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Published: Wednesday, April 9 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Hutterite
American Fork, UT

The right has gone out so far, I don't think it can come back.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

If conservatives hope to get people to believe that they stand for social justice then they've got to do something other than double-down on their fundamentally authoritarian and antisocial policy positions.

Attacking our public schools, slashing services to the poor, the sick, the unemployed and the elderly, weakening protections on our air, water and food, denying women control over their own bodies, shamelessly embracing voter suppression and claiming that even larger tax breaks for millionaires are required - all of these things that embody today's conservative movement demonstrate that genuine social justice is not remotely a conservative cause.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"Since he took office, the wealthy have been the only ones to gain ground."

And they have complained loudly all the way to the bank.
Can someone point to any GOP proposals that will not insure that the wealthy gain more ground?

Perhaps, the system is built that in good times, the wealthy will do very very well and the poor and middle class will maintain. In bad times, the wealthy will just do well and the poor and middle class will lose ground.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Wow! What a convolution of notions!

The author certainly did some rearranging of reality to produce that piece of fiction, even coming up with something he calls "real social justice" that bears NO resemblance to real social justice.

Right Wingers have NEVER promoted social justice. Right Wingers ALWAYS support a status quo that strongly favors the wealthy.

For Right Wingers, the rich deserve to become richer at the expense of everyone else because that's just the way it is. The author asks why income disparity has grown during Obama's term in office. It’s because of INERTIA. Reagonomics is STILL in effect. The system is STILL rigged to favor the rich. The highest earners STILL don’t pay nearly enough in taxes. It is the wealthy with all that extra money lying around who could afford to buy under-priced properties, and then make billions when the market recovered.

And what makes him think that Conservatives have a monopoly on “faith, family, community and work?” That’s a conceit so ridiculous on its face that it serves best to demonstrate just how out of touch with reality Conservatives really are.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Does the Deseret News get PAID to run this stuff?,
or
Do they pay the Lobby Groups to run this stuff?

Either way,
It's propoganda.

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happy2bhere
clearfield, UT

Mr. Brooks

That was so well stated (and true) that I predict you will get a slew of personal attacks from the left. Or, they will say that all the problems you pointed out that the progressive left have not been able to fix will be the Republicans fault.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

I'm guessing that one of these days, the DN will publish some letters from left-leaning "think tanks." I won't hold my breath.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

From the piece: "The simple fact is that intentions don’t equal results. The left’s policies aren’t working — which means it’s time for conservatives to step up to the social justice plate."

The simple fact is that the left's policies haven't been tried. The right has managed to obstruct them all. The minimum wage has not gone up. There is no financial transactions tax. Glass-Steagall has not been reinstated. There was no jobs program. There is no infrastructure bank. etc., etc., etc.

We have a president who has governed more conservatively than Richard Nixon ever did, and an opposition that calls him a communist for it.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

This piece is a remarkable example of Orwellian doublespeak. Mr. Brooks' forces have conducted a war on the poor for 30 years and now maintain they're the saviors of the poor? Who exploits the poor and creates dependency more than Walmart? Who exported all the American jobs to the slave quarters of Asia? Who nearly destroyed the US economy in 2008 out of sheer greed? No, it wasn't Obama...
As for Mr. Obama, every economic indicator you can name is far better than it was under Mr. Job Creator Bush, notwithstanding the bizarre claims of the "American Enterprise Institute," an Orwellian moniker if I ever heard one. "American Exploitation Institute" is more like it.

Esquire
Springville, UT

Nice try. Conservatives do not have any sense of social justice. The mere concept violates their governing principles. They love saying "Lord, Lord" yet their hearts are far from Him.

freedomingood
provo, Utah

Quote, "moral transformation of the poor is most important"

That is a very telling statement isn't it? A window to the conservative soul.

Yet inmathew 19, "23 And Jesus said to His disciples, "Truly I say to you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24"Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." 25 When the disciples heard this, they were very astonished and said, "Then who can be saved?"…

The only Christian reason to gain any wealth is to have the ability to give it away and do good with it.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Pure hogwash.

LOU Montana
Pueblo, CO

"Social justice is the ability people have to realize their potential in the society where they live."
Social justice cannot work in a society where there are no guidelines. A playing field and rules need to be in place. All we have to do is look at third world countries to see the worst of examples.

Social justice is the Conservative Right Wing's single greatest FEAR! They fear an equal playing field where everyone has the same opportunities to succeed. Equal opportunity employment on government funded jobs is another sore spot with the Conservative Right Wing. If they had their way they would hire only family, friends and illegal aliens. This is very true today is so many ways. In the private sector of employment we see the best of nepotism.The Right Wing Conservatives do not believe in equality. When confronted with equality and fairness they scram foul.

It is so sad that we live in a country that is so wealthy and yet we have so many poor people.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

As much as I like to read my own thoughts let me forgo that and act as editor here and summarize my favorites.

"The author asks why income disparity has grown during Obama's term in office. It’s because of INERTIA. Reagonomics is STILL in effect. The system is STILL rigged to favor the rich. "

"From the piece: "The simple fact is that intentions don’t equal results"

The simple fact is that the left's policies haven't been tried. The right has managed to obstruct them all. The minimum wage has not gone up. There is no financial transactions tax. Glass-Steagall has not been reinstated. There was no jobs program. There is no infrastructure bank. etc., etc., etc.

Put these thoughts on top of the worst recession in 70 years (inherited from a conservative administration) and you have reality. A context that conservatives refuse to recognize.

The Greatest Statist
Layton, UT

That's right. You get him guys! Look at how we overwhelmed this article! Conservatives don't care about the poor! They hate women, minorities, and public schools. We could have actually responded with some nuanced comments or attempts to engage the right on social justice issues, but why bother? Hooray for demagoguery! And to think, we could have used this time to think about why the left isn't winning elections in Utah. It can't be our divisive message posted daily on these comment boards. Nope.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

"....Conservatives should start by asking the downtrodden what they need most. In the conversations I’ve had over the years, I’ve identified three things: Moral transformation, material relief and opportunity...."
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I'm skeptical. Those three sound fine in the abstract but the proof must be in how or if they translate into substantive policy proposals. I don’t expect the far right to budge off course. But at least the Tea Party is not the only faction doing the talking on the GOP side. Let’s see if this tone amounts to anything more than words and gamesmanship.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Some people are so close-minded that they reject anything unless they approve of the author, his background, and his peers. What utter nonsense! When someone writes an "opinion piece", he is entitled to be considered ONLY on what he wrote.

I disagree with much of what the author wrote, because I don't see that the Constitution allows government to shape social policy. I don't see that the State of Utah has the authority to shape social policy. I don't see that the cities within Utah have the authority to shape social policy.

Each entity of government is charged with specific and very limited duties. Those duties do no include shaping social policy.

The 10th Amendment clearly states that any duty not delegated to the Federal Government is to be left to the States OR TO THE PEOPLE.

We, the people, are fully accountable and fully responsible to handle all "social needs" in our community. We are to care for the poor among us. We are to assist those who are unemployed or underemployed. WE are to serve. It is OUR responsibility.

freedomingood
provo, Utah

The only thing I'm sure of about conservatives, is that they oppose social justice.

airnaut
Everett, 00

Glenn Beck said to quit any Church with "Social Justice".
Rush Limbaugh called Pope Francis a Marxist.

So, once again -- we have the Conservative in-fighting.

Give it up.
You guys won your Citizens United and McCutcheon rulings.
The Rich are solidly in charge now, and can rig any election and bribe any politician.

You've destroyed the Middle Class,
and have pushed us all into poverty while taking 85% of America's GDP.

What more do you people want form the rest of the 99% of us?

Hank Pym
SLC, UT

to airnaut

"The Rich are solidly in charge now, and can rig any election and bribe any politician... What more do you people want form the rest of the 99% of us?"

Everything we are clinging to that they don't have..... yet.

Case in point; Kelo v New London which Govt's and their corporate paymasters the right to take whatever they want.

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