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Published: Tuesday, April 1 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "mark" actually, they did. See the CBO report title "The Effects of a Minimum-Wage Increase on Employment and Family Income". On page 1 of their report they state "Effects of the $10.10 Option on Employment and Income. Once fully implemented in the second half of
2016, the $10.10 option would reduce total employment by about 500,000 workers, or 0.3 percent, CBO projects."

That is directly from their report. You can either believe it or not, but that is what the CBO states.

You seem to forget the video's of the people declaring how Obama is going to pay their mortgages, fill their gas tanks, and so forth. Those were the people voting for Obama.

StalwartSentinel
San Jose, CA

RedShirt

Uhm, no - it is not whatever I want to believe. D&C 56:17 clearly has a footnote defining "poor" that you failed to account for and, when I notified you of your error, rather than correct your ways, you proceeded to make an additional mistake by referencing a footnote from a completely different verse. There is no "belief" involved here. You were mistaken the first time and the second, show some integrity and own up to it.

The point you made that "greed knows no economic bounds" was never part of the conversation, LDS Liberal didn't even suggest it. Your point was a non sequitur and is irrelevant.

Again, if you're going to disparage people, at least try to be accurate. This is about the minimum wage so those folks are not looking for a handout from "those who work" - the working class is categorically constituted by people who work.

Re: Buffett - He's asking to be taxed more - he does not want special socialist elite "privelages (sic)". You literally contradicted yourself in the space of three sentences.

Finally, your blanket assumption that the rich "produce more" is demonstrably untrue.

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

Yeah, see the problem is that you cherry pick.

What they actually said, not cherry picked:

"Once fully implemented in the second half of 2016, the $10.10 option would reduce total employment by about 500,000 workers, or 0.3 percent, CBO projects (see the table below). As with any such estimates, however, the actual losses could be smaller or larger; in CBO’s assessment, there is about a two-thirds chance that the effect would be in the range between a very slight reduction in employment and a reduction in employment of 1.0 million workers."

They also said with a minimum wage increase to 9.00 an hour the effect might be a very slight increase in employment to a 200,000 loss.

Those are broad ranges, and absolutely not what you claimed, that they said there WOULD be a 500,000 job loss from a minimum wage increase.

Also the report discusses various methods and thinking that come to very different conclusions about the effect a minimum wage increase would have. It really does not come to any hard conclusions.

LOU Montana
Pueblo, CO

When wages are low turnover rate is high, absentee workers, loss of production, cost of retraining, mistakes happen more frequently, on the job accidents are more frequent, medical costs are much higher........I guess the employer is willing to accept these costs.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@Redshirt1701
" Yes, minimum wage was implemented as a racist policy. In New York in the 1930's, the construction companies were bringing in non-union blacks onto their construction sites. The blacks would work for less money than their white counterparts. So, to stop this practice they implemented a minimum wage."

Let me get this straight... increasing wages to people is a racist policy? Hey, do you think the same about conservatives saying that illegal immigrants are driving down wages because they work for less under the table, is that racist policy too? Then again it must be even more racist since your example involves increasing black wages while the other involves booting people out of the nation.

RedShirtCalTech
Pasedena, CA

To "Schnee" it is a racist policy when you enact it to prevent blacks from being brought into the city. What would you call a law designed to make it so that you could keep out a specific group of people?

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

Problems, however, had emerged with respect to construction of a federal hospital in Bacon’s New York district. Local contractors, he explained, had submitted bids on the project that reflected local standards. But the contract was awarded to an Alabama firm. The latter, Bacon noted, “... brought some thousand non-union laborers from Alabama into Long Island, N.Y.; ... They were herded onto this job, they were housed in shacks, they were paid a very low wage and the work proceeded.” In Bacon’s view, the least government could do, when contracting, was “to comply with the local standards of wages and labor prevailing in the locality where the building construction is to take place.” His measure did not seek to inflate wages artificially but, rather, to assure that government respected the existing local standard. The bill was not adopted.
. . . In a note to Labor Secretary James J. Davis, “The essence of the thing as I see it is: Is the Government willing for the sake of the lowest bidder to break down all labor standards and have its work done by the cheapest labor that can be secured and shipped from State to State?” - Whittaker

common sense in Idaho
Pocatello, id

Redshirt - Sorry, but Sentinel is winning the discussion here. I am also in favor of a minimum wage increase. You say only teenagers work minimum wage jobs. WRONG. I know college educated individuals who cannot find work, try as they might. Sending out hundreds of resumes. They are supporting families and in some cases they can't even find a minimum wage job. You know, "we'd love to hire you but you're overqualified." They aren't lazy, shiftless bums who want a handout. They have earned a right to a decent paying job but they can't find one.

Corporate profits are at an all time high. Real unemployment is incredibly high. Corporations stockpile billions in cash reluctant to hire anyone. In my current employment overtime is mandatory. Why, because they won't hire anyone. We'd rather see them hire more people. But they won't.

An increase in the minimum wage is not only the right thing to do, it's the moral thing to do. It's not going to break anyone.

Idaho has more minimum wage workers than any other state. We're very proud of that here.

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