Hey SCFan -"So are you for or against Citizens United?"I am absolutely against it, as are all reasonable Americans.The Republicans went through a lot of trouble to undermine American Democracy
to substitute plutocracy in its place. And yes, it would be funny, appropriate,
ironic, and fitting if that plutocracy they worked so hard to achieve just
turned around and bit them hard.That could happen.The trouble
with myopic Republicans is that they have never been able to think beyond the
short term."Inconsistancy, like yours, is a hallmark of
liberalism, . . . "Really? A hallmark huh? Got any other
examples of Liberal inconsistency?And is concentrating on
consistency really a virtue? Obviously, leadership must change to meet new
realities. That's another problem with Republican leadership. It's
forever backward looking, forever regressive, and never looking ahead to meet
the needs existent with current and future realities.Do you really
think the Koch brothers have exceeded the billions in charitable giving of the
Gates foundation?Yet another problem with "Conservatives" .
. . They're often out of touch with reality and make assertions with no
basis at all in fact.
The Senate is most busy voting down the ridiculous things coming out of the
Republican controlled House. Once the House gets back to the business they are
supposed to be engaged in, the Senate can move on to other things."He who invoked the nuclear option just because he refused to work with
the other side and did not get his own way."No. That is clearly
false. It was invoked because the Republicans were refusing to work on the
nominations of anyone, basically grid-locking the functioning of the government.
They were in effect trying to govern from the minority position. That is wrong.
Gary OSo are you for or against Citizens United? You seem to imply
that with liberal billionairs it would benefit the Democrat Party. Which way do
you want it? Inconsistancy, like yours, is a hallmark of liberalism, and most
Democrats. And, as Mohokat pointed out, you like to leave all the left wing
billionairs influence out of these conversations about money in politics. Plus,
I doubt many in this country could equal the Koch Brothers for charitable
contributions, unless of course their name is Romney. Amazing that people like
you and Harry Reid are so cynical that when a conservative is charitable they
are bad people. Yet, rich people like Gore and Biden are found to give pocket
change to charity. That is until they run for something.
Mr. Gerson doesn't seem to like the "populist" nature of the Senate
today. The most "populist" thing the Senate has done in its entire
history was the Democrats taking a two year Senator named Obama and actually
pushing and believing this guy was ready for prime time big league politics as
President of the United States. Unbelievably stupid, and we are now seeing the
damage of that populist decision. Obama. Presidential timber? Please. Even
NOW he doesn't have the experience to be President. OJT doesn't work
in his case.
"Assuming that either the left wing or the right wing gained control of the
country, it would probably fly around in circles" -- Pat Paulsen
@ Gary OWhat no comment on the liberal darling Georgie Boy Soros.
You should do more homework before you spout liberal hate speech.Just a tiny bit of the Koch Brothers charitable giving. You need to research
as there is one heck of a lot more that the Koch brothers do but that would
diminish your Harry Reid like attacks.$100 million to
NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital to help build the David H. Koch Center, a new
ambulatory care center$20 million to Johns Hopkins University for the
David H. Koch Cancer Research Center$30 million to the Memorial
Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York City$25 million to the M.D.
Anderson Cancer Center in Houston for the David H. Koch Center for Applied
Research of Genitourinary Cancers$15 million to New York-Presbyterian
Hospital Weill Cornell Medical Center$25 million to The Hospital for
Special Surgery in New York City$10 million to Jaffe Food Allergy
Institute at the Mount Sinai Medical Center to create the David H. and Julia
Koch Research Program in Food Allergy Therapeutics
Mohokat - It's going to be an interesting change when Gates and Buffet
start kicking in a few billion every now and then to pragmatic and practical
candidates (i.e, Democrats) who are ready and willing to promote the best
interests of America and the world.That might make the Koch brothers
and their relatively tiny bankrolls look somewhat insignificant.Gates and Buffet are very charitable people, but no charitable contribution
can be more beneficial than influencing politics in a way that advances mankind
now and in the future. . . And Republican policies absolutely do not do that.
The extreme right bellicosity and unwillingness to even consider the possibility
of common ground is the bane of Islamic nations, the scourge of Israel and
threatens the U.S. The left has it problems for sure, but nothing like the
purposeful rejection of reason and common decency that we’re facing from
the super right.
Uh, the Senate passes stuff from time to time that is proactive. Let's
talkl about the House. That place is an utter mess! What has the GOP House
done in the past four years? Seriously, what have they done of any note?
@GaryOKoch brothers bad, George Sooros good? Is that what your
saying. Sounds like a generous serving of hypocrisy
Look no further than Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.He has been
the embodiment of the hardball, no holds barred, win at any costs, truth doe not
matter, partisanship over deliberation approach which directly reflect the
"Chicago way" employed by his boss.Meanwhile, this
ostensibly humble person from crossroads Searchlight, Nevada has become a
millionaire while in a series of political jobs which do not pay all that well.
That alone is a highly visible tribute to his skills, but not necessarily his
ethics.Between the destruction wrought by the President and Senator
Reid, our country may never recover.Meanwhile, we might as what has
our senior Senator done to promote comity, or prevent dictatorship in that body?
Are you suggesting that the senate runs vastly different from the house?Both are dysfunctional. We are heading off a cliff. The
dems say turn right and the reps say turn left. Because they cant agree, we the
same heading, knowing full well that their is a cliff ahead.And,
amazingly enough, that makes sense to a lot of people.
“The Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, D-Nev. . . pursues an unhinged
vendetta against the Koch brothers, private citizens engaged in lawful political
activity?” Uh . . . no.In more accurate terms, Harry Reid is
making transparent the otherwise surreptitious activities of plutocrats who
influence public policy by buying the loyalty of politicians. Yes, some of what
the Koch brothers do may even be legal, but it is hardly ethical. Exposing
Machiavellian behavior is certainly no “unhinged vendetta.” It is
responsible public service. Thank you Harry Reid.The mockery that
main stream Republican politicians routinely make of politics now and their
joyous romp into mudslinging and their habit of inventing “facts”
to support other “facts” is an outgrowth of Right Wing
Radio’s popularity and it’s complete disregard for any kind of
What do expect when the senate majority leader is a dictatorial, obstructionist,
arrogant, hard-core political ideologue? He who invoked the nuclear option just
because he refused to work with the other side and did not get his own way. Yeah, some of these issues existed before, but not to the extent they
have under harry's reign of terror.