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Published: Wednesday, April 9 2014 11:55 p.m. MDT

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LovelyDeseret
Gilbert, AZ

I am so glad Utah is preventing these adoptions. Good, strong, healthy families are of the most importance to Utah.

Bob K
portland, OR

What happens to the kids?
It's not like the Gay folks are stealing children for whom dozens of other loving homes of married opposite sex couples were waiting. Gay people often adopt the "hard to place" kids.

Everything Reyes does seems to be to please the lds church and its most conservative members.

No justice for the kids who must wait?

No justice for the parents longing to have them?

Liberty For All
Cedar, UT

I'm so glad I live in a state that looks out for and demonstrates that they care about the best interests of children. Thank you Sean Reyes, you have my vote and many other Utahans who care about real families. You can count on my financial and political support on your upcoming campaign. The gay agenda will be defeated.

Karen R.
Houston, TX

Hang in there Leary family. Many "know not what they do," but soon laws will be in place so that your family is protected and supported just as theirs are.

Furry1993
Ogden, UT

@LovelyDeseret 10:50 p.m. April 9, 2014

I am so glad Utah is preventing these adoptions. Good, strong, healthy families are of the most importance to Utah.

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These children already have "good, strong, healthy families" but the state officials are denying both parents in those families legal recognition. Sad for the children involved.

Liberty For All
Cedar, UT

Children deserve a Mom and a Dad.

Our man, Sean Reyes was paying attention to the talks given during conference weekend.

Noodlekaboodle
Poplar Grove, UT

@Libertyforall
Oh, I'm confused, I thought that there was supposed to be a separation of church and state, not state officials taking orders from a religious conference. Honestly, anyone who believes in the rule of law should be disgusted by this. A judge validated these adoptions. It's not Sean Reyes's job to issue his own stay because he doesn't like a ruling, or to deny these people there rights, while trying to get a stay. It's not how it works. Utah's elected officials hatered of gays(you can't justify treating someone like this unless you hate them) is going to make them look foolish after time. You know how people still talk about the LDS church not granting full membership to black people until 1978, ya this is going to look just as bad in 20 years.

10CC
Bountiful, UT

(I'm doubtful my messages will pass the censors, but here goes)

My marriage was previously banned in many states, and the welfare of the kids was put up as a defense of the laws banning marriages between racial groups.

Fortunately, by the time I got married those laws had been outlawed, and though we were warned that people wouldn't accept our marriage and the children would have a tough time, that hasn't happened, and our kids are all on track to be college graduates, successful in life.

If my wife and I had met before 1967, our 26 year marriage and four successful offspring would not have occurred.

Tekakaromatagi
Dammam, Saudi Arabia

"This sicking, demeaning action on the part of the AG illustrates the true nature of those who wish continued state-sponsored bigotry and discrimination."

Don't just say how it is bigoted. Explain how it is bigoted.

If they allow the adoption, a lot of lawyers will say, "They allow adoptions, therefore, they intended for their to be same sex marriage.

I read an essay about a man who was raised by two lesbian mothers. He said that he was socially awkwards because he never had the example of male social skills in his home.
Just last night I read about a court case where a baby was adopted and the mother's female live-in partner sued to have her listed as the child's 'father' on the birth certificate.

People will say here that all a child needs is love. But when the child grows up and finds out that a judge, the state and her mother and mother's partner participated in an obvious fraud that child is not going to trust anyone.

equal protection
Cedar, UT

Michigan findings of fact and conclusions of law:

Every major professional organization in this country whose focus is the health and well-being of children and families has reviewed the data on outcomes for children raised by lesbian and gay couples, including the methods by which the data were collected, and have concluded that these children are not disadvantaged compared to children raised in heterosexual parent households. Organizations expressing support for parenting, adoption, and/or fostering by lesbian and gay couples include (but are not limited to): American Medical Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Psychiatric Association, American Academy of Child and AdolescentPsychiatry, American Psychoanalytic Association, American Psychological Association, Child Welfare League of America, National Association of Social Workers, and the Donaldson Adoption Institute."

The APA unanimously voted in favor of issuing a position statement that research has shown that the adjustment, development, and psychological well-being of children is unrelated to parental sexual orientation and that the children of lesbian and gay parents are as likely as those of heterosexual parents to flourish. Law professor Vivek Sankaran testified that marriage bans destabilizes children raised by same-sex couples in the event the legal parent dies or becomes incapacitated."

Noodlekaboodle
Poplar Grove, UT

@Tekakaromatagi
I can tell you how it's bigoted. Two different judges approved these adoptions. If it's an opposite sex couple than anything else the do in relation to making their adoption official is just a formality, what you really need is a judges approval. But even though a judge approved it, and there is no legal basis to not go through with these adoptions, the state is denying them the right, even though a stay has not been issued by the courts. The AG's office is only doing it because they don't agree with the lifestyle of these two couples. That's the definition of bigotry my friend.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

So a kid with one gay parent is okay, a kid with two gay parents, that's harmful and must be stopped? Nonsensical logic that is...

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

It's sad to see kids denied good strong healthy families. And, it almost sounds embarrassing to make this argument when single people raise kids. The attorney general, whether on his own volition or because he's being pushed into it, is making what are almost silly arguments.

Objectified
Tooele, UT

@ Bob K and NoodlekaBootle:

Very short sighted to try to blame this common sense action on the LDS church. The Catholic church and lots of other traditional (non-activist) churches are just as opposed to SSM and adoption as the LDS church. Even many conservative athiests remain opposed.

The fact that only 2% of society participates in homosexual relationships indicates they are an aberation to natural man-woman relationships. It's totally understandable why being raised in such an unnatural environment would cause social issues and problems for those children effected.

I tried to put myself in their shoes and I would absolutely abhor being raised without a traditional father and mother family setting. As such, why should I or anyone who feels similarly pretend to feel otherwise just to try to feel politically correct or appease SSM advocates?

Just because one or two activist judges ruled this way doesn't make it right. There was a time when the Supreme Court and many other federal judges ruled that slavery was legal. That certainly didn't make it right. No more so than these 2 judges rulings. And since a silimar ruling is on hold, so should this be.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@Objectified
"I tried to put myself in their shoes and I would absolutely abhor being raised without a traditional father and mother family setting."

These are kids for whom one of the two parents IS their natural parent, the argument isn't same-sex couple as parents or putting the kids elsewhere, the argument is between same-sex couple as parents, or only having one of those gay people as a parent.

Objectified
Tooele, UT

@ Hutterite:

You have absolutely no way of knowing if the SSM couples involved were "good strong healthy families". The only thing you actually know from this article is that they are same-sex couples. The article doesn't validate anything about whether they are good or strong or healthy... and even the term families is a stretch in this situation, since courts all over the country are still trying to make rulings on such highly controversial matters.

As such, your statement once again indicates your inherent ultra-liberal bias in this and other social matters. And where bias is, objectiveness is not.

Ranch
Here, UT

Can anybody honestly say there's "no animus" towards gays here?

Just read the very first comment from LovelyDesert.

Ranch
Here, UT

@Liberty For All;

You seem to think that the AG works for the LDS Church. It doesn't matter what was said in general conference last weekend, the AG is not an LDS lackey (or at least he shouldn't be).

Darrel
Eagle Mountain, UT

So, to those saying that this helps the family..

These kids up for adoption currently have no family. They have two people willing to take full legal responsibility for them, love them as their own and raise them, and you are saying the state Foster Care system is better than that???

They are in the foster system now because there aren't enough people adopting.

You can think whatever you want about what makes a good family, but in this case isn't two moms or two dads better than no moms and no dads?

riverofsun
St.George, Utah

As these DN articles are being bombarded onto us, the eyes of the country and the world are being opened to the "real Utah".
Formerly advertised as a beautiful state abounding with amazing forests, mountains, skiing, hiking, and natural wonders. Everyone has wanted to spend time in Utah.
The state is thought to be filled with loving Mormon people in happy neighborhoods who make visitors feel welcome.
Who wants to venture that this description of Utah will continue?
There is going to be an entirely new way to describe this state...
....and it's no longer going to be "Beautiful and loving".

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