You gotta love that BYU-ESPN partnership. Fans can watch the Cougars on TV
wherever they play. And now that the BCS has gone away, there's only one
way to make it to the final four...and that is to win. All of a sudden
everybody's on equal footing to make the playoffs. You have to win. And
BYU will probably have to win them all to get there. And that's okay,
because there won't be anybody there with more than one loss. Go
My congratulations to the Boise State Broncos for honoring it's contract to
play the Cougars inspite of the beating it took from them last yearThat is
totally unlike another local team who now appears somewhat afraid of the
Cougars, even though they've pulled out a few fortunate wins against them
lately. The game stats (which favored the Cougars) prove those wins were
somewhat lucky. Breaking a signed contract to play games is never classy...
especially when those games are traditionally considered to be big rivalry
games.Anyway, I whole-heartedly agree with "Scores" about
being fortunate to be able to watch the Cougars wherever they play because of
their great ESPN contract. There isn't another team in the state with as
much viewing accessibility... especially regarding those that don't have
access to the PAC12 channel, which includes everyone who has Direct TV, the
largest satellite company in the country. Very limited indeed. To those of us in
that boat, we can still get occasional score updates of PAC12 games on our
computers or phones.
@ObjectifiedUtah State? That's the only local team with whom BYU had
a contract to be broken?
Unfortunately, for the parity of college football, Chris B is right. There are
currently five 'power' conferences, and only 4 playoff spots. The
likelihood of a non-power conference team making into one of those four slots is
extremely unlikely (sans Notre Dame). Nearly all of the college football experts
have predicted that the playoff system will bring even more exclusivity to the
'haves', while leaving the 'have-nots' more out in the cold
than the old BCS system ever did, or ever could have.
At one point this match-up would have had some appeal...2014...BYU
is loaded...BSU starting over...er...reloading.Taysom stays
healthy...BYU should defeat and in some cases crush teams on the 2014 schedule.
@ Chris B:Since the BYU generates more interest from both Ute and
BYU fans than any other game they play, it's obvious that the BYU game is
still a rivalry regardless of what you say. As they say... just saying otherwise
doesn't change the facts. And since Utah is still not
competitive in the PAC12 (still without a winning conference record), it would
be difficult if not impossible to assert they now have any rivalry there...
unless it's with the other cellar dweller, Colorado, to see who wins bottom
honors each season.Secondly, I talked about only the last 2 games,
not the last 4. I know there was a weird game 4 years ago that got out of hand
and would skew any average scores that included it... just like you are now
trying to do. But the truth is, 3 of the last 4 games were decided by only a
single score. Utah actually lowers BYU's RPI.If you want to go
back beyond 4 games, BYU won 3 of the previous 4 prior to that. So yes, the
pendulum does swing both ways and soon would've again if Utah hadn't
"All of a sudden everybody's on equal footing to make the
You would think that with how respected these teams and fan bases are that they
would get a prime time Saturday slot. Hahaha. Enjoy that trip to Murfreesboro Y
@ Chris:It doesn't matter what power conference any team
belongs to if they aren't competitive. And since Utah still hasn't had
a single winning conference record since joining the PAC12, they aren't
relative to whatever their conference does nationally. It's one thing to
belong to a power conference. It's an entirely different thing to be
competitive in it. That is something Utah has become painfully aware of. Also, there isn't hardly a team in the nation that doesn't
play multiple non-conference games each and every season. So to use that as an
excuse to drop the BYU game is extremely weak... just like Utah is within their
conference. Utah has actually been dropping BYU's strength of schedule.Utah would be better off playing more non-conference games, just so they
can occasionally remember what a winning record feels like and let each group of
players experience a single bowl game during their collegiate careers. The
current group of Ute non-seniors may never get to experience those things at the
rate things are going.BYU's schedule isn't as tough, but
at least they have reason for optimism.
@ romeisn'tburning:To set your mind at ease, please know that
BYU will be playing in plenty of traditional Saturday time slots... and on
national TV no less. Too bad other teams in our state can't make the same
claim. So yes, BYU fans are enjoying that trip all the way, since we can watch
our games from anywhere in the entire country... as opposed to a very limited
audience PAC12 channel that Direct TV won't even bother to carry. If a person didn't know better, it could be construed that you are
somewhat jealous of BYU's ESPN contract. Even their Friday night games play
before a bigger audience than almost any of Utah's games. Come to think of
it, I guess you have a right to be envious.
Thanks for the laugh, resident DNews troll... "You aren't
our rival(no power conference team is rivals with non-power conference teams
other than Notre Dame)"Your assertion that "Power
Conference" aren't rivals with nons is just plain wrong (ask Notre Dame
if they have had any rivals over the last few decades). Ironic that you'd
even make that assertion on an article about BYU-BSU (a burgeoning rivalry), two
"non power conference" teams that both have more national respect than
the team you support. "Its not seen as a good win every time we
beat you. Its better we play Michigan or Fresno like we are this year. They are
better opponents and present a greater challenge than beating you once
again"Fresno State is a better opponent? Really? Do you have
any evidence to back that claim? Without looking it up I would guess that
Fresno State has ended a season ranked higher than BYU less than 10 times in
their entire history.
romeisn'tburninglayton, utYou would think that with how
respected these teams and fan bases are that they would get a prime time
Saturday slot. Hahaha. Enjoy that trip to Murfreesboro Y fans!............Remind me how many games the U played on National TV
last year? I think it was just once. I might be wrong, but that is the one game
I was able to see.I know, it is my fault, but I have been with
DirecTV for 17 years and not gonna change because the PAC signed that lucrative
A lot of new Pac 12 byu fans these days. Since byu can't beat Utah they
have to say "Well you can't beat most Pac 12 team"
Veritas:"Remind me how many games the U played on National TV
last year? I think it was just once. I might be wrong, but that is the one game
I was able to see."I was able to watch 11 Utah Football games on
TV back here in Philadelphia, and a 12th in New York while I was visiting my
sister during the Thanksgiving Holiday. So unless New York and Philadelphia are
the only U.S. cities outside of Utah's footprint that gets the Pac-12
Network, then I'd say we had 12 games on "National" TV.And even if we excluded the games broadcast on the Pac-12 Network, there were
still 5 others (USU, OSU, Utah's little brother, UCLA, Oregon) I was able
to watch on basic cable.And for what it's worth, for all the
"national" broadcasts the cougars got last season, the only game I
actually watched was the one were we chalked up our 4th consecutive win in the
series, and 9th over these past dozen years, and left you and your boys eagerly
anticipating your epic matchup the following week vs. Middle Tennessee.Of which NOBODY watched.
Veritas Aequitas: Sorry, I have to correct you. St. Mary's was the *fourth
place* team in the WCC this year. San Francisco was in third...
Lifelong UteSalt Lake City, UTA lot of new Pac 12 byu fans
these days...............All are posting on an article
about BYU and BSU...
We have a national following and we will throttle Boise this year.
Objectified - Why did you pick only the last 2 byu/Utah games? You
wouldn't want that game 3 years ago to really hurt your argument huh?
Chris BAverage score is meaningless in season-to-season
comparisons.14 of the last 17 head-to-head games have been decided
by a touchdown or less in the final minutes or in overtime, with the Utes
winning a slight majority (8 of 14) of those close games; overwhelming proof
that the series has been extremely competitive for the last 17 years.The fact that BYU holds a 10-6-1 advantage in better record and a 9-8
advantage in ranking is further proof that Utah's so-called
"domination" over the last 17 years is nothing but a crimson-colored
pipe dreamTop 25 RankingsBYU 6Utah 5AP Top
25 RankingsBYU 5Utah 4Conference ChampionshipsBYU
4Utah 411+ Win SeasonsBYU 3Utah 2BowlsBYU 12Utah 11And lets not forget, the cutoff year
is 1997, the year AFTER BYU won the Cotton Bowl and finished #5 in both polls
with a 14-1 record.
I am personally tired of hearing that the PAC is a power conference. Sure they
have one or two good teams out of 12. Lots of conferences have several good
teams. the only true power conference is the SEC. All other conferences are
simply just ordinary conferences.Now if you want to talk
power-independents then we can include BYU and Notre Dame in the
conversation.Utah will be a bottom tier team in an ordinary conference and
will continue to struggle in getting to a quality bowl game for years to come.
@ Chris B"Dear BYU you are not our rival, okay? Stop thinking
you are."Then stop commenting on BYU comment boards. Your
actions are not consistent to what your saying. Your obsession with BYU along
with a few of your friends on these boards show that it's still a rivalry
to you. BYU centered articles and their comments always outnumber almost
anything else on the DN and the funny thing is half of those comments are
usually from Ute fans (trolls).
A couple of random responses.Rivalry - Until Ute fans post more
comments in the Denver Post about the Buffs than U do about BYU in the DNews,
BYU is still your rival, whether U admit it or not.Playoffs - BYU
has almost the same chance of getting into the Playoffs as U. The U will need a
perfect record to have a shot at the Top 4, so will BYU. If Utah has a perfect
record (unlikely for the foreseeable future), U would likely get an invite. For
BYU, it depends on the schedule.Scheduling - BYU's schedule
last year was comparable to most "power" conference schools. A perfect
season with a schedule like that would probably earn BYU a spot in the
playoffs.BYU's schedule this year is weaker. A perfect season
with this schedule would likely earn BYU a much better bowl game, but probably
not a playoff spot.Exposure - The PAC Network is not a national
broadcast. ESPN is. Subscription to the PAC Network is most limited to PAC
fans, and not very many of them.
@ChrisSo you want to pretend the 54-10 didn't happen and just take
the average of the others?LOLYa, if only
"averages" worked that way huh?Well, Chris, clearly you
don't understand basic statistics. The mean is heavily influenced by
extremes. If we're computing average win margin, a 54-10 would swing the
mean way up. In this discussion you should probably use the median which finds
the midpoint of a distribution. Realtors, for example use the median because a
few 10 million dollar house sales would skew the mean way up. Likewise,
financial reports typically use the median.I suggest you recompute
your historical scores using the median of the last, say, 20 years. That will
give you a much better forecast than the mean would be. On the other hand,
I'd do a stochastic model, predicting from the win margin distribution,
giving a probability of winning the next game.I've seen every
Utah game televised recently and everyone but the 54-10 was won by some
And how often do you see utah matching up with ANY team by ESPN for national TV
exposure - the trotting utes command no respect from the Big Boys of TV. LOL.
Love that Chris B is still talking about the 54-10 game. If we are really going
to bring up the past...how about we talk about 1984? Or all the BEATINGS the U
took from 1970-2007? LOL yourself. Hilarious.
When fighting for last place in the PAC 12, every one above you is a rival so
Utah has lots of rivals. For those outside of Utah, BYU's playing the U is
a non-issue, as in few people care if they are a rival or not or even if they
play. The standing room only at RES when BYU is on the schedule really answers
the question about importance.
4-5, 3-6, 2-7I'm really liking these Boise / BYU matchups. Keep
them coming!And now a message to the detractors....Bowl-less, Bowl-less, and 2014? LOLPretty funny when U Ute fans
have realized the only real games worth commenting about are BYU.Thanks for U're support! And that 'power conference' smack
really means something coming from Ute fans.
I'm so completely sick of every single BYU sports article being taken over
with a juvenile spitting contest between a few obsessed fans. Personally,
I'd like us all to ignore that garbage and just maybe keep an intelligent
conversation about the actual topic at hand. Now, people may think this
game should favor BYU but I'm not sure I buy that. BSU may have a new head
coach but he's very familiar to the program having been an assistant just a
few years ago. He is really a quality coach heading to an ideal situation for
him. There's also a history of teams over-performing with a new coach just
to show they "still have it". BSU is that type of team that always
plays with a chip on their shoulder so I would not write off this game at all.
I would hope BYU could win this one regardless of when it's played but
expect a good game. I just wish BSU had a bigger stadium so I could actually
get tickets and drive up for it. Maybe I can still see about getting some. Go
BYU fans, this is your best chance to have a breakout year. Even with Van Noy
gone, I see BYU's defense as being potentially dominant in every game they
play (when I match up their defense with their schedule).Then the
offense should be much more polished in Anae's second season. The roster?
Despite losing Cody Hoffman, BYU should be able to dose up Jamal's run
total in a heavy run attack that will turn Taysom Hill lose as well. If Hill
continues to become a better passer and complete player, then the offense could
set fire (again on that weak schedule). Schedule aside, if you blow
opponents out, build confidence, and show up on a few bigger games, then a BCS
bowl is possible with BYU's brand name which overcomes the weaker schedule.
But the Cougars have to win win out. BYU's opportunity has never been so
constructed. Tom Holmoe's scheduling should be applauded unless you get
bored playing Idaho Tech.
Ha ha, an article about a Friday night game on ESPN vs BSU and all that the byu
"fans" can talk about is Utah and the PAC 12.
I agree, Utah and BYU are no longer rivals. Colorado is Utah's rival now.
By the way, is the Great Rocky Mountain Pillow Fight in Salt Lake or Boulder
@ Naval Vet:Nice to see you back after a lengthy absence, unless
you've been using a different online names like Chris B keeps doing. Why do
Ute fans keep hiding like that?Speaking of "for what it's
worth"... I'm totally certain that almost no one cares how many BYU
games you watched last year. But since it was so few, that only shows you are
not a true football pundit. A true pundit enjoys good football wherever and
whenever it's played. And BYU's 5 game win streak last season truly
was good football. In fact, that single win streak matched Utah's total
wins for their entire season. Based on which Utah games you claim
you were able to watch (still doubtful about that), you watched more losers than
winners. That must've been hard to do. And unfortunately, the odds are that
you have to endure a similar fate again this season. You should open up and
watch some BYU games next season to help balance things out. That way,
you'd also have a team to watch during the bowl season. How
many fans watched Utah's game against Weber State? No coverage whatsoever!
RE: ekute"Ha ha, an article about a Friday night game on ESPN vs
BSU and all that the byu "fans" can talk about is Utah and the PAC
12."Sorry, but that's simply not true. The desert news
covers both BYU and Utah football. On the last five Utah articles there are a
total of 21 comments. On the last five BYU articles there are 94 total
comments. So the truth is that the only football team in Utah worth talking
about is BYU, and fans from both schools go there to discuss and talk smack. It
may be that the articles about Utah are simply poorly written and not worth
discussing, but I wouldn't know because I only read and discuss BYU
articles. It is true that Utah is forging a new rivalry with
Colorado and BYU is forging new rivalries with both Boise State and Notre Dame.
I like the BSU matchup--they are a solid program, have national respect, and
they bring their A game. Plus, they're not afraid to play us... like
another school north of Provo. Go Cougs!
ekute"Ha ha, an article about a Friday night game on ESPN vs BSU
and all that the BYU "fans" can talk about is Utah and the PAC
12."Why are Utah "fans" even trolling this article, it
has nothing to do with U?
Even though we rarely win games against ranked opponents and never beat Utah, we
are still ranked really high and people watch our games.
We are more good than byu everytime even though we never get to go to bowl games
anymore and nobody gets to watch our games.Go Utes!
In the last 4 games against former/current top dogs of the MWC:BYU
is 0-4 vs UtahBYU is 0-4 vs TCUBYU is 1-3 vs BoiseGood
luck, I think you have a chance to accomplish what Utah, TCU, and Boise did
multiple times in the BCS era... your Quest.
Chris,"So you want to pretend the 54-10 didn't happen and just
take the average of the others?LOL"I love how how
ute fans love their one dominating win and spin their dominance. You can take
away one 40 point win back when BYU won 20 games in a row vs utah and it barely
puts a dent in the average MOV. Those were dominating wins and it wasn't
"BYU is 0-4 vs UtahBYU is 0-4 vs TCUBYU is 1-3 vs Boise"Those records look similar to all of utah's opponents in the PAC.
Only one win or two vs. any of them and lots of 0's. Even BYU has 1-2 wins
vs. some of those teams in the last 4 tries namely UCLA, Oregon State, Oregon,
Washington, and many others. BYU has beaten at least half of the PAC lately.
Try comparing your own conference before looking at an old conference. It only
shows you live in the past. I would too if my team couldn't even make a
Uteology"In the last 4 games against former/current top dogs of
the MWC:..."blah, blah, blahYet, somehow, BYU won TWO MWC championships, to only ONE for Utah.BYU had THREE
Top 15, 11+ win seasons, to only ONE for Utah.BYU had FOUR AP Top 25
finishes, to only TWO for Utah.Obviously, beating BYU doesn't
mean much if U can't beat the conference bottom dwellers - UNLV, New
Mexico, Wyoming, Colorado State, Colorado, and Washington State.When
you compare overall results, BYU has clearly outperformed Utah.btw,
it's laughable that you decided to include Boise State, since BYU beat the
Broncos last season, while the Utes have NEVER beaten the Broncos.
Any D-1 team that wins out under the new playoff system will be in the playoff
conversations. It doesn't matter if they are in a conference or not. That
is precisely why every team will be on equal footing to make the playoffs. The
Y and u are both trying to do the same thing...win out! Don't see it
happening with u anytime soon.
@chrisb... 11' Utah 54- BYU 10... 04' 52-21... ouch, those were two
bad losses for the Cougs... But tell me what do you think of these??? 73' 22-4674' 20-4875' 20-5177' 8-3879' 0-2780' 6-5681' 28-5683' 7-5589' 31-70 (my personal favorite)91' 17-4896'
17-37These are some scores of some BYU blow outs against the big bad
utes...Head to head, since Edwards took over as head coach at BYU
the Cougs hold an advantage of wins to losses against the utes of 26-16... The
utes hold a 5-3 edge over the past 8 years but BYU has finished the season
ranked higher in the average of "Power Polls) 5 of those 8 years...To say that Fresno State is better for power rankings than BYU is
ridiculous... BYU is rated nationally as having a top 20 storied program... BYU
is rated as having a high market following nationwide and even gets higher
television ratings in nearly all pac12 markets than the utes do... Sorry.
@StrikerThere is a difference between playing PAC 12 schools each
week (Utah) and one or two a year penciled in between cupcakes(BYU). Before the
grind of the conference schedule in the PAC 12, Utah had a better record against
BCS schools than BYU, TCU, and Boise State for 10 years (2000-2010). Go ahead
and take the time to look it up. Now that Utah and Boise State are in power
conferences, both are below 500 in their winning percentages despite making BCS
bowls and beating BYU back in the MWC days (not long ago).
gdog3finallyThere's a difference between playing a conference
schedule where you get to know the locations and personalities of the teams and
know pretty much what you will be facing every week, and playing a national
schedule against teams from Virginia to Texas to California every week,
traveling across several time zones and playing in different stadiums against
teams with unfamiliar personalities week after week.Since when is
Boise State in a "power conference"? The MWC is simply the WAC of the
80's and 90's minus BYU and Utah.It's laughable that
Utah fans continue to minimize the 2004 and 2008 circumstances under which the
Utes had their only true success in the entire history of their football
program.According to your own spin, the Utes didn't even
deserve to play in a BCS because they padded their record against a weak
schedule of cupcakes.2004 SOS #67 - only three regular season
opponents with winning records2008 SOS #56 - half of their regular season
wins versus cupcakes with 3-9, 5-7, 3-9, 4-8, 4-8, and 2-10 records, only one
road win against a team with a winning record
"Since when is Boise State in a "power conference"?"Amen. Mark May had it right. They would struggle in the MWC, and the best
teams aren't even there anymore. MWC is the equivalent of the Sun Belt and
MAC now. A few okay teams and a lot of bad teams.
Ahhh. The Great Chris has spoken:"1. You aren't our rival
(no power conference team is rivals with non-power conference teams other than
Notre Dame)."Please inform your fellow travelers in the crimson
crew. All of the Ute fan posts (except for a few reasonable gentlemen)
certainly contradict your declaration from on High."2. Its not
seen as a good win every time we beat you. Its better we play Michigan or Fresno
like we are this year. They are better opponents and present a greater challenge
than beating you once again."Again the facts contradict your
assertion. ALL of the BCS giants ALWAYS load up one or two Appalachian States
(ooops, MI such messed up that one) to "pad" their victories. If BYU is
sooo weak, they would surely help you get to the 6-7 wins you'd need to get
to a lower tier bowl. Given the recent history on the Hill any win is a
@gdogUtah does have a slightly better record against BCS Schools for
the past 10 years than BYU... Utah is 23-23 (a 50% win ratio... BYU is 16-18
with a 47.1% win ratio). .If we look at just pac12 opponents from
the time Edwards coached at BYU to the present Utah is a miserable 28-53 (a
34.6% win ratio) while BYU is 29-32 (A 47.5% win ratio)... So despite the fact
that Utah has been in the big bad pac12 for 3 full years and despite the fact
that the utes have 20 more games against pac12 opponents than BYU, The Cougs
actually have more pac12 victories and a 13% better winning percentage than the
utes do against their own league opponents... ouch.
BYU would be foolish to ever schedule a 2-for-1 with the utes. There are so many
other, high profile teams in the country that would meet BYU's goals of
exposure than utah. (Like Texas, Notre Dame, and other pac-10 schools and
eastern schools). Why go 2-for-1 with a local "big
conference" bottom-feeder when you can travel the country and play teams in
real stadiums. Win or lose, I'd much rather see BYU go 2-for-1 with teams
that consistently go to bowl games and give players and fans the chance to
travel the country than go to salt lake. In fact, better to go
2-for-1 with those other programs than even 1-for-1 with utah in my opinion- the
current state of this rivalry is just out of control.
@StrikerTrue, Utah and TCU have both struggled to play with mostly MWC
talent in tougher leagues. What's your point BYU would do better in both
leagues just? Laughable!@Rose Bowl call yet?Your quest
wasn't for AP #15 ranking or MWC title. Again, I think BYU has a great
chance to finally achieve their Quest since they don't have to play Utah
(0-4) or TCU (0-4) and only have to deal with Boise (1-3). By losing to Texas
at 11-1 BYU will be BCS bound.@poymanUtah and TCU when
in the MWC had the highest winning percentage against BCS teams, playing 1-3 BCS
teams each year. Playing 8-10 teams is a big difference, you'll find out
when you get your Big 12 invite.
UteologyUtah fans need to get over their "power conference/BCS
team" snobbery.Any fan who claims that a power conference bottom
dweller like Colorado or Washington State is better than the teams at the top of
the non-power conferences, is simply fooling themselves and making a mockery of
Utah's 2004 and 2008 seasons.Houston would have wiped the floor
with Utah, Colorado, Washington State and California last season. Utah
couldn't handle lowly Utah State in Logan in 2012 and the Utes barely got
past the Aggies at home in 2013. The Washington State team that ended
Utah's bowl hopes couldn't handle Colorado State in the 2013 New
Mexico Bowl and finished with a losing record.Despite a couple of
narrow wins in two of the three BYU-Utah meetings during the Independent/Pac 12
era, the reason the Utes haven't gone bowling the last two years,
isn't because of your rigorous PAC 12 schedule, it's because U simply
haven't been good enough to beat mediocre teams like Washington State.
Uteology"Utah and TCU when in the MWC had the highest winning
percentage against BCS teams, playing 1-3 BCS teams each year."What was Utah's home and road record versus "BCS" teams with
winning records?The truth is, the vast majority of Utah's wins
versus "BCS" teams came against "BCS" teams with losing
records.Sure, you went on the road and beat a lousy Michigan team,
but when U faced a decent Notre Dame team in South Bend, U got slaughtered.When you pull back the covers and examine just how good your
"BCS" opponents, you discover that most of Utah's "BCS"
wins came against mediocre to bad "BCS" teams, including Pittsburgh in
the Fiesta Bowl, a team that finished in a 4-way tie for first in the weak Big
Least.The second truth is, not much has changed since the Utes
joined the PAC 12. Almost all of your wins have come against mediocre to bad PAC
12 opponents, with only ONE win in three full seasons coming against a PAC 12
team with a winning record.When are U going to stop blaming your
schedule for your mediocrity?
UteologyIt's funny how when BYU beats a team like Texas or
Oklahoma, Utah fans flock to the rankings and records to carefully examine just
how "good" the Texas or Oklahoma team BYU beat really was and whether
BYU's opponent was operating with any sort of handicap, such as an injured
QB.Yet, Utah fans have absolutely no problem throwing out records
against "BCS" teams and just expecting us to believe that every Utah win
versus a "BCS" team is an amazingly astounding quality win.The inconsistency on the hill when it comes to comparing BYU and Utah
opponents is laughable.Here's a clue:The Houston
team that BYU beat on the road last season was MUCH better than many of the PAC
12 teams Utah played. That's not hyperbole, that's a fact. And the
same could be said of many of BYU's non-power conference opponents.
@TheSportsAuthorityThe reason Utah hasn't made bowl games
playing a MUCH tougher PAC-12 schedule is lack of P12 depth and key injuries.
The same key QB issues also occurred in the MWC, see 2009 and 2010, Utah
finished 10-3 both years.@Truth Machine: "The Houston team that
BYU beat on the road last season was MUCH better than many of the PAC 12 teams
Utah played. That's not hyperbole, that's a fact."The
only teams Houston was better than was Cal and Colorado according to Sagarin:#24 Arizona#29 Oregon State#32 Utah#34 BYU#41
Utah State#50 BYU
Cougar fans claiming that Utah is "scared" to play their beloved band of
bros and hokey monikers.... You should be thanking your lucky stars
that you don't have to get up for the big game and act foolishly during
"Holy War Week," only to be disappointed for the 5th straight game (and
immediately pretend it never mattered to you). 2016 will come soon enough. In
the meantime, focus getting up for nationally televised sleepers such as Savanah
St, UNLV, Midd Tenn, Virginia, etc.
In 2013: BYU was 2-5 vs power conference teams.In 2014: only 3 games
vs power conferences (Cal worst in Pac-12, Virginia worst in ACC)When you win 9 or 10 games, remember that Bingham High was 14-0 in 2013 with a
similar schedule.Will over Skill(we stink but we try hard)