I would predict if the GOP nominates a tea party republican you will see a
landslide that might rival Johnson over Goldwater. Maybe not that bad but
probably pretty close. All in all, Romney did pretty well and as well as any
GOP could do in a national election with the electoral college vote as
Years ago when Mitt ran in Mssachussetts he had the support of Republicns and
Democrats alike. Many of my family and friends live there and were from all
backgrounds. Mitt had a clear message and it was inclusive. His healthcare
program was revolutionary and same sex marriage was embraced. This
time he catered to the Tea party faction of the party and it backfired on him.
He flip flopped and offended the moderates in both parties. Sorry
Frank I think you are out of sync. If the Mitt we knew in MA had run....he would
have won! But the radical factions of the Republican party took over. He caved
and people knew it.
Unfortunately, the Republican Party did not learn the lesson from the last
election disaster. Nor did it learn anything from the study it commissioned to
find out what was wrong with the GOP. Therefore, I predict that they will pick a
Tea Party-approved nominee and once again get walloped in the general election.
But that's fine, because their economic theory is a disaster waiting to
happen. They keep repackaging and relabeling supply-side economics. But it
simply doesn't work. Not only does it not work, but it can be blamed for
the current disastrous state of affairs, with most of the wealth being funneled
into the pockets of those who do not spend enough on consumer goods to keep the
economy afloat. So, if you like where we're headed, please vote for GOP
candidates. Soon the ultra-wealthy will own everything, and we'll be back
to the Middle Ages.
The Republicans have good people like;Sec. Collin Powell, or
Sec. Condi Rice.Either could win by a landslide, Neither
will run on the GOP ticket.Why?They are not afraid of
the mean old nasty "liberal" Democrats, They are afraid of the
Public Humiliation and Media Circus the GOP Tea-Partiers vett their
candidates through.Breaking Ronald Regan's own 11th commandment
-- "Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican"Tea-Partiers love Ronald Reagan, but don't listen to a single
word he ever said.
The reason Romney lost is because he was just an Obama clone that had everything
in Common with Obama. NDAA, NSA spying Foreign wars etc etc. Romney was paid off
by the power elite to be a dead horse in the election. He cares nothing for the
country. He works for the same people Obama works for. If Romney were to get
elected, you wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between him and
Obama. The only difference between them is the scripted non-factors that the
mass media shoves down your throats. I can't even tell the difference
between Bush and Obama.
Clinton would bury Romney. Thanks to their policies on the old, sick and poor,
there isn't a republican alive who would beat Hillary Clinton in a
LDS Liberal,I hope that I would not use old liberal comments to brow
beat anyone. I am old enough to have seen the political pendulum swing back and
forth. I believe the pendulum will swing after Obama's presidency.
Republicans have lost, which always affords an opportunity to evaluate and
reframe some positions.It's all part of the dynamics of
American politics. May we all enjoy the debate!
When will the Mitt-tites realize the ship has sailed? It left. Besides, he got
what he wants from SOTUS anyway. We are soon to be children of the Oligarchs.
DavidCenterville, UTI should begin copying the liberal comments that
are so confident in their position & in the next election & then bring
them up in the next few years. I think the political winds are changing.10:31 p.m. April 7, 2014=========== I have 6
years of conservative comments saved.They were so confident that Mitt
Romney was going to win, that Obama was going to losoe, and that
Mitt was ahead by a landslide even hours after the polls closed.Would you like me to bring them up, and brow beat you with them?The political winds have changed, Everyone now knows what a mess GW Bush
caused, Obama was right, and after the Government Shut-down, the Tea-Party is quietly being dismissed by the GOP establishment.
I probably wish Mitt would have won but he lost. He wants to move on Frank, let
I should begin copying the liberal comments that are so confident in their
position & in the next election & then bring them up in the next few
years. I think the political winds are changing.
PS. Special Note to Red Cal: You can't gerrymander the Country. The
Presidential election will always reflect the mood of the overall electorate
(unless the electoral vote and popular vote are at odds with each other).
Please, please keep your same policies and go into the election with the most
conservative candidate and repeat: "I think I can. I think I can."
Voila! You will have another Democrat in the White House and a liberal majority
on the Supreme Court. And we have only you and likeminded folks to thank.
Hey no one has mentioned Jeb Bush! He has been making noises of late that we
should have a battle of two political dynasties..Bush v. Clinton. Sounds like a
great fight to me. Short of the Republicans making a complete 180 and nominating
a moderate the outcome is assured. I can see it now...Rep. Mia Love
addresses the convention and tells them she speaks for all women in America and
that some of her best friends are Hispanic and they are fine with self
deportation. Will the immigrant community and the women who sunk Mitt in 2012,
jump at the chance to vote "severe" conservative?? Don't hold your breath.
To "LDS Liberal" I don't think you remember history verry well.
Sarah Palin gave McCain a HUGE boost among independent voters and conservative
Republicans.Lets take a look at what conservatives are doing:read "Tea Party upstarts take on incumbents in GOP primaries" in
the Globe and MailLook at the Scott Walker election in Wisconsin.Look at David Jolley in Florida.There are a lot of other
instances where the underfunded conservative have won over the established
Democrat and even the "moderate" and Progressive Republicans.I know you don't like facts, but that is the direction things are moving
in the Republican Party. Aparently people know that Progressive/liberal
policies fail, and want to hear an actual difference.To
"anotherview" that is how movements start. At the local level. First
people see and experience conservativism in their cities, then they want their
state and national governments to adopt the same thing.
Re:Redshirt"You can also look at the results of quite a few elections
around the US and you see that conservatives (no moderates or Progressive
Republicans) are winning elections "And what role does
redistricting play in more conservatives winning local elections?I
could've lived with Romney as president as long as Democrats had clear
control of the legislature. But having the executive branch and the
legislative branch under total Republican control would be harmful to Americans.
RedShirtCalTechPasedena, CAOk liberals, lets look at history and see
where things are pointed.The next canidate from the Republican
party, IMHO, will probably be more conservative than Romney and will be attacked
a lot more than Romney ever was.12:29 p.m. April 7, 2014======== OK Red...How did Sarah Palin help the
Republican Party?Sharron Angle?Christine O'Donnell?Bring it on, Yours is a Democrat candidate dream come true.
Conservatives are still convinced that the last election was about the
candidates and not the messaging. Mr. Obama didn't win the election because
he's an ideal liberal candidate, he won because voters were rejecting
Romney and the rabid "conservative" agenda. As the right becomes more
unhinged, the reasonable voters will hopefully come out in droves to reject the
If the next Republican candidate is more conservative than the "Severe
Conservative" version of Mitt Romney, there is no way on earth he/she will
win. Although they are the most vocal people in the country, Tea Partiers make
up a relatively small slice of the country. People want moderation or slightly
off center, not flaming ideologues. Any time a party nominates someone from the
fringe, they lose.
Ok liberals, lets look at history and see where things are pointed.Over the past 6 years we have seen the the Republican party shift more to the
right. Those that were considered moderates in 2008 are now the left fringe of
the party. Even Mitt Romney's ability to go from 2nd favorite canidate in
2008 to top canidate in 2012 shows that the party is moving to the right.Was Mitt Romney a perfect conservative, no. He did represent the
direction that the Republican party is taking, and that is towards
conservativism and away from the me-too-Progressive policies of McCain and his
ilk.You can also look at the results of quite a few elections around
the US and you see that conservatives (no moderates or Progressive Republicans)
are winning elections against established Democrats who spend a lot more on
their elections.The next canidate from the Republican party, IMHO,
will probably be more conservative than Romney and will be attacked a lot more
than Romney ever was.
Which Mitt Romney?The Moderate North Eastern Rockefeller Republican
who passed Romneycare and was not Right-Wing radical enough to win the GOP
nomination in 2008?orThe "Severley Conservative" Tea-Party
wanna-be, who passed Romneycare, completely out-of-touch Rich Guy who finally
won the GOP nomination -- but miserably lost the General Election in 2012?Hint: If had remained true and faithful to who he was inside, He
would most likely be the President of the United States today.The
Tea-Partiers made him morph into a big fat lie.And America was not about
to be fooled.He's another hint:Jon Huntsman Jr. has the
best shot.But just like Mitt, he'll never make it due to
the radical right.
Mitt Romney has decided not to run. That's fine... it's his
decision, move on...Some assume Romney is the only person who can
defeat Hillary. I have 2 problems with that assumption:1. Could he
really win over Hillary?2. Will Hillary even run?Hillary
hasn't even declared that she will run yet. Some people close to her say
she may not run (for health reasons).If Hillary doesn't run...
what amazing candidates to Democrats have in the wings that would hands down
beat any of the Republican challengers?If Hillary doesn't run
(which is very possible)... it could be an interesting race in 2016 (with or
without Mitt Romney).
FreedomFighter41,Just because none of the Republican hopefuls send a
thrill up your leg whey you hear them speak... doesn't mean there
isn't anybody out there on that side that could do the job (as well as
anybody else).===I personally think the way the founding
fathers looked at the Presidency... ANY American could do it. You didn't
have to be a "savior", or a miracle, or even uniquely qualified in any
way. You just had to be willing to do the job.But today... you
have to be ideologically pure for some people (I suspect FreedomFighter41 is one
of them).But I personally think ANYBODY could do it. From either
party. From any State. From any ideology. Mitt Romney included...
My favorite thing about Conservatives?...Lamenting about how things
USED to be, or Should've Could've Would've been.
I don't know who these "viable" candidates are. I wish they had
one, but they don't.But if Mitt isn't passionate about it
(and he isn't) then he should not run... he would lose if he's not
passionate about it.He has a comfortable life, and enjoys spending
time with his extended family now. I have 2 new grand kids too. I can see
why he would rather stay home in his mansion and play with them, and spoil
them... instead of having his family beat up by the Press every day, and having
to deal with the stresses and huge problems a President has to deal with every
day.Presidents have huge demands on themselves and their families.
Family and time off with family tends to get put on the back-burner for
Presidents. Maybe he want's to decide which video he will watch with the
grand-kids... instead of what to do about Hamas, AlQaida, Iran, North Korea,
reporters, political activists, etc...I can see why he wouldn't
want to run.Especially with the bitterness in Washington... and 50%
of America constantly out to get the President and find fault with him.
Interesting. Not one poster has voiced their support for frank's letter or
for mitt Romney. And this is a conservative newspaper!I think that
speaks volumes. People are tired of Romney. They know that if the GOP has any
shot in 2016 that they will have to find another candidate.
"Mitt states that the Republicans have plenty of quality candidates, whom
Mitt is looking forward to supporting. My question is, who would those
candidates be? As a lifelong Republican, I don’t see anyone more qualified
than Mitt Romney himself! No one, and I repeat, no one, stands out as a viable
candidate to run against Hillary, except Mitt.For the sake of the nation,
Mitt, throw your hat in the ring!"Frank is either admitting that
the current crop of republicans stinks (yet he will vote for them anyway) or
that Hillary is pretty darn qualified (yet he will never vote for her and will
complain every month of her presidency to the Dnews).Doesn't
that give you warm fuzzies all over knowing people like frank exist? Way to put party over country, Frank.How about we ignore parties
for just a second and vote for the best candidate for the nation? All early
indications point toward Mrs. Hillary Clinton. Mrs. Clinton, welcome to the
White House. GOP? It's back to the drawing board. Time to reform in order
to become relevant again.
If mitt throws his hat in the ring then he will lose once again.Why?Because the evangelical far right, who controls the GOP,
doesn't trust Romney. They look at him as a RINO who isn't even a
Christian. The only reason why they finally gave him their party's
nomination is because Cain, Bachmann, and Gingrich were obviously so terrible
that they essentially had to give Romney the nomination.The moderate
American, your average voter, sees a rich guy who will do and say anything to be
elected. They see a man who has a disdain for valuable social nets and who is
completely out of touch with the common worker. Why would we vote for a man who
sees us as lazy when he himself hasn't worked in years! He was so unpopular
he couldn't even win his home state (Mich) and the state he was governor
over (Mass).The left? Haha, sees nothing worthwhile in the guy.So if the GOP wants to lose again, then please, Romney throw your hat in
Frank, it's "Schieffer", and your mitt coloured glasses aren't
letting in any favourable light from any other republican potential candidates,
Mitt really didn't seem to want it last time (something was seriously
amiss), and I don't think anything has changed. Pershaps he had an
entitlement attitude, and selecting Presidents that way is a thing of the past.
Time to move on.
Frank said "I don't see anyone more qualified than Mitt Romney
himself!" Let's take a look at what Romney is qualified at and what
he's really good at:1. Taking companies into bankruptcy while
raking in obscene amounts of money as personal income.2. Shutting
down companies and sending jobs offshore while raking in obscene amoutns of
money as personal income.3. Promising to create jobs (2012
election) whle raking in an obscene profit from an investmenbt (through his
cronies at Bain Capital) in a company being closed and jobs being sent to China,
and not even meeting with the workers when they tried to meet with him to ask
him to intervene.4. As Governor, calling tax increases
"fees" so he didn't have to admit he raised taxes.5.
Creating tax avoidance schemes so he is not fully taxed (Caymon islands for
example).6. Flip-flopping.7. Advocating for the
wealthy while disparaging the poor.8. Generally making things up as
he goes along.9. Basically looking after his own interests to the
detriment of others.This is NOT what the country needs. These are
NOT qualifications to be President. No thanks.
You might be right Frank.But the GOP base does not want the real
Mitt Romney. They don't want the guy who instituted Romney Care or
believes in Man-made climate change.They want the guy pretending to
be a "severe conservative". And he comes off so fake and unnatural when
he plays that character, that the rest of the electorate doesn't want
him.I sincerely could vote for the real Mitt Romney. But the GOP
base could not.
It's 2014. The election was in 2012 and the Romney supporters never stopped
complaining about it. Now it's 2014 and the Romney supporters are already
talking about 2016. Please, spare us all and give us just 1 year free of Romney
talk, please?Between Mitt Romney and Mia Love, I think malt in this
state are tired of the endless rhetoric, campaign ads, and politics in general.
Give us all just 1 year of peace, please!
Jon Huntsman, Jr., appears to be a moderate candidate that many Democrats would
support. Hilary will be difficult to defeat given her popularity,
her husband's current popularity and charitable good works, and
people's yearning for the economic boom times and balanced budget her
husband's administration helped establish in the 1990s.A TEA
Partier would not stand a chance against Hilary.
What a great way to start my day! I love a good morning guffaw, hahaha!Mitt Romney demonstrated to the Nation that he is wholly unqualified to
represent The American People.Keep dreamin' Utah!
Perhaps a little better understanding of the opinion most non-republicans hold
of Mr Romney would help.He is an admirable man in many ways, but he
has shot his shot, and not only lost the Electoral College in a humiliating
landslide, but was surprised at the result.Surely there are republicans
who are more realistic about America, and about leading the non-republicans to
vote for them.