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Published: Wednesday, April 2 2014 10:18 a.m. MDT

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Yes, he was coming off the bench, but still played significant minutes.

So the question still remains, why would Matt want to leave a big time program.

A very relevant and possible question, even if byu fans don't want to admit it, is if Matt was feeling uneasy about being one of very few non-lds students. A recent basketball player at byu who also left said he left partly because he didn't feel comfortable and because he was being pressured to join the lds religion.

That is sad that students are pressured to do that - and not just accepted. And yes, there is a difference between an invitation and pressure - and like I said a very recent player who left said he was pressured.

Matt, this is a good decision and one I imagine you'll be very happy with.

Best of luck to you.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

I'm not sure how big a loss it will be for BYU, time will tell. What I am sure of is that whoever signs him will need to take Xanax or something before each game with his erratic inconsistent play. He has talent, and can score in bunches as Andy Katz indicated but he also turns the ball over and makes poor decisions almost as often.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

Chris:
Lloyd was the exception when it comes to non lds athletes that have played at BYU. The majority of them have had nothing but positive to say about their experience at BYU and the friendships and atmosphere it provided. Leave it to you to try and highlight the exceptions to stir up controversy. Ask Cody Hoffman about BYU and his experience. It's my understanding that he was a big part of recruiting Nick Kurtz and Devon Blackmon to BYU, who like Hoffman are not LDS.

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

RE: Korenek

Your question is easy to answer--he wants more playing time, more of the spotlight, and to feel more valued.

Your assertion that he is uneasy around LDS is silly, he's never made any comment to support that. To the contrary he grew up around members of the LDS faith, and has cited the influence of LDS friends as one of the reasons he came to BYU in the first place. Saying that his experience is identical to Michael Lloyds is like me saying that you hate all things BYU/LDS because giraffes have spots. It's true that giraffes have spots but that has nothing to do with you.

Best of luck to Matt.

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

@ CB
I don't know why he is leaving BYU. But he also left UCLA and Indiana two of the most prominent programs.
He is probably sick of being number 2 on the team and wants to be the star.
Why would a seventh round (if that) NFL draft pick leave Utah Football? Jake Murphy has his reasons just like Carlino.

caleb in new york
Glen Cove, NY

and of course the Honor Code itself also requires single people to abstain from sexual relations. For people who don't want to abide by that standard, then being enrolled at BYU will interfere with their desires. For those people who don't want to live by that standard that factor will probably substantially outweigh whether or not other BYU students gave them numerous invitations to investigate the Mormon faith.

FT
salt lake city, UT

He's a good kid and teammate and not a bad basketball player. Only he knows the reason why he is leaving and the speculation is just that, speculation. He represented the school really well, especially considering he was not LDS. This is not the time to take pot shots at BYU or Matt. Both will be fine without the other.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

beSmart,

Ya - Jake Murphy is leaving because even a 7th round pick can make millions.

Is that why carlino is leaving? To make millions?

No Utah fan would argue or disagree with a decision to go get rich and play in the NFL over staying at Utah, so you're really using a bad strawman argument there.

nhatch82
Eagle Mountain, UT

@chrisb

Don't know where your insider BYU info comes from. My guess is it is your head.

However there was a very interesting article posted the day before Carlino announce he was transfering called "BYU basketball: Thanks to influx of talent, BYU coach Dave Rose says Cougars will be better next season." by the desnews. I thought it was interesting that it talked about having 14 roster players for next year and only 13 scholarships available. Its possible BYU nudged him out the door. Too many players and a number of players that are more than capable of taking over for Carlino. Just a thought.

souptwins
Lindon, UT

Sorry nhatch but even with being a scholarship short, I can't imagine Carlino would have been the one to not get one next year were he staying. He's played too many minutes for that. It would have been withheld from someone else-- my guess would have been Sharp or Halford. This certainly makes that process a bit easier on the staff with no "nudging" necessary.

BB
Santaquin, UT

@ChrisB

If memory serves countless players left the Ute program a few years back.

is that because they were being pressured to become LDS, or were the Utes just bad?

Truth Machine
Salt Lake City, UT

Chris B

Do athletes frequently leave Notre Dame because they can't handle its faith-based mission?

After all, isn't BYU's adherence to LDS principles nearly identical to this statement from Notre Dame's website:

"Although unwavering in its Catholicism [Mormonism], the University requires no particular belief of its community members and asks only that all be willing to appreciate and nurture the University's mission."

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

@ CB
I was giving Murphy too much credit.
He will most likely be an undrafted free agent
16% of undrafted make it on NFL rosters.
Why not stay a year get a degree and increase draft position?
Must not like Utah much.
and yes more draft picks picked in higher rounds make NFL roster.
The draft is just like the star rating. Not perfect but accurate.

Vladhagen
Salt Lake City, UT

I think a big reason why Matt is transferring is to open up opportunities in graduate school. He can transfer somewhere and begin grad school. This is just some educated speculation, but I think it is a certain possibility.

runnerguy50
Virginia Beach, Va

Carlino simply is not consistent enough of a shooter to make it big. His numbers don't lie.

DraperFamily
USA, CA

Fieldgoal % 2011-2012- .401%
Fieldgoal % 2012-2013- .408%
Fieldgoal % 2013-2014- .385%- DOWN

3Point % 2011-2012- .331%
3Point % 2012-2013- .335%
3Point % 2013-2014- .339%- UNCHANGED

FT% 2011-2012- .759%
FT% 2012-2013- .718%
FT% 2013-2014- .689%- DOWN

And why do we care if her leaves? Nice guy but just an average player at best. Anyone see any improvements over 3 years?

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

nhatch - What insider information? If you're referring to my comment about a recent player leaving, my source was ESPN and the player was Michael LLoyd. Do you consider that insider information? Trust me, ESPN is not considered insider info. Its very public actually, check it out sometime.

BB - Yes, players left Utah because we were bad. We all admitted it. Unlike byu fans, we can call things like they are both ways.

Truth - "Do players frequently leave Notre Dame because of it being a faith based institution"?

I don't know, you tell me. Can you give me proof where a player left because they felt too pressured from others there to become Catholic?

hamaca
Baton Rouge, LA

I'm guessing Carlino had a number of reasons for leaving, some personal and some involving the team, all of which contributed to what may have been a straightforward decision process.

For example, it wouldn't surprise me if he actually volunteered to be the odd man out to give other teammates an opportunity. He has a history of moving on, so maybe he's excited about another opportunity elsewhere--might have happened regardless where he was--a classic case of wanderlust.

Other reasons already mentioned could have factored in, e.g. a particular masters program elsewhere, he's graduated so why continue to be in a position to have to follow the full honor code, desire to be closer to/further from family, maybe would like to live in a warmer climate.

Perhaps any single reason would not have been enough, but collectively it became a no-brainer for him.

I'm sure a lot of BYU fans will continue to follow him, especially if he lands at a recognized program--would be too funny if the school plays BYU this year.

Outside-View
Federal Way, WA

"He is sincerely interested in a Masters Degree not offered at BYU"? Seriously? That excuse is simply and NCAA loophole that more and more kids are taking advantage of and the reason is purely for reason involving the sport that they play.

As for "pressure to join the LDS Church" he has probably been telling people / students for years that he is not interested in joining the Church even before he came to BYU. I doubt that would finally get to him.

I am more disappointed than surprised that he made this decision. I hope it works out for both parties.

Rockarolla
West Jordan, UT

It's a sad situation when a player transfers. Matt had his reasons and we may never know the whole story. It's his business and the business of the Cougar basketball program. Let it be.

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