@MountanmanIt’s difficult to resist the temptation to lay into
your comments (esp. the false dichotomies), but I’m feeling a bit Rodney
King-ish today, so… How’s life in beautiful Hayden? We
should have a beer (non-alcoholic?) sometime if I’m ever in the area. Peace brother…
@ eastcoastcoug"They also equate "Bible Haters" with
those who believe it was written by men and contains advice. That's a
pretty mild description of "Hate"."Yes, the choice of
adjectives - "hate" and "antagonistic" - are telling. I'm
reminded of the SSM opponents that complain of being called "haters"
because they are against SSM.The Bible represents a compilation of
some of mankind's earliest writings. I think that's pretty cool. I
also think it's good that more people now feel free to say this when
approached by a pollster.
@ Tyler D. Well, we can start with the 10 commandments and from there we can go
to what Jesus taught is the first and greatest commandment and from there we can
discuss what Jesus told us about the impending judgment day for each of us. If
one accepts that God exists and that His laws define morality for all humanity,
that is a real problem for those who hold to moral relativism. Either God exists
or he doesn't. If He does, then there is no moral relativism. If God does
not exist, then everything we do, everything we learn and everything we
experience is all pointless anyway. If He does exist, then everything I have
experienced in my life, everything I have learned and everything I have loved
belongs to me forever. That, simply put, is why I am a believer! I can not
comprehend that all this creation and all the above is for nothing! Not
lecturing you, just stating why I am compelled to be a believer. The alternative
is very bleak. If I am wrong, what have I lost? If I am right, what do I gain?
@Mountanman – “To believe the Bible one can not believe in moral
relativism and that is a huge problem for some.”Can you
enlighten us on what these absolute morals are in the Bible (and by absolute I
mean true for all people all of the time and God won’t break them)?
To believe the Bible one can not believe in moral relativism and that is a huge
problem for some.
The survey commits one critical error: never ask 2 questions at a time i.e.
"I believe the bible is written by men AND I read it once a week". What
if I believe it is inspired but contains some factual errors and I read it every
day?They also equate "Bible Haters" with those who believe
it was written by men and contains advice. That's a pretty mild description
of "Hate".Rather than defining "Love" by frequency,
why not ask whether people have been inspired by the Bible to do an act of
service, ask forgiveness or be a better person. I'm surprised at how many
of these surveys ask about things that are so inconsequential. "
...and I will shew thee my faith by my works." James 2:19