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Published: Monday, March 31 2014 7:54 p.m. MDT

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intrinsicrewards
Salem, VA

Devin Carter, a wrestler from Virginia Tech, had a fully torn ACL and surgery in early December. He just wrestled in the ACC tournament where he was named wrestler of the year and then went on to NCAA tournament on OK City and made the finals. Everyone also told him it would be 8-10 months after his surgery in December. This young athlete worked extremely hard through alot of pain to get back quickly. I know every case is different, but his case is something that should be looked at as a model and maybe the trainers should call VT and get some pointers on how he rehabbed so quickly. They would not have let him come back too early and risk further injury in such a tough sport.

Good luck to Kyle with the rehab...

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

intrinsicrewards, that's a nice story, sounds like a tough kid. But you're right, every case is different, and every sport has different demands. Biomechanically, ACLs are generally tougher on taller guys (and gals), and basketball is one of the toughest sports on them with all the change of direction at high speeds. Wrestling's most common knee injury is the LCL, so it's not uncommon to see quicker return from cruciate ligament injuries than collateral ligaments. Having met a lot of BYU's medical staff, I have pretty good confidence in their ability to rehab and return him to play judiciously and timely. That said, while I don't know about his situation specifically, I'd be pretty surprised to see him return to full minutes early in their season.

Ken
Sandy, UT

It isn't that a one and done is the worst thing, it's just not impressive. But when a program leads the nation in worst tournament performance(most dances without a final four) that is pretty much the worst thing. 86 teams have made it to the final four at least once. Byu is not among those 86

OC Fan
Orange County, CA

To improve, the 2014-2015 team needs to add a solid offensive and defensive post player, another consistent outside shooter, and better free throwing.

BlueCoug
Orem, UT

Ken

Poor jealous BYU hater.

Being one-and-done for 2014 is certainly MUCH better than being one-and-done FOR THE ENTIRE DECADE.

Both of BYU's basketball programs, men's and women's, have been to the Sweet Sixteen since the last time the Utes even won a single game in the Big Dance.

btw, BYU has won more games in the NCAA tournament than many of those 86 Final Four teams. Let's not forget that in 1944, Utah only had to win ONE game, to get to the Final Four. In 1980, BYU's Elite Eight team won as many games (3) as Utah's 1944 NCAA championship team.

Esquire
Springville, UT

I fully expect BYU to be better. The teams needs to toughen up mentally and take the conference more seriously. I do think the future is bright.

Reno Cougs Fan 68
Reno, NV

Ken,
How was that one and done in the NIT against a team from the lowly WCC in a high school gym that the MUSS could not fill up? BYU and Gonzaga were both sell outs in that gym, guess Utah was of no interest to St. Mary's fans!!! Good luck next year when Utah plays in the MC!!!

Go Cougs!!! Rise Up!!!

2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0
Ogden, UT

bluecoug - 4 final 4 appearances is our history is better than anything byu has to show.

Byu has been to a single sweet 16(and no farther) in 30 years, and byu fans think that is something to brag about?

LOL

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

"...That group will bolster an experienced nucleus — WCC Player of the Year Tyler Haws; guards Kyle Collinsworth, Matt Carlino, Anson Winder, Skyler Halford and Frank Bartley IV; and forwards Nate Austin, Luke Worthington and Josh Sharp.

With no seniors graduating, the Cougars lose just one player, forward Eric Mika, who departs for an LDS mission in May.

That leaves BYU with 14 players on the roster and just 13 scholarships available...".

With the Cougars being guard heavy, it looks like Halford might be the odd man out.

The Cougars need someone (or 2 or even a committee would do) to fill up the Mika minutes.

Hope Collingsworth rehab goes well.

Coach Rose and staff have done and will continue to do an excellent job.

I always root for the Cougar players... except when their playing the Utes...of course.

Reasonable thinker
PAC Country, CA

2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0,
I have not seen any bragging about BYU's appearance just fact are being presented. The only thing I see is immature, jealous ute fans coming on to BYU and tearing them down.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

We could easily be way better.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Defense, defense, defense. Without it, the influx of new players won't make a difference.

That BT Hacker
Lindon, UT

"The Cougars will add transfers Chase Fischer (Wake Forest) and Jamal Aytes (UNLV); returned LDS missionaries Isaac Neilson and Jordan Chatman; and freshman Ryan Andrus (American Fork High)."

How many of these guys were actually with the team this year? I think Chase, Jamal and Isaac were all with the team and practiced at least part of this year. Jordan is the only true RM.

Cletus from Coalville
Coalville, UT

We are easily way better even though we don't go to the NCAA tournament very much like byu does.

Go Utes!

Serenity Now
Highland, UT

If KC can work on his outside/free throw shooting during rehab (should be plenty of time to do this and nothing else), and perimeter shooting improves with Fischer, Chatman and returning guys, I see a better record next year. But Mika will be tough to replace, so next year we'll likely resemble a lot of the 3-point shooting teams we faced in the WCC. Hopefully Aytes and Nielsen/Andrus can help us in the paint.

Austin: Go get your outside jumper working again, and develop some low-post moves! We need more than just rebounding and hustle plays from you....

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

@Ken - "It isn't that a one and done is the worst thing, it's just not impressive. But when a program leads the nation in worst tournament performance(most dances without a final four) that is pretty much the worst thing."

I don't care much for ancient history. The worst thing would be to root for a team that was so poor they didn't get invited to the dance for nine of the last ten years. That's not impressive.

Here's my forecast for the next few years.

2014-2015 - Better than previous year. NCAA likely.
2015-2016 - Worse than previous year. NIT likely.
2016-2017 - Much better than previous year. Advancing in NCAA probable.
2017-2018 - Much better than previous year. Advancing in NCAA to Sweet 16 likely.
2018-2019 - Better than previous year. Advancing in NCAA to Elite 8 or higher likely.

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

cougfanintx,

You don't care much for ancient history?

You do mean except for the year 1984 of course right?

LOL to byu fans who think ancient history in football matters but in basketball it doesnt'

flip, flop, flip, flop

DEW Cougars
Sandy, UT

Get well KC and please practice on your Free Throw daily. Let your brother Chris being the ball to you while your doing FT! Good luck.

sportyguy
sandy, UT

@BlueCoug

At least use accurate facts. Utah went to the sweet 16 in 2005 which is hardly "one and done".

I would highly recommend that you don't try to go into NCAA tournament stats when comparing the two programs. BYU has been a decent team but don't kid yourself about the success they have had in the NCAA tournament, especially when trying to compare it to Utah's.

Objectified
Tooele, UT

@ Chris and Ken;

You two would be comical if not so actually clueless when it comes to college basketball. Please do some research and tell us how many teams (out of the current 351 NCAA college basketball teams) have made it to the NCAA tournament 7 of the last 8 years?
Hint: BYU is in a very select and enviable group. Even your hidden envy is poking through.

BTW: Utah has been to that tournament a grand total of once during that same period. Statistically, BYU is doing 700% better than Utah since Rose became BYU's head coach... using the NCAA tournament as a benchmark.

The comical part is that you two have to go back to before WWII to find a way to compare favorably with BYU, when the Utes got to the Final Four in 1944 by winning just 3 games and with only a third as many NCAA basketball teams playing as compared to today.

You ridiculed BYU fans for referring to 1984 during the football season. Now you two are going back another 40 years beyond that. Can you say hypocritical?

Using even semi-recent history, BYU truly dominates.

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