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Published: Thursday, April 10 2014 11:45 a.m. MDT

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Scores
Idaho Falls, ID

You gotta love that BYU-ESPN partnership. Fans can watch the Cougars on TV wherever they play. And now that the BCS has gone away, there's only one way to make it to the final four...and that is to win. All of a sudden everybody's on equal footing to make the playoffs. You have to win. And BYU will probably have to win them all to get there. And that's okay, because there won't be anybody there with more than one loss.
Go Cougars....and WIN!

Objectified
Tooele, UT

My congratulations to the Boise State Broncos for honoring it's contract to play the Cougars inspite of the beating it took from them last year
That is totally unlike another local team who now appears somewhat afraid of the Cougars, even though they've pulled out a few fortunate wins against them lately. The game stats (which favored the Cougars) prove those wins were somewhat lucky. Breaking a signed contract to play games is never classy... especially when those games are traditionally considered to be big rivalry games.

Anyway, I whole-heartedly agree with "Scores" about being fortunate to be able to watch the Cougars wherever they play because of their great ESPN contract. There isn't another team in the state with as much viewing accessibility... especially regarding those that don't have access to the PAC12 channel, which includes everyone who has Direct TV, the largest satellite company in the country. Very limited indeed. To those of us in that boat, we can still get occasional score updates of PAC12 games on our computers or phones.

Utes22
SPRINGVILLE, UT

@Objectified
Utah State? That's the only local team with whom BYU had a contract to be broken?

theDailyObserver
Salt Lake City, Utah

Unfortunately, for the parity of college football, Chris B is right. There are currently five 'power' conferences, and only 4 playoff spots. The likelihood of a non-power conference team making into one of those four slots is extremely unlikely (sans Notre Dame). Nearly all of the college football experts have predicted that the playoff system will bring even more exclusivity to the 'haves', while leaving the 'have-nots' more out in the cold than the old BCS system ever did, or ever could have.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

At one point this match-up would have had some appeal...

2014...BYU is loaded...BSU starting over...er...reloading.

Taysom stays healthy...BYU should defeat and in some cases crush teams on the 2014 schedule.

Objectified
Tooele, UT

@ Chris B:

Since the BYU generates more interest from both Ute and BYU fans than any other game they play, it's obvious that the BYU game is still a rivalry regardless of what you say. As they say... just saying otherwise doesn't change the facts.

And since Utah is still not competitive in the PAC12 (still without a winning conference record), it would be difficult if not impossible to assert they now have any rivalry there... unless it's with the other cellar dweller, Colorado, to see who wins bottom honors each season.

Secondly, I talked about only the last 2 games, not the last 4. I know there was a weird game 4 years ago that got out of hand and would skew any average scores that included it... just like you are now trying to do. But the truth is, 3 of the last 4 games were decided by only a single score. Utah actually lowers BYU's RPI.

If you want to go back beyond 4 games, BYU won 3 of the previous 4 prior to that. So yes, the pendulum does swing both ways and soon would've again if Utah hadn't chickened out.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

"All of a sudden everybody's on equal footing to make the playoffs."

That's hilarious.

romeisn'tburning
layton, ut

You would think that with how respected these teams and fan bases are that they would get a prime time Saturday slot. Hahaha. Enjoy that trip to Murfreesboro Y fans!

Objectified
Tooele, UT

@ Chris:

It doesn't matter what power conference any team belongs to if they aren't competitive. And since Utah still hasn't had a single winning conference record since joining the PAC12, they aren't relative to whatever their conference does nationally. It's one thing to belong to a power conference. It's an entirely different thing to be competitive in it. That is something Utah has become painfully aware of.

Also, there isn't hardly a team in the nation that doesn't play multiple non-conference games each and every season. So to use that as an excuse to drop the BYU game is extremely weak... just like Utah is within their conference. Utah has actually been dropping BYU's strength of schedule.

Utah would be better off playing more non-conference games, just so they can occasionally remember what a winning record feels like and let each group of players experience a single bowl game during their collegiate careers. The current group of Ute non-seniors may never get to experience those things at the rate things are going.

BYU's schedule isn't as tough, but at least they have reason for optimism.

Tators
Hyrum, UT

@ romeisn'tburning:

To set your mind at ease, please know that BYU will be playing in plenty of traditional Saturday time slots... and on national TV no less. Too bad other teams in our state can't make the same claim. So yes, BYU fans are enjoying that trip all the way, since we can watch our games from anywhere in the entire country... as opposed to a very limited audience PAC12 channel that Direct TV won't even bother to carry.

If a person didn't know better, it could be construed that you are somewhat jealous of BYU's ESPN contract. Even their Friday night games play before a bigger audience than almost any of Utah's games. Come to think of it, I guess you have a right to be envious.

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

Thanks for the laugh, resident DNews troll...

"You aren't our rival(no power conference team is rivals with non-power conference teams other than Notre Dame)"

Your assertion that "Power Conference" aren't rivals with nons is just plain wrong (ask Notre Dame if they have had any rivals over the last few decades). Ironic that you'd even make that assertion on an article about BYU-BSU (a burgeoning rivalry), two "non power conference" teams that both have more national respect than the team you support.

"Its not seen as a good win every time we beat you. Its better we play Michigan or Fresno like we are this year. They are better opponents and present a greater challenge than beating you once again"

Fresno State is a better opponent? Really? Do you have any evidence to back that claim? Without looking it up I would guess that Fresno State has ended a season ranked higher than BYU less than 10 times in their entire history.

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

romeisn'tburning
layton, ut

You would think that with how respected these teams and fan bases are that they would get a prime time Saturday slot. Hahaha. Enjoy that trip to Murfreesboro Y fans!

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Remind me how many games the U played on National TV last year? I think it was just once. I might be wrong, but that is the one game I was able to see.

I know, it is my fault, but I have been with DirecTV for 17 years and not gonna change because the PAC signed that lucrative TV deal,

Lifelong Ute
Salt Lake City, UT

A lot of new Pac 12 byu fans these days. Since byu can't beat Utah they have to say "Well you can't beat most Pac 12 team"

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Veritas:

"Remind me how many games the U played on National TV last year? I think it was just once. I might be wrong, but that is the one game I was able to see."

I was able to watch 11 Utah Football games on TV back here in Philadelphia, and a 12th in New York while I was visiting my sister during the Thanksgiving Holiday. So unless New York and Philadelphia are the only U.S. cities outside of Utah's footprint that gets the Pac-12 Network, then I'd say we had 12 games on "National" TV.

And even if we excluded the games broadcast on the Pac-12 Network, there were still 5 others (USU, OSU, Utah's little brother, UCLA, Oregon) I was able to watch on basic cable.

And for what it's worth, for all the "national" broadcasts the cougars got last season, the only game I actually watched was the one were we chalked up our 4th consecutive win in the series, and 9th over these past dozen years, and left you and your boys eagerly anticipating your epic matchup the following week vs. Middle Tennessee.

Of which NOBODY watched.

fan in orem
Orem, UT

Veritas Aequitas: Sorry, I have to correct you. St. Mary's was the *fourth place* team in the WCC this year. San Francisco was in third...

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

Lifelong Ute
Salt Lake City, UT

A lot of new Pac 12 byu fans these days.

..............

All are posting on an article about BYU and BSU...

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

We have a national following and we will throttle Boise this year.

Lifelong Ute
Salt Lake City, UT

Objectified -

Why did you pick only the last 2 byu/Utah games? You wouldn't want that game 3 years ago to really hurt your argument huh?

BlueCoug
Orem, UT

Chris B

Average score is meaningless in season-to-season comparisons.

14 of the last 17 head-to-head games have been decided by a touchdown or less in the final minutes or in overtime, with the Utes winning a slight majority (8 of 14) of those close games; overwhelming proof that the series has been extremely competitive for the last 17 years.

The fact that BYU holds a 10-6-1 advantage in better record and a 9-8 advantage in ranking is further proof that Utah's so-called "domination" over the last 17 years is nothing but a crimson-colored pipe dream

Top 25 Rankings
BYU 6
Utah 5

AP Top 25 Rankings
BYU 5
Utah 4

Conference Championships
BYU 4
Utah 4

11+ Win Seasons
BYU 3
Utah 2

Bowls
BYU 12
Utah 11

And lets not forget, the cutoff year is 1997, the year AFTER BYU won the Cotton Bowl and finished #5 in both polls with a 14-1 record.

Down under
Salt Lake City, UT

I am personally tired of hearing that the PAC is a power conference. Sure they have one or two good teams out of 12. Lots of conferences have several good teams. the only true power conference is the SEC. All other conferences are simply just ordinary conferences.
Now if you want to talk power-independents then we can include BYU and Notre Dame in the conversation.
Utah will be a bottom tier team in an ordinary conference and will continue to struggle in getting to a quality bowl game for years to come.

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