@uuEven with the losses you identified, the Cougs went dancing for
the 8th time in 10 years... How many times have the utes been invited to the
dance in the last 10 years? How long has it been since the utes went bowling?
How long has it been since the utes beat the Cougs in Provo? What's the
utes record against BYU the past 7 years???nuff said...
Sweater In RaftersFranklin, IN"Weak is weak...our OOC was
weak...your Conference is weak. We can change ours....you cant..."LOL!!!Go Utes; Go Coach K; Go Pac-12!!!
sweater manUtah won in the Huntsman Center.Utah would
have been destroyed in the Marriott Center where the Utes have NEVER beaten BYU
during the Dave Rose era.
SKY...We beat you going away SOS fan...Keep winning on paper and
losing on the court if you want.
Sweater In Rafters"Weak is weak...our OOC was weak...your
Conference is weak. We can change ours....you cant..."Our
overall SOS was #17; good luck trying to match, let alone beat, that.Can you make Washington State a better team. Can you ensure that no other
conference teams will tank? Can you ensure that the PAC 12 won't return to
being just as mediocre as it was in 2012?You might actually have to
leave the friendly confines of the HC in order to improve your OOC SOS?What makes you think you can improve your SOS without suffering significantly
As I read these comments I can't help but think that next season in both
basketball and football it's going to be the litmus test for both of these
programs. Utah basketball has shown steady improvement in the PAC 10+2, if they
can sustain that improvement next year, the BYU fans will have to admit the Utes
are the real deal. The same is true with Ute Football, Ute fans seem to think
that the gap is closing between them and the rest of the PAC 10+2, record wise
it seems to be widening. Next year will be the true measuring stick. Real tough
schedule, can the Utes finally compete? As far as BYU, with their huge advantage
in resources they should be able to dominate the WCC in basketball. The less
challenging football schedule should guarantee perceived success. A 10-2 record
in football should be a lock. But, due to the weak schedule, your record
probably won't translate to a top 25 ranking. Finally, the Utes and Cougars
don't have to compete head to head with each other. So your challenges
should be measurable apart from one other. I hope both of you have success.
Actually, 4 of BYU's 23 wins (17%) came against non-D1 or 200+
ranked teams.10 of Utah's 21 wins (48%) came against non-D1 or 200+
ranked teams.It was obvious to any knowledgeable fan looking at
Utah's non-conference schedule, that the Utes had already written off
getting an at large bid to the tournament with that pathetic schedule.Chris Hill and Krystko obviously underestimated Utah's improvement and
purposely chose to play one of the weakest non-conference schedules in the
country to give the Utes a chance to finish above .500.
VegasUteI find it amusing that Utah fans are so clueless about the
impact a weak non-conference schedule can have on a team's overall SOS.
Unlike football, almost half of the basketball schedule, 12 of 30 games (40%),
is played versus non-conference opponents.#32 BYU(23-12) -
non-conference SOS #3; overall SOS #17#79 Utah(21-12) - non-conference SOS
#347; overall SOS #104Versus RPI Top 100BYU 8-7Utah
5-9BYU played 15 games versus RPI Top 100, and finished with a
winning record.Utah played 14 games versus RPI Top 100, and finished with
a losing record.10 of Utah's 21 wins (and one loss) came
against non-D1 or 200+ ranked teams.3 of BYU's 23 wins ( and no
losses) came against non-D1 or 200+ ranked teams.Despite the
clueless "weak WCC" put downs, BYU played a much tougher schedule than
Utah, and still finished with a better record.btw, unlike football,
where Sagarin's rating were included in the BCS formula, the NCAA Selection
Committee looks at RPI, and couldn't care less about Sagarin's
ratings.#32 BYU - IN the Big Dance#79 Utah - not even
consideredis proof of that.
The Utes 2013-14 preseason schedule was not put together years in advance.
Months more likely. Might be why they were unable to get good teams to play
them. Plus they refused to do road games. Hopefully, it
won't be the same this fall.
"when throwing rocks at a glass house, remember that what goes around, comes
Coach K has the right attitude. I like that he is now expecting the team to
step up to the next level. Last season's pre-season schedule was a
necessary step in the process. Next season we will definitely see a stronger
schedule with Kansas already on the schedule. Go Utes!
JD"It's amazing how many people (probably who cheer for
Provo and live in Sandy) who do not understand that b-ball schedules are put
together years in advance."It's amazing how little some
people know about b-ball scheduling.Unlike football, OOC basketball
schedules are put together on a yearly basis. Although a few games (mostly
pre-season tournaments and a few home-and-homes) are scheduled a couple years in
advance, most pre-season games are scheduled in the spring or summer preceding
the season.Case in point, who is Utah playing OOC next season?Utah hasn't announced the opponents, because the games are still
being scheduled.Next time, try doing a little research before
2ferStarting from rock bottom, it would be hard for Utah to have
anything but an upward trend.Still, there's a long way to go to
actually being a team competing for a conference championship, especially when
Utah can't win on the road.
Utah will take another step forward next year and be in the hunt for the PAC 12
championship. Coach K has everyone scared of where he is taking this program.
Theres enough talent coming into the program and the development of a couple
freshman. Next season could be huge for the Utes.
I believe that this team is known as a bunch that will fold if pressure is
applied late in games. Even lowly USC turned a rout at Galen into a three point
contest by simply pressuring in the final minutes and the Utes were lucky to
pull out a win. Next season, every team facing the Utes next season will be
looking to simply turn up the heat with full court pressure, hoping that Brandon
will dribble it off of his foot, or travel--that Jordan will force a long
shot--or that Dalin will hand the ball to a member of the wrong team, if things
get tight. Two solutions that might work are either for Brandon Taylor to learn
to handle pressure, or for the team to place the ball squarely in the hands of
Delon Wright whenever the opposing team decides to come hard.
It's amazing how many people (probably who cheer for Provo and live in
Sandy) who do not understand that b-ball schedules are put together years in
advance. Utah did not have many options to improve their schedule at the last
minute before the season began. Anyone who thinks that Coach K wants to have a
winning record against weak competition clearly does not understand how
competitive the guy is. Winning is a habit, the Utes got a taste of winning
again and improved themselves beyond what anyone thought would have this year.
Also, when you play in the third strongest conference in the nation against the
best teams out there and already have 20 conference games that are more
difficult than most teams face in six years of schedules, having a super
difficult preseason is not necessarily needed. Utah climbed out of the bottom
half of the league this year, they are far from the basement, nor did they
finish in the basement.
"3-15 (11th), 5-13 (12th), 9-9 (8th) in their first three seasons"I see a clear upward trend. I hope Coach K keeps doing what he's
I agree worf, the utes have made an impact.... My friends at WSU agree as
well... They told me that they finally got to go to a bowl game and they finally
won a conference basketball game... They totally credit Utah for those
Finally! Finally we actually hear it from a coach/player that they want to be
part of the elite. I understand the mindset that maybe Coach K had in knowing
being part of the top 3rd of the Pac this past season was probably a stretch,
and as frustrating as it was a fan to sense a lack desire from the players to be
up there, it's awesome to hear Coach K set the tone for next season.This program has made a miraculous 180 and it's because of Coach K
and these players. I think we needed everything this past season brought us.
Although the non-conference schedule killed us in the end, we probably
would've have lost 4 or 5 non-conference games had we played tougher teams
and we may have seen no improvement. And those close losses will definitely make
these guys better over time.Coach K understood how crucial it was
for these guys to get wins under their belt and build confidence and moving
forward I know he'll set up this program for success. We are finally seeing
the benefits of the Pac-12 transition come to life and it's exciting.
The Utes might want to start with something a little more challenging than the
350th worst pre-season schedule in the country played almost entirely in the
friendly confines of the HC.That might toughen them up enough to be
able to win an occassional road game, which is what it will take if the Utes are
ever going to climb out of the PAC 12 basement:3-15 (11th), 5-13
(12th), 9-9 (8th) in their first three seasons with only a couple of road
wins.Or Krystko can go on pretending that beating Saint
Katherine's and Evergreen State is going to impress the selection