I didn't check back on this article. Thanks for the clarification Pocy.
With the understanding that you were being sarcastic your statement makes more
sense. I thought you were saying that Arizona in 2010 was lower tier because
they had a bad year, so my fault.
DuckSo now your adding "somewhat desperate?"Seriously your attempts to minimize everything Utah are just sad.I
agree, it's necessary to show a coach who has shown promise some love.
That's exactly what Hill did, and oddly enough, that's exactly what
Arizona did too. I'm not saying Utah is at the same level as Arizona,
I'm saying that coaches get rewarded for moving in the right direction,
regardless of whether they are in 1st place or last place in their conference,
and it isn't desperate, or a sign of weakness, it's just the business
of college basketball.Yes, utah's overall record was an
illusion, but their Pac-12 record was not. Considering the level of Pac-12 is
generally higher, and Utah eclipsed their total Pac-12 wins from the previous 2
season is tangible and quantifiable proof that Utah is improving and headed in
the right direction. That get's rewarded, period.
@pocyThere is no comparison to be made between az and utah, they
don't even belong in the same conversation so any attempt to compare what
az has done to what utah is doing is simply ridiculous and worthy of nothing
more than a brief chuckle and a quick dismissal.utah signing
krystkowiak to a raise and an extension is exactly what I called it, a necessary
and somewhat desperate ploy to keep a coach and some consistency in the program
because krystkowiak's results to this point are pretty mediocre. Now it is
true he took over a program in shambles, and abysmal and pitiful program with
little talent and no "fans" to even watch it.He has improved
that trainwreck, sure, but their record this past season was an illusion falsely
inflated by playing the worst teams in the entire ncaa, all at home to boot, it
simply doesn't qualify him for a raise and an extension.Now of
course I am used to utah "fans" blindly and thoughtlessly jumping to the
defense of the indefensible when it comes to utah, I'd just like to see a
little bit of honesty one time.
He's the real deal. He didn't come in and reap the benefits of a
departing coaches seniors. This guy started at zero and has recruited amazingly
well for a team that had been in the dumps for years. His soft pre season this
year might turn out to be one of the smartest moves that a U coach has made
since a fat guy drew up a plan to beat Arizona on a napkin. Congrats, K! So
proud to have you at the helm.
It's good to have a coach that is making a positive difference. No one can
argue that LK isn't doing g that.Some other coaches in the
state have their team in the 9th best conference in the country, doesn't
teach defense, and when the game ry counts (last 5 minutes) he sits and
watches...sounds like a fan to me.Sorry if the truth gives anyone
And once again the truth has caused many of you angst. It is funny.What's funny is you keep posting and posting about angst and nobody, not
even the other Cougars are buying it. Your repeated frantic claims don't
make it so.Angst is you disappearing every year, and twice in 2013, after
another Ute win.
@CougFaninTX "Krystkowiak had a good year, but his overall results are
still not impressive. Two of his three years at the helm were worse results than
Boylen's worst yearsI sometimes wonder if you even understand
the context when posting such statements. In his first year coach LK had one
legit D1 player. In year two, he had 5 D1 players on his entire roster.
Looking strictly at his win-loss record without considering the environment and
circumstances is a bit short sighted.
Duck"But that is the position a lower level pac12 program is in,
they have to do things like this just to desperately try to hope to compete.Of course Utah isn't a top tier Pac-12 team, but the mere fact that
AZ did the exact same thing just a few years ago should show you that it
isn't something a team does "just to desperately try to hope to
compete"You claim truth, but it isn't in anything you say.
The sad thing is watching you desperately cling to a faulty argument, as you
admittedly just try and stir up trouble.
@pocy"My point in saying that was to factually disprove
Duck's inflammatory statement"Unfortunately for you you
failed to do that seeing as though az is not now, and was not then, "lower
tier" by any definition whereas utah is firmly "lower tier" based on
the fact they just had their highest finish ever and it was only 8th place.
I'm not sure what you think they are but when your best finish ever is 8th
out of 12 then that is firmly "lower tier". lolAnd once
again the truth has caused many of you angst. It is funny.
CougsIt was after Miller took them to the Elite 8.My
point in saying that was to factually disprove Duck's inflammatory
statement that Utah's extension of coach K was an act of desperation by a
lower tier Pac-12 school, when in reality, it's a very common action by a
school that values the coach and sees that the program is definitely headed in
the right direction.I certainly don't see AZ as a lower tier
program, and even when they dipped, they weren't. They are the class of
the Pac-12 and the team that every team is shooting for. Unfortunately sarcasm
doesn't translate to well on the board.
PocyUte:I agree with most of what you said, but I think you're the
only person I've ever heard refer to AZ as "lower tier". And in
2011 Arizona went to the elite 8. Did Miller sign the contract before that
season, because AZ was still a .500 team the year before which is far below
their norm, but was only one year and still not "lower tier". Can you
You BYU fans and your negative comments about this deal for Coach K is just
another indication of your hurt feelings over the Ute's dominating win last
season. With this new deal in place Coach K can focus on getting the boys ready
for next season including Kansas and facing the Cougars in Provo. What a game
that will be?! Looking forward to it. Go Utes!
Duck"But that is the position a lower level pac12 program is in,
they have to do things like this just to desperately try to hope to
compete"Just like lower tier AZ extended Sean Miller after 2
seasons back in 2011."I really enjoy the angst my truthful post
elicited from some of the usual utah "fans"."Nice to see
your true motives for posting. It isn't to promote civil dialogue,
it's only to upset people.
Congrats to coach KTremendous improvement over the last 3 years,
with another good, solid recruiting class coming in next year.Definitely the right move by HillGo Utes
First, contracts don't mean much anymore. It doesn't take much for a
coach to leave their contract before it comes to an end. In my opinion, if a
coach or a university end a contract before it's complete, the departing
party should have to pay the other party whatever money is remaining on the
contract.Second, Krystkowiak had a good year, but his overall
results are still not impressive. Two of his three years at the helm were worse
results than Boylen's worst years.I do think Wright and
Loveridge are outstanding, and Chapman will be a big boost. Good luck.
Schmee"Mind explaining how they got an NBA assistant coach to
become their head coach in the first place if the position is totally lacking in
prestige?"Uh, K was going nowhere in the NBA and needed a new
gig. And let's face it, the Utes were not prestigious at that time nor for
a few years before and now here we are today. Over the past decade prestigious
is about as foreign as a football bowl game these past two years.Don't get me wrong, I'm just calling it like it is. Utes are
improved, that's it and no predictions for the future. It has to be done on
the court.Playing Kansas in the preseason is a huge step in the
right direction. Sounds like Special K may be around longer than Whit.
Deserves every year and every penny.
Frankly this is to soon based on his results which are a losing record overall,
no ncaa appearances, a losing record to BYU, a one and done in the less than
prestegious NIT in a high school gym, a humiliating crushing in the conference
tournament, and the only "winning" record against one of the worst
schedules in the entire NCAA.But that said I understand why hill did
it, and why krystkowiak agreed to it. From hill's standpoint he has to try
to keep krystkowiak as it knows the utah job is not a premium job and if the
program does continue to improve others will come calling I don't think
that will matter though because if a better job comes his way krystkowiak will
be gone.From krystkowiak's standpoint it's a no brainer.
He gets a raise plus 5 more years of paychecks even if the program remains bad,
and of course he can leave at anytime anyway if he gets a better offer.But that is the position a lower level pac12 program is in, they have to do
things like this just to desperately try to hope to compete.
The Utes were smart to lock up coach K for 5 more years!! He has done a great
job with the team and school and area!! Good luck to the Utes and coach K!!!
Onward and Upward!!!Go Cougs!!! Rise Up!!!
@Schnee. I'll explain it for you. He really wanted to be a head coach. He
had lived in Utah during his time playing for the Jazz back when the Utes
we're good, talked his buddy Andrew Bogut, who he coached on the Bucks,
when he heard about the vacancy, he knew he probably wouldn't ever be an
NBA hc again after his bad season with the Bucks, and it was a big step up from
his hc days with Montana. Utah Utes ate NOT a prestigious program the past 10
Congrats to coach Krisco, he definitely deserves it. Utah was so much better
this year than previously. I like and follow Utah basketball and even with the
soft preseason schedule, this team this year exceeded my expectations and just
about everyone else's. Now Utah just needs to keep him under contract and
not let the jazz come in and buy him out or someone else snatch him up. We all
know extensions aren't really a guarantee for a coach staying...just ask
He is rebuilding the program and doing it the right way. I think he represents
the University well and is one of the better PAC-12 coaches. Glad to hear he
will be staying for awhile.
Good news.Now let's hope the coach and his players can learn
how to maintain a lead once they've gotten in front.
Duckhunter,Better to be a lower level PAC 12 team on the rise than to be
in a lower level conference and lose to a lower level PAC 12 team. The best that
the 2nd place team in the wcc could do was a 10 seed and 1 and out. lol.
@Duckhunter"Frankly this is to soon based on his results "His results are that he inherited a dumpster fire and brought them to
the NIT with an incoming top 40 recruiting class for next year"But that is the position a lower level pac12 program is in"Mind explaining how they got an NBA assistant coach to become their head coach
in the first place if the position is totally lacking in prestige?
StGtoSLCSALT LAKE CITY, UT"Glad to see this happen.
He's built the program the right way, not only improving the talent and
coaching, but getting guys who are great students and citizens."Agreed. Coach K has done a remarkable job instilling a new culture and
turning the program around. And, he's done it in short order. I'll never forget the press conference when he was introduced as the new
HC, Coach K said..."I can coach basketball, what I'm looking for are
leaders." What he has accomplished in a short time is just amazing. Well done, Dr. Hill and congratulations Coach K. Go
Congrats Coach K!Go Utes!!
Good to see. He's definitely got the program headed in the right
RobinAgreed! It's a positive move for sure. Have a good one Guy
and Go Utes!
Good to hear, he was mentioned as one of the frontrunners for the Cal job.
Glad to see this happen. He's built the program the right way, not only
improving the talent and coaching, but getting guys who are great students and
@Spokane UteA contract may not mean what it once did - employees
don't show loyalty like they used to - but it does mean two things: 1, it
means LK has the support of the administration so he doesn't have that
pressure hanging over him. 2, I'm sure LK's getting a huge raise so
it means if he leaves Utah it won't be for money.
Definitely a great pick up for the Utes hopefully he stays and doesn't bolt
like Alford did. They are still a couple years away from competing for a Pac 12
title though but they'll definitely be in the top half of the league from
here on out.
He will move on long before this contract expires as greener pastures appear.
Here's hoping the utes put a high buyout in this agreement.
Congrats Coach! I'm looking forward to the futureGo Utes!
I like the move. Even though a contract doesn't mean much now days since
coaches often leave for other jobs, or get fired for not doing a good job. All
though the last two games of the season were total downers; overall the team
improved; as they have done in each year under coach K. Really looking forward
to next year with the 7 top scorers all returning and the loss of only one
player. Not to mention the incoming Freshman class. Utah also needs to step up
the non-conference games; which I'm sure they will. Go Utes!!
Great news!We are lucky to have him.The future is bright
with coach K. Next year its march madness or bust no question about it, and I
think we'll get there. Taylor, Wright, and Loveridge are absolute
studs.We'll be competing for Pac 12 titles from here on out.
Its been a long wait, but we're back!Proud Ute