To "cmsense" repeal is the best option. Anything less than repeal is
only changes things from a sprint to socialism to a walk. The destination is
still the same.Government will never make healthcare or health
insurance cost less overall in the US. The best they can do is take more from
the rich, give to themselves, and then pass on the remainder to the poor.
@ financencoUtah's population is just shy of 3 million.
We've had over 2 million for over 15 years. Where have you been?
To Red shirtcaltec, I have been hoping for a Republican plan for years and
they are big on repeal but short on replace. Sen. Bennett and Sen Widen (Ore)
had the only one that made any sense but it never had traction and the Tea Party
Republicans in Utah tossed Bennett out for being so liberal to entertain such
ideas and to work with a democrat to come to a solution. Now that the ACA is
here and the Republicans are trying to come up with ideas but I don't think
they are there yet. Why don't you inform me because these
Republican plans are very skimpy or maybe they are hiding them. None of them
are well thought out or are more about sound bites than details. The ACA ends a
lot of injustices. The Republicans seem more concerned with protecting
insurance and pharmacutal profits than cutting costs and helping the poor.
To "cmsense" first of all, you have missed the numerous articles lately
that detail some of the plans that the Republicans currently have. You also
missed the many different plans that they had.BUt that is just a
side point. The main point is that you can make an inexpensive quality
healthcare system. The problem is that the government doesn't like it
because it requires that you cut the regulations imposed by government. They
don't like giving up control.
There is no way to make a perfect or inexpensive quality healthcare system.
The ACA is a big step forward. Sadly the Republicans were leading from behind
on this issue and became the party of no rather than put forth a better plan.
It was easier to complain than to be problem solvers. Since it was Obama who
got it done (who wanted but did not get to have a government plan on the
exchanges) they fail to acknowledge the Republican ideas of a marketplace,
competition, private insurance and the similar nature it has to Romneycare etc.
It was never fair to penalize or deny insurance to people for pre existing
conditions, to give big tax credits to corporations but not individuals etc.
Lets make it fair for all, so all have equal opportunity to have insurance! No
special rules for corporations (Republicans) or for Unions(Democrats). How
about a novel idea and treat everyone the same!
It seems to work in Europe, Australia,etc... Doctors might have to take a drop
in pay I have myself. Its a step forward and I like it! I,m sure the bugs will
get worked out of it. Its obvious whos opposed to it., LETS do it!
@rlstinso, Medicare is separately funded by the payroll tax. Medicare funds can
not be spent for Medicaid, which is the government's only expense under
ACA. The "cuts" to Medicare budget have been reduced expenditures to
the Medicare advantage insurance companies, who have been rolling in the dough;
it has nothing to do with Obamacare, despite the efforts of GOP politicians to
claim otherwise. But you are right; many rural areas (where, ironically
medical care is generally cheaper) have seen their insurance prices rise because
of a lack of competition.
@Laura Bilington- I never said I worked in the ER. I work at an orthopedic
hospital and many elderly are no longer covered for hip replacements. Medicare
covers less than it did a year ago because many of those funds are being
funneled to support obamacare. I know that no one wants to admit the horror
stories because I used to be one of you. It's hard to deny when you see it
first hand in your job though. The zip code I live in is considered
rural. Rural healthcare has always been more expensive but has been exacerbated
under the ACA. Our costs have gone up. An EEG for my daughter before ACA cost
$690. Now we pay $950; and since our deductible is much higher than last year,
we will be paying for most of them out of pocket. Her old prescription is not
covered under ACA so we have been searching for a new one that works. So far
none work as good as the old one.I am very happy for your son and
his family. I wish the ACA would cause everyone's situation to improve
It is actually NOT wise, wisemomma, to go without insurance. Not a good choice.
Personal responsibility goes a long way to making our society better. Cause if
you get sick, the rest of us are probably going to be footing the bill for the
costs you can't cover.
@1 wisemomma said "we will not be getting health insurance--the fine is
cheaper!".I certainly hope that you stay healthy, wisemomma.
Because the fine is a drop in the bucket compared to shelling out megabucks for
hospital bills. @BoringGuy. You're right. And his actions
are sad, even though they were predictable.
@rlstinso wrote “The elderly that we have to turn away because of the ACA
makes me sick and depressed.”.What are you talking about?If the person shows up at your ER and it is truly an urgent medical
situation, they will be treated-- federal law. Age or immigration status is
irrelevant.If they are “elderly”, they have coverage
through Medicare, unless they are illegal immigrants. The ACA hasn’t
changed this. “On top of that, healthcare prices in our
area have gone up.” Um..this is something new? Was Obamacare supposed
to stop this?“I haven't met anyone who considers it a
positive thing.”I can’t tell you about your circle of
friends, but my son’s wife got coverage for herself and their child
through her employer. They couldn’t afford to cover my son, so he went
without. Now they have coverage independent of her employer--and better
coverage--for all three, for $140 per month less. Another low income son has
coverage including prescription drugs (previously unavailable at any price)--for
a zero copay through the Medicaid expansion.
We Utahns Republican or not. I think should reconsider our sta..nd on ObamaCare,
Even though we can't claim it on our taxes (that couple extra dollars for
ins.) It gets the young, the old, the needy involved in health care. LETS do it
I say! Why would politics even have an impact on this matter?
I'm sorry but I just don't see what is so great about the ACA and I
haven't met anyone who considers it a positive thing. I supported Obama in
the beginning but the ACA has really hurt my family. Our insurance rates
doubled and our deductible went from $1,000 to $6,000. On top of that,
healthcare prices in our area have gone up. So far this year I have paid over
$3,000 out of pocket to get my family treated. I miss the good old days when
healthcare and health insurance were affordable and actually covered illnesses.
I work at a hospital and I a appalled at little we cover now. The elderly that
we have to turn away because of the ACA makes me sick and depressed.
I guess Obama is not the only one to have run a victory lap...sometimes I feel
that is nothing more than the old, "my red is better than your blue
color," or "my team won, your team didn't, hooray," without any
idea of the underlying concerns or the real facts, like how many are really new?
How many will continue to pay into their plan, especially young people? Will I
be able to find a Dr. or hospital near me when I really need it? What are the
back end costs of this disaster? So, you Obama fans dream on, while
the rest of us cater to you every welfare whim. over 40% on welfare, not
working, on unemployment compensation for several years. There are still
30,000,000 people uninsured. So, who really won here, as you as you
"cheer" your team on? No one. Everyone really lost on this
one. Your Grand kids will foot this bill.
"So Wilf 55, why did you come here? After all, apparently what you had in
western Europe was ideal... "Very simple: the US asked me to
come because of my expertise. I am glad to serve in behalf of the cooperation
between the US and Europe. Please, let us learn from each other. There is much
good on either side.
Please also consider this: For me, and most supporters, the ACA is not about
politics. It is about health care. I wish it, or something close to it, had
existed forty years ago, when I might have been able to have the choice to work
and not be concerned with getting care for my chronic medical condition. So
while many feel the ACA needs work, it is something that has been a gift to
many, and what many like me are glad to see come along for those who will not
face what we did when we were younger. Let's remember the words of the late
Senator Ted Kennedy--Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
No one pays a penalty if they already get insured, can't afford insurance,
or are exempt. And they aren't going to go after the penalty anyway, as
they would if you don't pay your taxes. Btw, all those folks who are now
insured, who would not be if the ACA were magically repealed and their new
insurance were taken away from them would have their healthcare paid for by
taxpayers at Emergency Room prices. And not when they need just checkups and
medication refills, but when their conditions are truly serious emergencies!
That will cost more than some expanded Medicaid or a few subsidy dollars. And it
will come as additional cost to your insurance. not only that, but since the ACA
included shrinking the donut hole for Medicare Part D, ending lifetime caps and
raising costs or cutting coverage to those with preexisting conditions,
considering being a female a preexisting condition, and a lot of other things
too numerous to list here, not only will poor and working poor folks be feeling
it, but so will the elderly and many who don't realize the ACA was working
for them, too. Just in case you wondered...
Obamacare is not working and will never work. The false sign up number really
has no merit even if correct considering more people lost coverage due to the
UNAFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE ACT.We went backwards and expert analysts will tell you
that this health care nonsense Obama has created is simply cost shifting.Taking
care from some to give to others.How about all the companies who had to let go
full time employees due to unaffordability of health care forced on them and
subsequently many more people are part time now or unemployed thus increasing
unemployment more than it was, something else that has been a disaster under the
obama administration. He spends millions on lavious vacations and his wife runs
around the world embarrassing our country with her behavior.The UAHCA is a
disaster and will yield much more negative results that positive and cause more
financial strain on households than it will ever benefit by a wide margin. Wait
and see it is a guarantee to become a downfall of our economy.
The individual stories are informative and heartfelt...if true.The
hyperbolic statements coming from the same people day after day...The DN owns this forum.The DN controls the tenor of the
comments.The DN considers that all the approved comments encourage
civil dialogue and are thoughtful.For example, when the Republicans
are back in control of government as they were 2001-2006, the DN will approve
opposition comments issued day after day offering the same level/amount/type of
Attention DN staff writers. If a person is here on a work visa or here
illegally, they are not Americans, they are Foreign Nationals.Next,
to those of you that say the ACA is working, tell us how?All this
proves is compliance, not actual function.Before the ACA was passed
we were told that there are 40 million uninsured. Their best estimates put 1/3
of the new signups being people that were previously uninsured. That means that
about 5% of the uninsured actually were able to obtain insurance. That alone
should equate to failure.Next, you have the average 32% increase in
premiums after being promised a decrease of $2500.We have the
increases in taxes to medical devices. The people that have lost their doctors.
You can also look at the number of people that are paying more, but have higher
deductibles now. You have the fact that when it was first proposed it was going
to cost about $900 billion, but now its cost is $2.7 Trillion.Tell
us, how is this a success?
Good article! Yes, the time finally came for all those against the ACA to eat
their words. I know that new things are often misunderstood. But as stated from
the beginning....this is a program to help people that don't have insurance
(or who had inadequate insurance). It isn't perfect, but is a great step
forward for our country. God Bless America!
@ 1 wisemomma, while I don't know your circumstances, I'll take your
word for it that the ACA isn't getting it done for you. It doesn't
mean that the ACA is not working for millions and the overall benefit is
positive. You want the subsidy. But you don't qualify. Do you have
insurance now? If you don't, then your position has not changed. In the
end, situations like yours shows that while the ACA does some good, it's
not enough. Single payer system is the only way. Other nations do it. Why
Rush and Sean Hannity stopped it four years ago, didn't they? The truth is
they are ineffective and make millions spinning negatively.
Conservcatives also screamed that SS and Medicare would not work when they went
into affect. Generations later and our country being saved from looking like
the streets of Bangledish they were proved wrong. Conservatives don't make
great leaders and leaders don't conserve America's ability to progress
and innovate. Well done BO, carry on!
Seven million! Wow! And you even get to keep the doctor you like and the policy
you like and, and somebody else is even going to pay for it! I just love being
forced, at the point of a gun, to pay for your subsidy while also paying for my
own doubled priced/reduced coverage "insurance." Wouldn't want to
shrug my "responsibilities," but John sent my ticket and my gold share
and my bags are checked. Have to turn off my computer now. They just made the
boarding call for the plane to Galt's Gulch. No need to forward
My premium went up, but no more than it has gone up for the last 10 years, it
might have even been less. We will have to wait and see what happens next year
before I draw any final opinions on Obamacare. The only thing that strikes me as
ironic is that we are considering it a success the more people sign up....
shouldn't a success be less people reliant on it and more employers
choosing to offer private coverage to their employees?@1
wisemommaI am going to assume you are older and don't have kids
at home, 1799 sounds about inline with what insurance costs for a couple in the
older bracket. Sorry, it's been that way for long time, even before
Obamacare came around. I hate to pull the tea party personal responsibility
line, but it sounds like you need to take some personal responsibility and find
new employment that helps pay for your health insurance. Everyone loves to talk
personal responsibility until they are suddenly the ones in a bad situation.
My girlfriend is one of the people that signed up for this absolutely wonderful
program called the ACA. She has been in constant pain for 3 years. Lost her job
2 years ago because she could not stand the pain anymore. We have gone to over a
dozen doctors and had to pay out of pocket because she was uninsured. Then she
signed up for insurance that was finally affordable. She finally found out that
she had cancer and is going through steps to get better again and get healthy
and get back to being a productive member of society again. Without this new
insurance provided by the ACA she would be burdened for live with medical bills
or dead because she could not afford treatment.People have been
saying how bad it is or that it is practically the worst law since slavery. All
I know is that It has impacted my life for the better and when my girlfriend
recovers she will become my wife. All thanks to an improved healthcare system
where insurance is affordable.
Boring Guy: Obama Care is not working yet. People may be signing u but they
have not paid there premiums. There are people out there that are still
uninsured because Obama Care rejects them. There are also people out there who
are paying higher premiums for the same coverage they had before. And there are
people out there who can not use the same doctor that they had before. Who and
there are people out there who cannot keep their same plan. Poeple are being
forced to pay for benefits that they don't need. Still there
are not enough people signed up to pay for Obama care. Look back at the
beginning of the ACA. how many people did they say they needed to signup. They
keep lowering the number to try and make it look like it is working. Take off the blinders man.
I have family members stuck in the gap created by our legislature. We purchased
a high deductible policy which starts paying after $4,000 in medical costs. The
premium will cost approximately $5000 for the year for an adult and a child. So
we are into it for $9,000. In the mean time, I paid an additional $900 in
Medicaid taxes for 2013 that someone in this State has decided we don't
want or need. Thanks very much. We are very close to taking them
off of insurance and simply using the emergency room as the medical solution.
Got the flu, go to the emergency room - let them figure out how to pay for it.
Hearing some of the far right commenters on this board doesn't make me feel
to bad about sticking it to them in the form of higher medical costs.
Any governor who declines the Medicaid funds is badly hurting his own citizens
by denying them much-needed health care.The only logical reason a
governor would do such an act against the poor is to make his own extremist base
happy -- putting politics above people's needs. Wow.
Sorry to be the one to rain on your parade but Obamacare is not working. My
husband and I do NOT qualify for any federal subsidies, by a very small margin,
$350.00. And since we do not qualify we will have to pay $1799.00 per month,
with very small benefits and a very high deductible. We live on less than $5000
per month. You do the math....we will not be getting health insurance-the fine
Noooooo! It can't work, it just can't! I've been
whining about Obamacare ruining this country for so long, I don't know what
I will complain about if it becomes successful.No, this country
CAN'T be prosperous under the evil Obama! I won't let it!!!!
Republicans and the people will have the last laugh, when all that is said is
NOT done. Any program that is built on lies and deceit will ultimately fail!
It is what it has become. One who lost, an insurance that would pay for what
Medicare would not - as long as it was approved by Medicare - is now enrolled in
a new insurance plan. The new insurance has lower monthly premiums, but has
higher out of pocket costs, including a 2,500 yearly deductible. If one is
wise, save for the deductible - and double save - if surgery and sickness
should occur at the last and beginning of a new year. Also, realize that more
and more medical procedures and tests are not covered. Bottom line, citizens
will pay more out of pocket expenses for ones medical treatments. Unless, one is
enrolled in Medicaid.
" Rates are skyrocketing, even after the infusion of massive, inadequately
funded government subsidies."Absolutely not true. If you had a policy that didn't meet standards maybe your new good
coverage has increased but that's it. In general rates have maintained or
They keep repeating the sky is falling, and yet it doesn't.The
saddest, angriest people I work with listen to this nonsense on their
radios all day, predicting the end of civilization fromhealthcare to the
russians are out to pulverize us in our sleep tonight.It's
working, and the GOP are still in denial.
It was appropriate that the president talk about health care on April
Fools' Day, because it's the biggest joke ever foisted on the American
public. My son has been trying to enroll in it. He is a full-time student. He
has and intern job that pays $192 a week. Obamacare rejected him and told him to
go to Medicaid. When he went to Medicaid, Medicaid rejected him as ineligible.
Please tell me how a student that makes $192 a week has rent food and tuition to
pay can't qualify? Anybody who thinks that Obamacare is working is out of
touch with reality.
I own a company and yes we got the letter telling me that my employee plan was
no longer as of the end of December 2013. But we got with our insurance man and
found another policy and it started on January 15th 2014 our renewal date. And
guess what. We have better coverage for less money. Quite a bit of a savings.
Enough to look into a vision plan for my employees.
Telling people they have to have healthcare or they will be fined and changing
the final sign up date several times is a great way to claim 7 million people
want this. A friend who is without healthcare but did now sign up for Obamacare
can't find a doctor in the area that accepts her insurance. So she has
insurance that she is paying for (well we are paying part of it since she gets
subsidized) and so the money is going into the system but she can't get
treated. I call that Great Coverage. If Government Healthcare is so good,
let's end taxpayer healthcare for all Federal Government Employees
(including the President) and let them pay like everyone else has to get
First, Did anyone vote for this? or were you forced to pay a huge tax for 40
plus years if your 20? Lets see, 700x12= 8400 a year= $336,000 dollars paid plus
5% a year increase for 39 years =?. DID you vote for this? What about the influx
of 7million new people on an over whelmed health care system already? There has
been no prep for new doctors to cover the increase. Doctors are being paid less
than half of what they were 5 years ago on tests yet their cost has increase
considerably. On a list of 20 doctors listed for Obamacare only 2 except it. I
work in Healthcare and this bate n switch is garbage.
ACA is fatally flawed because it's incentives for young, healthy people to
enroll are doomed to failure. By guaranteeing insurance for those with
pre-existing conditions, eliminating low-cost catastrophic plans, and assessing
only a small tax penalty for not enrolling, there is no reason for young,
healthy people to enroll. Just pay the little fine and wait until you get sick
to buy insurance. The result? Rates are skyrocketing, even after the infusion of
massive, inadequately funded government subsidies. Of course that's exactly
what Obama wants, so he can point the accusing finger at insurance companies,
and try to justify fully socialized medicine with gargantuan tax increases. A
free-market based solution would be make insurance portable, such that those
with pre-existing conditions would be covered as long as they signed up for a
new policy within a reasonable period of time. That would provide an incentive
for young, healthy people to stay enrolled in basic, low-cost plans, so that
they can get the insurance they need later in life, while paying something into
the system throughout their lives to make it all work economically.
Any country where companies pay corporate execs hundreds of times as much as
workers get and the country finds the money to always go to war can certainly
find the money to see that all its people get decent health care.
As of 4 days ago, Obamacare reached its lowest approval rating ever at 26%. One
of you Obamacare enthusiasts said people are coming around in support of it. 26%
does not sound like most of America is supporting it. Lowest approval rating for
the law ever does not sound like peopl are coming around in support of it. Just
admit it. It is a horrible law. Even some hard headed democrats are starting to
see the light on this issue.
Let me guess: Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck calls Obama "Fearless
Leader". And the dittoheads have to ditto. Think an original thought
"And the the number of Americans coming around in support of ObamaCare
pretty much disproves the Right Wing theory that the ACA is hugely unpopular
with the American people..." Or proves people will bow and
submit if forced.
Coming from a West-European country where healthcare is universal, I can only
say that Obamacare is finally bringing the U.S. into the club of the most
advanced nations that do care about every person. Affordable health care to all,
also to those with a pre-existing condition, is the way to go. Please don't
use easy words like "socialism" or "communism" to disparage a
basic program for our health.
How many citizens in the USA??? and how does that number compare to the supposed
7 Million who have signed up for this disaster?
Funny how a requirement to get health insurance, which will help all of us, is
so opposed by conservatives who * claim * to be in favor of personal
responsibility. Take a look at the story today about the poor young man who was
in an accident, thrown out of the car and hit twice by passing vehicles. With
no insurance, not only is he faced with a difficult recovery, but he is saddled
with either massive debt or bankruptcy. Opponents and haters, instead of
attacking an effort to fix a serious issue, let's improve the ACA and make
it better, or move to a system like that of the rest of the Western world. We
can do better, rather than bitterly complain.
Yea maybe but... now the new "but" is "but how many have
paid?".It's like watching an argument on a elementary
school playground. Whether it's seven million or eventually 40
million the doomsayers need to be able to explain to this group why they
don't get to fully participate as partners in the health care system. The right preaches personal responsibility and then a system is created
where they can participate fully (payer and payee) and they hate it because it
carries Obama's name. Are you really against citizens having health care
despite a pre-existing condition, are you for life time caps, are you against
wellness checks for everyone..? Jimmy Kimmel asked people on the
street if they were for the ACA or Obamacare and it didn't take him long to
find enough people who hated Oabmacare and loved the ACA to fill a segment.
Obamacare is great, my premiums only doubled.. what a blessing! thanks Obama
"You WILL do what we say or you will pay the penalty. We're from the
government. We're here to help" ~ Fearless Leader
There is so much misinformation 1. Prior to the ACA, over 50 million
Americans were uninsured. We have to do more.2. If someone did not
complete the enrollment (like the lady in this article) they were not included
in the 7.1 million.3. The governor decided to take over $430M of OUR money
and give it away to other states rather than participate in the medicate program
that would cover families ineligible for the ACA. That leaves over 130,000 poor
Utahans uninsured. When they get sick, who do you think pays for that?4.
Every INDEPENDENT accounting office has said the ACA will save us money. Claims
it will gut our economy are fear based, not reality based.People
need to set aside their anger and preconceived ideas and think this through.
Odd. The review board for DNews comments did not allow my post because I called
our President brave and congratulated him on this wonderful accomplishment said
that those who were fearful of this act had been duped by doomsayers. Yet above
I read where the writer refers to our President as "the Dear Leader." I
know this note probably won't be allowed either, but Des News
appropriateness staff? Look at yourselves in the mirror, please. You may be
biased against Obamacare, but don't let that keep you from doing your job
fairly and honestly. Congrats Obamacare. You have done it! And congrats to all
who fought in this toughest domestic battle in decades.
@ Mainly MeNice of you to step away from your Fox News recordings to
weigh in! I for one " believe the line from the Dear Leader" along with
"Boring Guy", seven million who have signed up for the ACA and the rest
of the population that voted the POTUS in TWICE! Much to yours and the rest of
the Repubs. dismay, the ACA is a landmark law for the good of the country. Lets
be honest, it isn't the ACA that rankles the Right Wing, its the fact that
Obama is president! Nothing more nothing less!
Writer must be a RINO follower for Senator Hatch. Obamacare is a disaster. They
claim over 6 million people signed up. Which is a false number. But we will
use it, for the sake of arguement. They claim over 6 million. Of that ask
these questions. Of that 6 million, how did they come up with the 4 million
people to sign up in two weeks, on a website that seldom works? Of that 6
million, how many actually paid for it, not just leave it in the cart? How many
were sent to medicaid or medicare instead? How many are getting subsidies for
it? Both of the last two questtions are paid from taxpayers. If we have only 6
million that signed up, why are there 48 million without healthcare, and only
10% of those previously uninsured, signing up for the program? The numbers are
flawed, not factualy. Like anything touted by the D.C. folks. Last question.
Since when did Utah have a population of millions? If that is the case, we
should have more representation in Washington. But only if really conservative.
What about those that lost their insurance because of the ACT? Coming from a
country where health care is socialized I have seen the pros and cons of this
system and I would NEVER go back. Thanks to Obama his ACT has become my worst
Really Mainly Me? You don't think Americans believe in Obama? I guess you
didn't notice that Obama won the Presidency TWICE by impressive margins.And the the number of Americans coming around in support of ObamaCare
pretty much disproves the Right Wing theory that the ACA is hugely unpopular
with the American people . . . Doncha think?So you think the ACA was
designed to "gut the economy of this nation?" That's an interesting
theory.That's so Communists can take over, right? . . . Or just
how would that work?
When you go fishing, you put a lure or a worm on the hook to catch the fish.
The fish bits it and then is "HOOKED" and can't get away. This is
the way "Obamacare" works. It hooks you and then we are all pulled into
a program that will kill our health care, not improve it. This is just the WORM
and nothing more. I am glad some people are getting insurance for the first
time, but it won't last, this program will implode and then the GOVT will
take over all of it, and we lose. I hope we can get rid of it after Nov. and
put some real programs in it's place. At least I can dream about it. We
have to get rid of the worst President in history, and enough in the Senate to
over ride a veto would be a start.
Under duress, threats of fine and imprisonment not to register with the federal
government can hardly be called a success pitch for Obamacare. Just because
people are forced to register by law does not mean they will pay the government
for health care that will not be provided.Very few can afford this
health care including on SS who can't afford the medicare and $4,000/yr
prepayments and 50% of cost coverage after the prepayment every year, they have
to register anyway and still can't get insurance.So far with
7,000,000+, paying feds a registration cost for the privilege to buy insurance
under duress, the overhead of $17,000,000,000,000 regulator laws on a revenue of
$1.7 Trillion premium. It cost 10 times more to operate the program doesn't
include hospital, doctor, prescription costs according to team Obama's own
prediction, a known failure and lie.FYI, its not the republicans
combating this health care, they want it too so business and labor can't
use health care as condition of employment. Then it leaves the balance of 293
million Americans who don't want to belong to Obama care, the majority have
a voice and choice too.
@ Mainly MeThe sky is not falling. I don't think healthcare
reform went far enough, but nonetheless, the Affordable Care Act is a good thing
for this country. But if you had another idea on how to lower healthcare costs,
expand coverage for more citizens, and find a way to pay for the healthcare of
the aging population, we would love to hear it. Keep in mind that the old
system was extremely inefficient and was unsustainable....
To me it is a big fat lie and joke. Obamacare is going to ruin this country and
the ones who are going to have to pay for it is the younger people. He lied to
the Country in saying that you can keep your plan as well as you can keep your
doctor or Hospital. I am one of those who he lied to. I know longer can go to
where I was going. So you just wait all of you who think that this is great in
few years from now you will have egg on your face and see that it was nothing
but a stinking lie.
Healthcare > Fearmongering.
@boringguy. "It looks like ObamaCare is working." ??????Are you kidding? 7 million signed up, many of which haven't even paid a
premium? Patients with cancer finding out they are not insured? 300 Million
Americans and 7 million are "signed up" and it's successful? How
pathetic. And it's a government program, kinda like the Post Office which
is also on the verge of bankruptcy and Social Security which is always in danger
of not being available to seniors who paid into it for years.
Check the date today. The announcement of 7.1 million enrolled is an April
Fool's day prank...Now who is going to self identify as someone for whom
this date is eponymously named, by stating that they believe this number is
anywhere near accurate? Even if it was, it is pitifully small
compared to the number of people who allegedly could not wait for this law to
pass so they could get "coverage".
Re: Mainly "Really? You honestly believe the line from the Dear Leader? I
didn't really believe there were people who truly, in their hearts believed
that socialist line." Socialist? I only wish. It's an old story, but
let me repeat - the ACA is an only slightly rehashed proposal of the Heritage
Foundation which in turn was the model for Romneycare in Massachusetts. Now I could give you a real socialist solution. In the meantime Obama
and Company can feel pretty good about their success with this, and the
Republicans are now free to find another line of attack against Obama.Lastly your "Dear Leader" moniker is getting really old, and is
sophomoric and disrespectful.
The lady applied but doesn't qualify but she does count as one of the seven
million, how many more are the same way? A lot I would dare say. With most of
the new signees signing up for Medicaid, who is paying for all this?
The Not Affordable At All Care Act is going to gut the economy of this nation,
which is precisely what it was designed to do.
@BoringGuyReally? You honestly believe the line from the Dear
Leader? I didn't really believe there were people who truly, in their
hearts believed that socialist line.
It looks like ObamaCare is working. All the Republicans who've been yelling
and screaming about the demise of the health system must feel a little silly
right about now.