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Published: Monday, April 7 2014 9:25 p.m. MDT

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Sasha Pachev
Provo, UT

I was raised an atheist in the Soviet Union. When I read the Book of Mormon for the first time I had a special feeling, and I have experienced it frequently since over the last 21 years. A few years ago Elder Holland mentioned the conversion of his great-grandfather whose reaction to the Book of Mormon was: "No wicked man could write such a book as this; and no good man would write it, unless it were true". I was stunned - this was a perfect description of my response when I read it as a new convert back in Moscow. How can a 19th century American raised in a Christian religion and a 20th century Russian raised under the communist ideology see it exactly the same way?

timcharper
Saratoga Springs, UT

I no longer believe after studying origins of the Book of Mormon.

Michigander
Westland, MI

The entire Book of Mormon (current gospel doctrines and future prophesied events) is correctly interpreted and understood completely by only one Restored Gospel church, The Church of Jesus Christ (WHQ: Monongahela, Pennsylvania), and it is the only true succession of the restored gospel with the priesthood authority on the earth today.

The Scientist
Provo, UT

I just wonder why my testimony against the truthfulness ("truthiness"?) of the Book of Mormon was rejected by the DN editorialists while ultragrandpa's was not?

I have read, studied, fasted and prayed about, the BOM repeatedly over thirty years of marriage to the best Mormon there is, and I have never received any confirmation that it is "true". I have successfully completed BOM religion classes at BYU, and attended Education Week presentations by some of the best scholars the Church has.

Indeed, all the "light of Christ", intelligence, and wit and wisdom I have tells me it is a 19th century fabrication.

I do not share this "testimony" lightly. My LDS wife has hoped and prayed for my conversion from the day we met. I dearly and deeply want to know the truth of this book and Church. Those who unrighteously judge me (and others like me) as being too proud, insincere, or otherwise unworthy to receive a witness are hypocrites and guilty of the same ad hominem attacks used by the tailors in the parable of the Emperor's New Clothes. Dismissing and trivializing the experiences that are contrary to your beliefs is offensive and unrighteous.

1.96 Standard Deviations
OREM, UT

The Scientist:

As someone mentioned to you some time ago in these discussion boards, your answer has probably come in the form of a dear angel (your wife). Maybe you can ask her how she gained, and recognized, an answer to the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon again? If you "dearly and deeply want to know the truth of this book and Church" maybe it will be worthwhile to ask her again?

1.96 Standard Deviations
OREM, UT

Michigander:

How does your denomination view Sidney Rigdon, or what importance does he have in your church's history?

Also, I believe your denomination does not accept any sections of the Doctrine & Covenants as scripture, but I am curious on what your denomination's view is on the relation between Sidney Rigdon and what is recorded in D&C 76?

D&C 76 is where both Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon were visited by the resurrected Jesus Christ. It is also when they both learned more about the degrees of glory in the afterlife and many other things.

What does your denomination say about this experience Sidney Rigdon had? Any idea why D&C 76 isn't accepted as scripture if your denomination believes Sidney Rigdon had this divine experience?

If I made any wrong assumptions about your church, please correct me. Thanks.

Michigander
Westland, MI

1.96 Standard Deviations:

Thank you for your very thoughtful questions. We only accept D&C 87 in the total D&C volume as a true revelation of JS. I'll try to provide brief answers to your other questions.

We view Sidney Rigdon as being the rightful successor in the crisis after Jun.27, 1844. We also hold the view that SR had the priesthood authority up until 1847 when he went far astray. William Bickerton had that same authority from 1845 under Rigdon's organization but he did not go astray. We believe he was thus the rightful successor to Joseph Smith in the Presidency. Sidney Rigdon was also rejected by our Oct. 3, 1863 Church Conference because Sidney insisted to us that he be considered the spokesman in 2 Ne. 3:17-18. Sidney was completely rebuffed.

We do not accept D&C 76. We believe it was a false experience of both JS and SR. We believe the 3 heavens are the earth's atmosphere (which consists of 5 layers), outer space, and heaven (where God dwells).

I hope this helps answer your questions. Your welcome.

Moontan
Roanoke, VA

@ultragrampa ... That reads to me like you've had the confirmation all along. We spend all our life drinking cola, we aren't going to be all that delighted when someone hands us a cola. A man raised in the desert who spends his years looking for sand is bound to be disappointed. Seems like you've had a blessing all along, not needing to be thunderstruck by an emotional-laden testimony (not that those are bad things). Just a thought, sir.

Pops
NORTH SALT LAKE, UT

The Book of Mormon has had an extraordinarily powerful and transformative influence in my life. As a general rule, I feel spiritual enlightenment and inspiration each time I sit down and read and ponder it. I suspect Moontan may be close to the bull's eye regarding ultragrampa. I resorted to the Book of Mormon to escape a dark place in my life. Those who have never been anyplace dark probably can't appreciate the light as much as those who have. I'm not suggesting that he, nor anyone else, take a trip to the dark side so they can appreciate being rescued, because you may not be able to recover from such an action.

Hey It's Me
Salt Lake City, UT

@ ultragrandpa - a member of my ward, back east, testified to that very thing. Someone put a Book of Mormon on a library shelf, and he found it. Didn't know anything about it, but took it and read it, then joined the Church. He was very grateful someone put it there and that he was willing to investigate what the book was.

Moontan
Roanoke, VA

Seems to me that for many people, confirmation of the truth of the BoM involves nothing more than an acceptance that one believes its true - an acceptance many of us fought and still fight; an acknowledgment of one’s own intuitive knowledge that “what I've just read it true”; a realization that “Spirit just spoke to spirit”. A liberating moment to be sure, but without a ‘hallelujah’ experience. No coincidences’ involved, such as missionaries knocking on the door just as I was pondering on its truth, or Dad calling after 30 years to say “I’m sorry” just as I read the last verse of Moroni. More like a sweet liberation from a cancerous Doubt. Those of us who accepted that truth while wallowing in the gutter will have more to talk about years later, but the fortunate few who never made it that low do not have a weaker, or absent, testimony, even if their testimony seems bland or trumpet-free.

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