Why doesn't ESPN just put the games on Saturdays?
Since I have to fly to attend games, I certainly want all changes to be made as
early as possible. There needs to be a time when no further changes will be
made. Until BYU has some good teams for 5 or 6 years or joins a
major conference they won't have much clout to get anything. Watching
Bronco's BYU is boring football. If this tread continues we'll be
lucky to get on TV any day of the week. Losing to Boise 7 to 6 is not why
people watch BYU. I fear it will be some time before BYU has a real creative
@wayneLosing to Boise 7-6, as I recall was two seasons ago, in the Riley
Nelson broke-back year. Doman was OC. Last year, BYU had a brand
new offense, new offensive coaches, a beat up OL, and whipped BSU, Texas, and
Houston. Yes they did not beat Wisconsin, Notre Dame, Utah and Washington, but
we're looking for improvement this year.
College Football on Thurs is good plus a decent alternative to Wrestling. I don't like the NFL on Thursday & NCAA games on Friday are
Interesting. It appears that the underlying premise of the article is that
people tune into to ESPN to watch byu. The graphic indicates that the highest
viewership was games against BSU, Wisconsin, ND, Texas and Utah. Could it be
that those games had the most viewers because of the other team and it had
nothing to do with either byu or ESPN?? Take a look at who
byu's competition was for the games with the least number of viewers. None
of them have strong fan bases.
Any amount is worth it to be on ESPN. Independence is the ultimate acheivement,
now if we could keep people from going to high school games on Fridays.
@MyPerspective. I think that the opponent had something to do with why those
games were on ESPN (or not). But, the much larger contributor to viewership
comes from the channel the game was played on. If I had ESPNU, I would have
tuned into every single one of those games. Those were radio games for me. Basic
statistical practices tell us that in order to make such a conclusion as you
have, the games would all need to be shown on the same channel.
Games on Thur or Fri are absolutely great for BYU. There are far less options
for football fans around the country to tune into which obviously gives BYU a
better shot at a greater viewership.Put BYU mid-saturday and most of their
games will go relatively unwatched outside of Provo. There are just far better
games for the nation to switch to. Now if it's the occasional Wisconsin or
Notre Dame game, that might be a different story, but we all know that has more
to do with, well, Wisconsin and Notre Dame.
@My PerspectiveIt's true that there are more viewers when we
play good teams, but that is true for every team across the country. I'll
bet Alabama vs. Auburn had a heck of a lot more viewers than Alabama vs. Eastern
Tennessee Institute of the Arts or whoever they played early in the year.So yes, the opponent makes a difference, but that is true for any
football game. Nobody wants to watch the best team if they are playing a bad
opponent. It's much more interesting to watch BYU play Wisconsin than Idaho
Many BYU fans do not live in Utah Valley. I appreciate the concern that it is
difficult to pick up the kids from school and get them to a Thursday night game,
but channel availability is important for those of us spread throughout the
country.I am not particularly concerned if other people watch the
Sure, grab the dollars. Who even cares about attendance at games on thursday.
Lots of people used to travel to Provo for games but with inferior completion
and Thursday games a lot of people are staying home.
Chris B... Can you find the article that talks about how many people tuned in to
Utah vs. (fill in the blank) games? Since you constantly like to draw
comparisons, dont forget this one. Oh, and dont forget that you
cheer for a university that some NBA athletes have thought was a city (Dirk
Nowitzki). If you want to elbow in Williams comment when he was 16 and in high
school, dont forget that you live in a state that most East Coast people know
next to nothing about.
Just win games, all of them regardless of who the opponent is, and all else will
fall in place. TV time slots and day of broadcast will take care of themselves
which will result in more national exposure and more respect for the program.
So until that happens on a consistent basis, it will be the "same old same
old" story. Nothing will change!I know it's hard to
attract the top athletes in the country to BYU but I keep hoping we'd
somehow pulled a miracle with a bunch of walk ons and no name athletes. I
always love a Cinderella story anyway! It happened once and I'm hoping
it'll happen again.Go Cougars!
CBBYU's Thursday/Friday games will be on ESPN/ESPN2 competing
against only one or two other games for national attention.Utah's Saturday morning/afternoon games will be on PAC net regional, lost
in an avalanche of other games.Good luck even being able to watch
the game without paying a premium price if you are a Utah fan living in
Washington and Utah is playing in California or Arizona.
As a BYU fan in Alaska, having ESPN involved is a blessing in regard to the fact
that I can watch more games. The drawback comes from BYU having a coach that
doesn't seem to have a passion for winning, like a Nick Saban does, and it
trickles down to the team. So, watching BYU get it's butt kicked on
national TV isn't fun, entertaining or worthwhile and I, and many others,
turn it off. Until the school and coach consider football as something other
than a tool for exposure for the church, they will find more and more of their
games on ESPNU or ESPN News and not on the main channels...and fewer people
watching (which defeats the purpose, right?). Bronco still
considers coaching a 9 to 5 job - until that changes, it doesn't matter
what night BYU plays on, or its opponent...winning puts butts in the seats and
eyes watching on TV.
It doesn't matter to me what night of the week BYU is playing. I love
being able to tune in and support my team. If it was an afternoon game during
the week I'd just TiVo the game and watch it when I got home from work.I feel sorry for the Utah fans in Texas... (are there any?) who
can't watch all of their games. And I love that my team comes down here to
play occasionally. Independence has many benefits.Go Cougars!
BYU Fan in DC:"If you want to elbow in Williams comment when he
was 16 and in high school, dont forget that you live in a state that most East
Coast people know next to nothing about."What does that have to
do with Williams believing the Y was a D-II school? Jamaal isn't from the
east coast. He's from San Bernardino County.
Real BassIdaho Falls, ID"Lots of people used to travel to
Provo for games but with inferior completion and Thursday games a lot of people
are staying home."Anecdotal statistic, but I believe the last
time I watched a Provo non-Saturday game on TV, the announced attendance worked
out to 92% of capacity. Thursday night in the snow, game is televised, and 92%
still made it out.Wish our sacrament meeting attendance was so
"dont forget that you live in a state that most East Coast people know next
to nothing about."Weak smack. That says more about those East
Coasters than it does about the state of Utah.
Basketball attendance is down. Four reasons(there may be more) 1. late start
times esp. on week nights 2. Games being televised so some watch at home 3. BYU
is much more academically intense..gotta study 4. WCC conference teams have
dismal following on the road. As regards football the first three reasons
likely apply. Add into the mix "other" events competing for fans'
attention, and some opponents since we went "indy" have dismal following
on the road. I am quite sure our attendance will suffer on Thurs. and Fri.
I think the Texas, Virginia, and GT games all show the importance of Network.
Texas has one of the largest fan bases around, if not the largest. Since this
was an away game and they were ranked, you would assume they would be even more
likely to tune in. But, it looks like they didn't. Similarly, Virginia
and GT have much more established names and fan bases than other programs such
as Utah. However, they had almost the same viewership as the less established
MTSU. It seems that network really does matter.
MyPerspectiveSalt Lake City, UTBYU will survive very well without
playing utah, but games with the Big 10, ND, competitive PAC 12 teams, which
excludes utah, and others are always of interest. utah shot themselves in the
foot by not scheduling BYU.
These games are totally aweseom.this chart pretty much proves more peopel
watch byu football the Noter Dame and Wisconsin combined! We have more fans that
UW and ND! Utah fans cant match that.
@ 4601Why? Michigan, Fresno, and ISU > BYU, USU, and Weber.
BYU is competing with high school football on Friday nights. Future students,
athlete's and parents are at high school games, not watching BYU football
LIVE. Yes, the game repeats can be watched and games can be recorded. But
Saturday IS college football day, that is when the majority of games are played,
if your not playing on Saturday, your not playing when the rest of the nation is
paying attention. The sport tickers, game highlights, media conversations are
all about the teams playing on Saturday, the early week games are somewhat lost
and forgotten. It's really not any different than the old MWC days of being
at the mercy of the networks with odd dates and times. Early week games are the
appetizer, not the main course. With BYU desiring to be at the big boy table,
they need to be playing when the big boys do! With almost half of the season
scheduled games to be played on a Thursday or a Friday night does not put BYU on
TV on the day that everyone is comparing and evaluating who is good and who
great. What is more important: being relevant or ratings?
CBS is now going to televise an NFL game every Thursday night this coming
season. Not on their cable station but on the parent network. Good luck to
anyone going up against an NFL game and you better believe the NFL will schedule
an attractive contest.
Dutchman:"CBS is now going to televise an NFL game every
Thursday night this coming season. Not on their cable station but on the parent
network. Good luck to anyone going up against an NFL game and you better believe
the NFL will schedule an attractive contest."The NFL has had
Thursday night games on cable for several years now. This is not new. The fact
that it's on CBS network is irrelevant - you'd have to have cable to
get ESPN games anyway. And yeah, I'm sure ESPN has to factor this into
their broadcast decisions, but some viewers actually prefer college football
over regular-season NFL.Coaches would strongly prefer Saturday
games; my guess is players would as well. This is the downside to a deal
directly with ESPN - they put your games at times when they can get the best
financial result. Unfortunately, the 2014 scheduling is in direct correlation
to the 2012 and 2013 performance on the field. Live in the Top 25, and
you'll get better scheduling from ESPN.
DutchmanMany fans, myself included, prefer college football to pro
Anytime BYU can get on national television it is worthwhile! It gives more
exposure to the university and to the church. It shoud (and probably does)
translate to more young athletes in all sports seeing the exposure they can get
by being on TV each week. As that continues some "unexpected"
recruitable athletes will become aware of BYU and see the exposure that they can
receive. It works the same way in all the other sports with the opportunity to
be on BYU TV.Wearing a PAC 12 sticker on your jersey only caries so
much weight if you are a crappy team in a prestigious conference. Kids want to
be seen on TV and their parents and families want to be able to see them. The
combination of independence, ESPN, and BYU TV is working and will only get
better. As BYU recruits better athletes who will abide by the honor code, more
Saturday ESPN games will come. For now, take the Thursday and Friday games and
More important on which night of the week the game is being played, is the team
that we are playing.A game vs. a team like Idaho State, Middle
Tenn., or South Central Mid Main being played at Prime time ABC, CBS, NBC, or
ESPN, on a Saturday, will not give the exposure that we could get playing any
time of the day, any day of the week on any Nationally broadcasted network
playing teams like Notre Dame, Texas, USC, Oregon, LSU, FLorida, Florida State
or Oklahoma, especially when they are ranked.The difference is
pride. If we are proud that our team is playing a top notch quality team, we
may even leave a funeral to watch it. When we are not proud that we are playing
a team, we may rather go to a funeral than waste our time watching a game
when we know the outcome before the game is played.
As a BYU fan I prefer the Thursday and Friday games. Saturday games eat up your
entire Saturday and make it hard to do other things.
I'd even enjoy the occasional Tuesday or Wednesday game that ESPN runs. As
long as I could watch BYU football I am game.The thing I enjoy most
about the non-Saturday games is that I can tune in and really pay attention. On
Saturday I tend to keep updated on all the games going on so it is much harder
to focus on just BYU when they do play Saturday. I have also noticed that the
Saturday games tend to be scheduled VERY late in the evening. When I get done
with the post game and head to bed its early morning. I would much prefer that
happening on Friday night.
benjoginko,That's the point of Saturday games. You can use your
whole day going to the game and not wasting time around the house doing things
your wife wants done. You must be a newly-wed. Life is too short to spend time
doing anything other than going to a college football game. Perspective my
As someone who is not only a BYU fan, but also a fan of college football in
general, I love having BYU games on Thursday or Friday. That way on Thursday or
Friday I can focus completely on the BYU game, and then on Saturday I can spend
the whole day paying attention to multiple games at once. When BYU plays on
Saturday, I focus almost completely on the BYU game when it is on (watching
college football is a hobby, but watching BYU football is a passion), and
sometimes miss parts of other good games that I otherwise would have caught.
Non-Saturday games help me have a bigger overall college football experience
those weeks. However, I am glad there are also BYU games on Saturdays and can
usually catch the highlights of other good games online. It is a good balance.