for doubt of being as successful as he would like tone.Case in point: When Jim McMann left BYU, he mocked Gods Church and His
standards. We all see how he faired in his career. Yes, he made it to the
Super Bowl but that was it. His career was short lived and racked with
injuries. And no one hardly remembers who he is or his accomplishment.
Totally unfair for people to be judging here. Why don't we put Steve
Young and Danny Ainge up for introspection as well. Why don't you worry
about your own salvation, and let him and his own personal inspiration, plus his
bishop deal with making this decision. This is none of others
business…. This young man has done more to progress the image
of the church into many communities that would not give us attention before.
His mission in this life is not yours, and yours likewise is not his. I would
be really careful jumping into the judgement seat.
"How many great athletes who had tremendous professional careers have
express regret over not going on a mission?"We're only in
Act 2 of this 3 Act play. Let's wait to find out what everyone regrets when
we stand before God to be judged. I know I'll have plenty to account for to
have to worry about what others (especially athletes) will have to account for.
It's his decision and one he makes between him and God. I will say I admire
those athletes who have forgone what might have been a potential athletic career
to do what they knew to be right. Which might explain why there are so few good
role models in athletics.
"I don't think there has been a great athlete that has regretted
serving a Mormon mission."There are probably tens of thousands
of people who regret serving missions, but you won't read their regrets in
Deseret News, or anywhere else, for that matter. If anyone regrets serving a
mission, they are socially shamed to keep it silent.
I suppose it's not that imporant but Greg you will need to move east over
the Delaware River to Via Sikahema's state of New Jersey to be in the state
with the lowest LDS population per capita in the US.I think it is telling
in the Church leadership that none of the members of the First Preidency and
many of the members of the Quorum of the Televe did not serve full time
missions. WHile having served my own mission was the most significant event in
my life there are certainly many strong righteuos LDS (and non LDS) people who
have not served the Lord in this manner..
Steve Young (the guy who went to BYU), Donny Osmond, and both of my grandfathers
did not go on missions. I am sure all of these great men (including Jabari
Parker) have prayed about it. They do not strike me as people who would shirk a
challenge and demur if the Lord inspired them to go on missions.
His mission will be to demonstrate how to be an exemplary Mormon by being paid
millions of dollars a year to throw a ball through a hoop on Sundays.
TOO:First off, I'm sorry your mission wasn't what you
expected. I had a completely different experience that I've relied on
throughout my life. I've been home 20 years but still experience lasting
joy from serving. It helped mold and shape me in the gospel like no experience
ever did.My simple and unassuming comment was based on the program I
watched about David Archuleta after conference. It was inspiring and he had a
similar decision to make that Jabari has. No doubt David would have a huge
influence for good no matter what he did, but he chose to serve the Lord by
putting his love for the Savior above his own desires. That is a huge sacrifice
and one I believe Jabari would benefit hearing from someone who's as famous
as he is.Basketball and singing are different, but serving a mission
did not do any favors for David's singing career. Yet he still served.I am in no way saying that Jabari has any less love for the gospel than
David. I know he is getting wise council from his parents, coaches, and church
leaders. I wish him only the best.
Disappointed at what is certainly his decision to make. It doesn't make
him a bad person. Just some concern as a mission was one of his lifetime goals;
hope he doesn't regret this. It is hard because he has all this attention,
these "pro" expectations, money/security, a great school/program to stay
with if he wants to, and some doubts about what a mission might do to his
skills/conditioning.My feeling is that ALL college athletes (with
very few economic exceptions) should stay in college four years of eligibility
and get a degree. That the NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL should require a four-year
degree to work (play) for them.So would like to see Jabari serve a
mission, get two years of maturity, finish three more years at Duke (or wink,
transfer to BYU) and then go pro. Interesting, too, is that while his skill set
certainly exceeds Jimmer's, it is highly possible that more time with Coach
K at Duke would improve Parker's less than great defensive skills -- which
with all the hype has proved to be Fredette's downfall at the next level.
@Gregory HillI was thinking "no way is that true" and assumed a
southern state had the lowest rate. I looked it up and PA is 47th (I was
thinking 30th so you were much closer than I) at 392 mormons per 100,000. Guess
that explains why the stake reached from the New York to Maryland border...
I'd just assumed central PA was sparsely populated.The lowest
state was New Jersey at 360 per 100k. DC had 70 per 100k.
Being a returned missionary myself, I know the life experience that Jabari will
be missing out on by not serving a mission. That's a shame. Jabari seems
like a bright young man so I hope he makes the second-best decision and stays in
school. it's too bad he's decided not to serve a mission though.
He's going to miss out on a great learning experience.
I never expected him to go on a mission. It was always a hoax as was his
interest in attending BYU. I'm not saying I would turn the money down, but
I certainly would be honest about it. It takes courage and conviction to live
standards. When he selected Duke it was clear that he had little interest in
anything except professional basketball. I wish him well.
People lose their minds about sports. This is all about money. I hope he does
well and keeps his standards,but their is no comparison between "keeping
your skills" for basketball and seeing The Lord for two years. When it came
time to choose, he punted.
Happy, Jabari would not likely be viewed as more desirable by NBA teams if he
remained at Duke. He is already a consensus Top 3 draft pick, and as more
polished in vid basketball skills than his competitors for the top pick: Joel
Embiid and Andrew Wiggins.One cannot improve much on that draft
profile, but a weak season (or an injury) could result in a much less favorable
future draft situation for Jabari, a deterioration that could cost him many
millions of dollars.
@LovelyDeseret"I don't think there has been a great athlete that
has regretted serving a Mormon mission."If you are saying that in a
sarcastic tone, then you're funny and I agree.
Jabari would almost surely be a top three pick in this year's draft. He is
viewed by basketball scouts as being more polished than Andrew Wiggins, who is
viewed as having more upside.I really hope he declares for the draft
and ends up with the Philadelphia 76ers, and is wildly successful. We have
fewer Mormons per capita in PA than any other State in the union. If Jabari
comes here, he will be serving a mission of sorts, and will have a marvelous
opportunity to serve as a role model, as Vai Sikahema has done.
jasonlivySince athleticism and singing are the same category.David Archuleta would still be able to maintain his same level of skill
on his mission.Parker could and most likely would lose much of his
skill. He would drop from a top 3 pick to possibly not even being drafted at
all. Coming from me, an RM and active member, the whole mindset of
missions and being and RN is completely absurd to me. RM means nothing. I
served with many people who should have been sent home for things they did, but
they are RMs and nobody knows what type of missionaries they were. If
Parker is an active, worthy and good Priesthood holder--who cares. A mission is
not a saving ordinance. The purpose of college is to provide for your family.
If Parker can get one year of college in and then have the possibility to
provide for his family next year, that is HIS decision. Not ANY of you. Shame
on all of you for judging him for his decision. Neither of you are him, the
Savior, or his bishop or stake president.
What is the big hurry? Wouldn't he be a much more valuable player with
three more years of collegiate play under his belt? He would also be able to
complete his undergraduate education. Are his parents pushing this? I had
previously thought Parker was a young man with goals in his life that reached a
little higher place than he is now showing. It seems that getting out
"there" and making bucks seems to be the ultimate goal at this point.
I think he needs to talk to David Archuleta.
My gut it telling me Jabari will stay in school to have a chance of winning an
NCAA championship, plus he will be with a very talented roster and the best
coach in college basketball. The Utah Jazz picked the wrong year to not be any
good considering they will have the sixth pick in the draft and all of the best
college players will be gone by the time they select. How I wish
Corbin would have started Kanter, Favors, Trey, Alex and Gordon three or four
months ago and let them develop as a starting unit. I believe their record would
be much better and management would be focusing more on free agency and
surrounding them with good bench players with the available cap space they have
then the upcoming draft. I hope Jabari makes the right decision for
himself and that the Jazz will get very luck in the lottery and have the balls
bounce their way!!
Good decision Jabari!I don't think you will ever regret it. Lovely Deseret,How many great athletes who had tremendous
professional careers have express regret over not going on a mission?
Super tough decision. He'll do great things for the LDS Church either way.
I don't think most of us really understand how tough of a decision this
I don't think there has been a great athlete that has regretted serving a
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