Published: Tuesday, April 8 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT
Gender pay was begat by overtime pay which was begat by minimum pay, where will
we go next? It is always something new with this president as he hides from his
record. Oh and by the way, his White House is one of the worst examples of
And the Great Divider keeps on dividing.
Please start the so-called "fighting" from your White House. Please!
"High School fan" You want to know where we go? We head toward pay
equality. Do you presume to think that gender pay inequality is NOT an issue?
You must be a man. Way to distract from the subject of the article in order to
plug your Obama-bashing viewpoint.
It is true that there is a gap between the AVERAGE wage for men and women. But
adjusting for education, field, and experience that gap disappears. Sorry this
is a non issue that is being brought forth as a desperate attempt to distract
from the ACA disaster. The only solution would be to force women to major in
higher income fields and force them to stay in the work force rather than taking
time off to raise families. I would think that most women would object to this.
Currently, it is their choice as to what field to enter and it is their choice
to work part-time, full-time, or take time off.
It's been well established that the gender pay gap only exists because
women are not as likely to negotiate for more pay when they get a job offer.
What's Obama going to do - round up all working women and send them to a
negotiating seminar at the local Holiday Inn?
He probably should start with J.O.B.S
The "so called" gender gap in pay inequity is Obama and the Democrats
hoping enough women will believe they are victoms of an unjust society and vote
accordingly for the party that never fixes anything anyway. It was even more
ridiculous a couple of weeks ago when he was talking about women not getting
college educations and needing help there.
I supported Obama on his efforts for healthcare reform. We needed healthcare
reform and it was an ideological issue that superseded economic issues.
However, lately Obama is wading into strictly economic issues and he is way over
his head. His last two moves have been typical of a life-long bureaucrat who has
never been a part of the real economic dynamics of the American family as it
relates to the supply and demand of labor. Mandatory overtime pay
for salaried employees is a bad idea. It will result in fewer, high-quality,
salaried jobs (and I say this as a salaried employee). Making companies report
gender wages will result in hiring fewer women for high-quality jobs.=Women
typically earn less because they take time off for kids, spend time with family,
and because they predominately choose not to go into highly-technical and
quantitatively-demanding jobs. Those are the candidates that successful
companies are really needing, where limited supply most affects the price for
labor. No employer wants to pay artificially high wages for a worker with less
experience and fewer skills while competing against other companies. In this
case, the market is providing important information to us.
The gender pay gap is generally a hoax. It is often caused by the decision of
women themselves to postpone careers or leave careers to return later to raise
children. In my profession, women and men make the equal amount of pay by law.
Most jobs are like this. Women have choices to most every career out there.
More women than men are going to college and graduating. This isn't 1914
but 2014. Again, much of this is overblown.
"Obama plans to fight the gender pay gap, but will it work?"Anything Obama does, doesn't work. Period!
@ science girl"High School fan" You want to know where we
go? We head toward pay equality. Do you presume to think that gender pay
inequality is NOT an issue? You must be a man. Way to distract from the subject
of the article in order to plug your Obama-bashing viewpoint"You
do realize Obama is doing this for political reasons, right? Since when does
Obama and members of Congress care about women or even average citizens for that
matter?If you want to talk about gender inequality. Take a look at
Obama's White House. Women who work at the White House are paid 88 cents
for every dollar a man makes. Why hasn't Obama done anything about that?
Obama is a hypocrite! There is a reason why he's resorting to
divisive politics, it's because his approval ratings are in the gutter.
There is no gender pay gap but that won't stop this guy. After 6 awful
years this campaign ploy has grown as old and smelly as week old sweat socks but
its the only thing this demagogue has. There was and is no war on women and
there is no gender pay gap but anything to change the discussion away from
Obamacare huh? People are stupid right? Well I would have to agree with the last
one at leat. Let's talk about the "real" world for just
a moment. I'm a software engineer and our company has both male and female
architects who are both class 5 pay scale engineers. The only thing that might
cause one salary to be higer is years of experience. That's reality. So I
guess what Barack is proposing is to imploy the old USSR technique of forced
equality and pay both EXACTLY the same. I 100% guarnantee that if that happens
then you can watch the pay for both male and female engineers to drop by at
least 50% or more. If you don't believe then do some research regarding
what Russian or Chinese engineers make.
Is it any wonder that this president is being ignored! Worst. President. Ever.
@science girlIf you were really interested in the issue you would be
critical of the president for not "leading" on the very issue he is
addressing, which isn't the first time, and will not be the last. You wouldn't accept financial advice from poor people, or health advice
from fat people. But we should accept equal pay advice....from someone who
doesn't pay equally??? That's as bad as hiring a tax cheat as the
treasury secretary.... Oops!More "do as I say, not as I do",
a politician's creed.
The Department of Labor commissioned the largest study on the gender pay gap and
its findings were released back in. 2009. The study concluded that the pay gap
is at most a few cents, but that it is likely lower because they were unable to
control for all of the variables that are known to influence the gap (e.g., how
much overtime is worked, health benefits, etc.). Ultimately, the study
recognized that the gender pay gap is either very small or nonexistent
altogether, and the 23 cent difference can be accounted for by choices made by
both men and women workers.Instead of celebrating the wonderful
finding, Democrats are trying to convince women that they are victims who cannot
succeed without the government's help (using a statistic that academics and
government agencies alike have concluded is an inappropriate way to judge
whether a discriminatory gap exists). What a shameful, divisive tactic!
There are two problems with this approach.The first is that the
president has demonstrated a very flawed understanding of the "pay gap",
the issue of topic here. He uses outdated information that was, at best,
suspect even when it was relevant. Incorrect information very often leads to
incorrect conclusions.Secondly is that the president is not a
dictator. Throwing out "executive orders" to skirt around people who
disagrees with him or force particular issues center-stage hasn't solved
anything, nor is it in the spirit of the most powerful secular office in the
world, and one coveted by other capable people. Healthcare, employment,
disaster aid, personal self-defense, price floors and price ceilings, minimum
wages, you name it and a central governing body will fail it every time. It
doesn't even work in countries like North Korea, Russia, or Cuba, whose
economies and governments are -designed- for the government to exercise almost
total control.In short, this is at -best- the case of a
good-intentioned but naive person hoping to wave an executive magic wand and
"fix" a perceived "problem", with other issues demanding
I guess now he will have to pay women the same as men in the White House, eh?
As he should have done all along.
Principally, the president plans to curb discrimination in pay and hiring
practices by “prohibiting federal contractors from retaliating against
workers who discuss their pay” as well as directing the Labor Department
to implement new rules “requiring federal contractors to provide
compensation data” that reports specifically on both race and gender.---Many workers, including myself, think that one's
compensation is a private matter. Of course I don't know for sure, but I
suspect that I might be paid lower than others on my team. I'm OK with
that, and feel that I am well compensated, but I don't want my salary open
for discussion with anyone but my management. The only information
I desire is to know where my salary falls in the salary range of my pay grade.
That way, nothing is shared about individual compensation.Salaries
should reflect experience, personal productivity, and longevity. Otherwise,
where is the motivation to improve and persist?
I'm disappointed in our president. We have accrued truly astounding
amounts of debt, which continue to grow essentially unchecked, and this is the
financial issue he is pursuing? A pay gap which may or may not exist for
reasons no one is sure of. What about farm subsidies? What about huge sums in
foreign aid? What about fixing the tax code? Our children and grandchildren will
be responsible for the debt our government has created and the president
doesn't address the issue at all. What a poor leader.
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