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Published: Tuesday, April 8 2014 10:33 p.m. MDT

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high school fan
Huntington, UT

Gender pay was begat by overtime pay which was begat by minimum pay, where will we go next? It is always something new with this president as he hides from his record. Oh and by the way, his White House is one of the worst examples of gender inequality.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

And the Great Divider keeps on dividing.

A_Chinese_American
Cedar Hills, UT

Please start the so-called "fighting" from your White House. Please!

science girl
Cedar City, UT

"High School fan" You want to know where we go? We head toward pay equality. Do you presume to think that gender pay inequality is NOT an issue? You must be a man. Way to distract from the subject of the article in order to plug your Obama-bashing viewpoint.

Max
Charlotte, NC

It is true that there is a gap between the AVERAGE wage for men and women. But adjusting for education, field, and experience that gap disappears. Sorry this is a non issue that is being brought forth as a desperate attempt to distract from the ACA disaster. The only solution would be to force women to major in higher income fields and force them to stay in the work force rather than taking time off to raise families. I would think that most women would object to this. Currently, it is their choice as to what field to enter and it is their choice to work part-time, full-time, or take time off.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

It's been well established that the gender pay gap only exists because women are not as likely to negotiate for more pay when they get a job offer. What's Obama going to do - round up all working women and send them to a negotiating seminar at the local Holiday Inn?

USAlover
Salt Lake City, UT

He probably should start with J.O.B.S

SCfan
clearfield, UT

The "so called" gender gap in pay inequity is Obama and the Democrats hoping enough women will believe they are victoms of an unjust society and vote accordingly for the party that never fixes anything anyway. It was even more ridiculous a couple of weeks ago when he was talking about women not getting college educations and needing help there.

Commenter88
Salt Lake City, Utah

I supported Obama on his efforts for healthcare reform. We needed healthcare reform and it was an ideological issue that superseded economic issues. However, lately Obama is wading into strictly economic issues and he is way over his head. His last two moves have been typical of a life-long bureaucrat who has never been a part of the real economic dynamics of the American family as it relates to the supply and demand of labor.

Mandatory overtime pay for salaried employees is a bad idea. It will result in fewer, high-quality, salaried jobs (and I say this as a salaried employee). Making companies report gender wages will result in hiring fewer women for high-quality jobs.=Women typically earn less because they take time off for kids, spend time with family, and because they predominately choose not to go into highly-technical and quantitatively-demanding jobs. Those are the candidates that successful companies are really needing, where limited supply most affects the price for labor. No employer wants to pay artificially high wages for a worker with less experience and fewer skills while competing against other companies. In this case, the market is providing important information to us.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

The gender pay gap is generally a hoax. It is often caused by the decision of women themselves to postpone careers or leave careers to return later to raise children. In my profession, women and men make the equal amount of pay by law. Most jobs are like this. Women have choices to most every career out there. More women than men are going to college and graduating. This isn't 1914 but 2014. Again, much of this is overblown.

Bleed Crimson
Sandy, Utah

"Obama plans to fight the gender pay gap, but will it work?"

Anything Obama does, doesn't work. Period!

Bleed Crimson
Sandy, Utah

@ science girl

"High School fan" You want to know where we go? We head toward pay equality. Do you presume to think that gender pay inequality is NOT an issue? You must be a man. Way to distract from the subject of the article in order to plug your Obama-bashing viewpoint"

You do realize Obama is doing this for political reasons, right? Since when does Obama and members of Congress care about women or even average citizens for that matter?

If you want to talk about gender inequality. Take a look at Obama's White House. Women who work at the White House are paid 88 cents for every dollar a man makes. Why hasn't Obama done anything about that?

Obama is a hypocrite! There is a reason why he's resorting to divisive politics, it's because his approval ratings are in the gutter.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

There is no gender pay gap but that won't stop this guy. After 6 awful years this campaign ploy has grown as old and smelly as week old sweat socks but its the only thing this demagogue has. There was and is no war on women and there is no gender pay gap but anything to change the discussion away from Obamacare huh? People are stupid right? Well I would have to agree with the last one at leat.

Let's talk about the "real" world for just a moment. I'm a software engineer and our company has both male and female architects who are both class 5 pay scale engineers. The only thing that might cause one salary to be higer is years of experience. That's reality. So I guess what Barack is proposing is to imploy the old USSR technique of forced equality and pay both EXACTLY the same. I 100% guarnantee that if that happens then you can watch the pay for both male and female engineers to drop by at least 50% or more. If you don't believe then do some research regarding what Russian or Chinese engineers make.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Is it any wonder that this president is being ignored! Worst. President. Ever.

Chase
Saint George, UT

@science girl

If you were really interested in the issue you would be critical of the president for not "leading" on the very issue he is addressing, which isn't the first time, and will not be the last.

You wouldn't accept financial advice from poor people, or health advice from fat people. But we should accept equal pay advice....from someone who doesn't pay equally??? That's as bad as hiring a tax cheat as the treasury secretary.... Oops!

More "do as I say, not as I do", a politician's creed.

Hawkeye79
Iowa City, IA

The Department of Labor commissioned the largest study on the gender pay gap and its findings were released back in. 2009. The study concluded that the pay gap is at most a few cents, but that it is likely lower because they were unable to control for all of the variables that are known to influence the gap (e.g., how much overtime is worked, health benefits, etc.). Ultimately, the study recognized that the gender pay gap is either very small or nonexistent altogether, and the 23 cent difference can be accounted for by choices made by both men and women workers.

Instead of celebrating the wonderful finding, Democrats are trying to convince women that they are victims who cannot succeed without the government's help (using a statistic that academics and government agencies alike have concluded is an inappropriate way to judge whether a discriminatory gap exists). What a shameful, divisive tactic!

Jamescmeyer
Midwest City, USA, OK

There are two problems with this approach.

The first is that the president has demonstrated a very flawed understanding of the "pay gap", the issue of topic here. He uses outdated information that was, at best, suspect even when it was relevant. Incorrect information very often leads to incorrect conclusions.

Secondly is that the president is not a dictator. Throwing out "executive orders" to skirt around people who disagrees with him or force particular issues center-stage hasn't solved anything, nor is it in the spirit of the most powerful secular office in the world, and one coveted by other capable people. Healthcare, employment, disaster aid, personal self-defense, price floors and price ceilings, minimum wages, you name it and a central governing body will fail it every time. It doesn't even work in countries like North Korea, Russia, or Cuba, whose economies and governments are -designed- for the government to exercise almost total control.

In short, this is at -best- the case of a good-intentioned but naive person hoping to wave an executive magic wand and "fix" a perceived "problem", with other issues demanding attention.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

I guess now he will have to pay women the same as men in the White House, eh? As he should have done all along.

gmlewis
Houston, TX

Principally, the president plans to curb discrimination in pay and hiring practices by “prohibiting federal contractors from retaliating against workers who discuss their pay” as well as directing the Labor Department to implement new rules “requiring federal contractors to provide compensation data” that reports specifically on both race and gender.

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Many workers, including myself, think that one's compensation is a private matter. Of course I don't know for sure, but I suspect that I might be paid lower than others on my team. I'm OK with that, and feel that I am well compensated, but I don't want my salary open for discussion with anyone but my management.

The only information I desire is to know where my salary falls in the salary range of my pay grade. That way, nothing is shared about individual compensation.

Salaries should reflect experience, personal productivity, and longevity. Otherwise, where is the motivation to improve and persist?

Kindred
Mesa, AZ

I'm disappointed in our president. We have accrued truly astounding amounts of debt, which continue to grow essentially unchecked, and this is the financial issue he is pursuing? A pay gap which may or may not exist for reasons no one is sure of. What about farm subsidies? What about huge sums in foreign aid? What about fixing the tax code? Our children and grandchildren will be responsible for the debt our government has created and the president doesn't address the issue at all. What a poor leader.

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