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BYU quarterback Taysom Hill to be an instructor at the Manning camp

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  • Northern Logan, UT
    April 10, 2014 7:27 a.m.

    Says all the BYU fans when 2 games into the season were calling for a different QB.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    April 9, 2014 5:00 p.m.

    jarka-rus

    I've watched, in person, every BYU QB since Gary Shiede. I was present for Jim McMahon's hail Mary pass; present for Steve Young's catch versus Missouri; present for Robbie Bosco's national championship winning performance; and standing in the middle of the Crimson Club for Beck to Harline.

    Steve Young was a special talent, but as a Sophomore, playing behind Jim McMahon, he wasn't as good as Taysom Hill was as a Sophomore.

    I think you, and a lot of other BYU fans, are going to be pleasantly surprised at how much better Taysom is going to be in 2014.

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    April 9, 2014 3:05 p.m.

    Blue Coug
    And I hope he does, but i'm just saying no need to get ahead of ourselves, i'm old enough to have watched Steve Young in college and once as a Niner. I was present to see him catch the throwback pass in the Holiday Bowl. He was a special player, Hill will no doubt break records. Hope he has a great career.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 9, 2014 1:54 p.m.

    @stringer bell

    So based on your post I can only assume you have more knowledge of what constitutes a good QB than Archie, Peyton, and Eli Manning?

    Perhaps they should have brought you in to do some coaching. lol

  • Stringer Bell Henderson, NV
    April 9, 2014 1:17 p.m.

    Re: Duckhunter

    Again one must appreciate the moderators for agreeing with your "civil dialogue". Anyone with even a limited amount of football knowledge sees the amusement in this article. I guess next up is the announcement of one of the basketball players going to a BB camp it instruct on defense.

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    April 9, 2014 12:20 p.m.

    CougFaninTX
    Frisco, TX

    "BYU hasn't been in the WAC for over a decade, and the WAC no longer exists for football. No idea why anyone would refer to BYU as a WAC school."

    Agree!

    Recently viewed some Ute basketball Classic Games in NCAA in 1997-1998 time frame on my PAthetiC-12 network channel. The Runnin' Redskins from the *WAC* acquitted themselves very well vs. Arizona and UNC.

    It's a bit of a puzzle to me why the crimson crew denigrates the WAC [or MWC] when it is such a large part of their "success and tradition."

    Did any one of the "Magnificent 7" get invited to instruct at the Manning Camp? If not, this could explain the BYU-WAC reference as merely symptomatic of the bitterness on the Hill.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    April 9, 2014 10:45 a.m.

    jarka-rus

    "No need to compare him to Young who is a HOfer and super bowl champion. Hill's extremely gifted but nowhere near what Steve Young accomplished."

    No reason to assume that Taysom Hill's accomplishments won't be much closer to Steve Young's by the time he finishes his BYU career.

    Sophomore Season Stats
    Young: 56 of 112 (50.0%), 731 yds, 6.5 yds/att, 5 TDs, 5 int, 110.6 rating
    Hill: 236 of 438 (53.9%), 2,938 yds, 6.7 yds/att, 19 TDs, 14 int, 118.1 rating

    In three seasons (34 games), Young rushed 269 times for 1,084 yds, 4.0 avg.
    In two seasons (19 games), Hill has rushed 301 times for 1,680 yds, 5.6 avg.

    In his Sophomore season, Hill had more yards rushing, 1,344 to 1,084, than Young had during his entire career at BYU.

    Barring injury, Taysom has a chance to be a 4,000 yards passing, 1,000 yards rushing QB in 2014, which would put Taysom right up there with the other great BYU QBs.

    To put those numbers in perspective, during his Heisman Trophy winning season, Ty Detmer had 5,188 yds passing, but he lost 166 yds rushing.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    April 9, 2014 10:36 a.m.

    How come kendall thompson wasn't invited? How come travis wilson wasn't invited? Don't the Mannings know that they are 2 of about 137 qb's on the roster of a low level pac12 team?

  • jarka-rus Layton, Utah
    April 9, 2014 10:02 a.m.

    Congrats Taysom!!!! What a great honor, Byu proving its superiority at producing great QB's in the state.
    @CougFaninTX
    No need to compare him to Young who is a HOfer and super bowl champion. Hill's extremely gifted but nowhere near what Steve Young accomplished.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    April 9, 2014 6:49 a.m.

    If the Mannings are confident enough in Taysom's passing talent to invite him to be an instructor at the Manning Quarterback camp, Taysom has obviously improved his passing skills dramatically in the off season.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    April 8, 2014 10:29 p.m.

    Those that wish to denigrate Hill as a qb do so by taking his early season performance and acting like that is the qb he currently is.

    It may be a little more fair to look at his performance against the best defenses he faced last season. But this year he won't face as many tough defenses, he should have better protection, and more options to pass the ball to.

    That, and votes of confidence like this and others leads me to be very hopeful.

  • Just Truth Saratoga Springs, UT
    April 8, 2014 7:23 p.m.

    Always great when a BYU guy represents the university so well. Taysom is a great guy and player. Indy/ND type exposure (ESPN) can't hurt, either. Go BYU!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    April 8, 2014 7:15 p.m.

    BYU hasn't been in the WAC for over a decade, and the WAC no longer exists for football. No idea why anyone would refer to BYU as a WAC school.

    The comparison of Young and Hill is an interesting one, but I think they are very different QBs. Taysom rushed for more yards as a Sophomore than Young did during his entire BYU career. Taysom is by far faster and more powerful running the ball than Young.

    Young's completion percentage and QB rating was off the charts. However, Young made his living off shorter passes - look at how many were screens - 15 yards. He did not throw a lot of long balls.

    I don't know that Taysom's completion percentage or QB rating will ever be close to Young's. But I believe Taysom's completion percentage will move up the next two years.

    Obviously some others believe he has a lot of skill, otherwise he wouldn't get an invite to this camp.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    April 8, 2014 4:21 p.m.

    Good for Taysom. You know what they say, the teacher sometimes/almost always learns more than the students. Taysom has the ability to be a great QB...strong arm, strong leadership & intangibles. He needs to work on going through his progressions and reading what safeties are doing. His deep ball also needs improving. Steve Young had to work on all those things also, but it was his legs that allowed him the time (and coachs' patience) to work through passing issues. Taysom does remind me a lot of Young in many respects, but time will tell if his passing will ever catch up to his running.

  • Kaladin Greeley, CO
    April 8, 2014 3:40 p.m.

    Taysom may become a great - the good thing is he and his coaches know what he needs to work on: accuracy, a few mechanics, reading defense more quickly, and avoiding hits. The future is bright. It's always amazing that a kid from an indy/wac school can get recognition which just keeps happening ;)