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Published: Friday, April 11 2014 2:50 p.m. MDT

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California Steve
Hanford, CA

One time a misdemeanor and get the guy some help. Sixteen times a felony and do time.

Witty Username
Saratoga Springs, UT

Recently married too. I feel really bad for his wife and family. Hopefully this guy can get help and get his life back on track.

Kaladin
Greeley, CO

If he is indeed the perp that committed these heinous acts, I feel very sorry for his wife in addition to the victims.

Cougar 4 Life
Provo, UT

This is extremely hard to believe. Isn't he supposed to be innocent until proven guilty? I have known him for 10 years and do not believe this. I hope he has a good lawyer when this is proven to be untrue. The picture proves nothing. This is a travesty if it is false!!!

Nan BW
ELder, CO

This is just sad. He probably has all kinds of potential to be a responsible person, but this will make it hard for him to do so. Maybe help with make a difference, we hope.

Itsme2
SLC, UT

Cougar, and if it is proven true, then it's not a travesty to him but it IS a travesty to the women he attacked.

Kelliebelle66
West Jordan, UT

Cougar 4 Life, I hope he has a good lawyer too and gets a fair trial. Police have been investigating this for a long time and obviously they have more evidence than just that photograph because it alone would not give them enough evidence for charging him. It is true that he is innocent until proven guilty and that is how people should look at him under the law. But remember, most people who do these types of crimes often surprise those who know them. Look at Ted Bundy. He used to walk girls out to their cars at night at the U of U when he was actually the killer that had the women scared to walk alone. Men who do bad things often have nice faces and nice manners. And people who also participate in this type of behavior often escalate to bigger things because they need more to get that excitement they are craving. Hopefully if he is the perpetrator he will get help and get this behavior nipped in the bud. I was groped in high school and back then people considered it just a boys will be boys prank. It is a crime with consequences.

Logit
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Wow! Banned from all university properties "permanently" and evicted from his apartment because the university simply knew "charges were pending" in this, a misdemeanor? Sounds like a big reaction heaped onto someone who's technically still just a suspect.

ManInTheMiddle
SANDY, UT

Innocent until proven guilty only holds true in a court.
In real life you are guilty as soon as your heart commits the crime. You're guilty long long long before you ever get to trial.

estreetshuffle
Window Rock, AZ

I was instructed to redit my comment because it was judged offensive. I was just relaying what was written in the newspaper story I read when I lived in Columbus OH. Without offending anyone, this activity will lead to bad consequences and danger; the danger is up to you to imagine.

I know it. I Live it. I Love it.
Provo, UT

We really should look at the positive in this.

1) The slapping, tapping, etc. could have turned worse. It was apparently stopped before that.
2) If he's charged and sentenced with something that will help him change, and not isolate him as "born a certain way", then we can help a man repair his life. If there's hope of prevention, that hope should be fed.
3) Doing so would help women in the end.
4) Doing so would help his family have the chance to recover and remain intact if they so choose.

We can feed hate or feed hope. I vote for the latter personally. But my only point is that rather than be outraged, and feed being offended. He isn't Ted Bundy, so I wouldn't treat him like it. We should simply look at this proactively because unlike so many other cases- we've stopped something at a point where hope may still exist.

hamaca
Baton Rouge, LA

"Wow! Banned from all university properties "permanently" and evicted from his apartment because the university simply knew "charges were pending" in this, a misdemeanor? Sounds like a big reaction heaped onto someone who's technically still just a suspect."

If it is proven in court that he is guilty, and in the meantime he committed more such acts on campus, the university could certainly be a target legal action for not have taken appropriate measures to protect students. Entities these days have do all they can to avoid potential liability.

ImaUteFan
West Jordan, UT

Cougar - You just really never know what a person is capable of doing because you don't live inside their head.

I'm not saying that he is innocent or guilty but to say someone would never do something . . . well, even those we think we know will surprise us from time to time.

wendell
provo, UT

I know this young man and his fine family on a personal level, and have for many years. It's very hard for me to even fathom that he might be guilty, and I hope he is not. All I am sure about is that I will be praying for everyone involved in this situation.

tmlr
Provo, UT

I know Nate and have for the last few years. I find it hard to image that he would do this. He is one of the last people I would ever imagine in this situation. I honestly don't think I will believe it until I see a video that actually shows that it is him .... that has good quality to it. I hope the video they say they used is better quality than the one they have been showing. Nate has always been someone that I looked up to for his cheery and contagious attitude.

TimBehrend
Auckland NZ, 00

It's hardly a heinous crime when one person slaps or taps or touches another person while zipping past. Nor do a number of misdemeanors add up to a felony. Both are defined by statute. The behaviour is disturbing, no question. The overreaction of some is equally so.

hamaca
Baton Rouge, LA

"It's hardly a heinous crime when one person slaps or taps or touches another person while zipping past. Nor do a number of misdemeanors add up to a felony. Both are defined by statute. The behaviour is disturbing, no question. The overreaction of some is equally so."

How would you like it if your daughter was groped in certain places by some stranger while she was out for a walk in what is normally deemed to be a safe area?

Brahmabull
sandy, ut

People need to stop minimizing the crimes he committed. He has done it numerous times. Not all cases were a quick 'tap' on the buttocks. It is much more serious then that. He would have eventually been bored with that and it would have escalated to something even worse. I am not saying this guy is the guy who did it, that is for the police and a jury to decide. If it is I am sure he has a rough road ahead of him.

Laura Bilington
Maple Valley, WA

I have no idea if this man is innocent or guilty.

But I wonder about the legality or morality of kicking this guy out of his school and his housing before he has even gone to trial, let alone been convicted. The law says he is innocent until proven guilty. The 11th Article of Faith says that the Church believes in obeying the law. Perhaps that 11th Article should be amended to read .."except when we don't like the law. Then we appeal it or ignore it".

UGradBYUfan
Snowflake, AZ

hamaca - What you are saying is true. He has not been proven guilty. But with that said, there is reasonable evidence (see video) that he is guilty and to insure the safety of other individuals, it is wise to remove him from campus until he can be cleared. I do agree that he should be be tried first before banning for life.

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