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  • ArgoFY Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 3, 2014 11:36 a.m.

    @Skywalker:

    I'll be the first to admit Utah has struggled overall in the PAC. But tell me, how much of a punching bag did the Stanford team look like when getting off the plane in Palo Alto last October?

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    April 2, 2014 10:40 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    Take out the three gimmies versus Big Sky teams, and the Utes are 16-19 since joining the PAC, but more importantly, 9-18 in the conference, with only one bowl game in three seasons.

    Bottom line, the Utes are fulfilling their role as PAC 12 punching bags very well; you even helped Washington State qualify for a bowl.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    April 2, 2014 8:17 a.m.

    Navel - Lets try not bragging about a .486 record.

    Its nothing to brag about.

    I'm hardly content about a .486 record and its not something to brag about.

    No big time program will brag about being .486.

    So stop acting like we should be.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    April 1, 2014 2:58 p.m.

    Christopher B:

    Utah has in fact gone 19-19 since joining the Pac-12.

    Ariz: 1-2
    ASU: 0-3
    Cal: 1-1
    Colo: 2-1
    Ore: 0-1
    OSU: 1-2
    Stan: 1-0
    UCLA: 1-2
    USC: 0-3
    UW: 0-2
    WSU: 2-1
    USU: 1-1
    Weber: 1-0
    N Col: 1-0
    MSU: 1-0
    Pitt: 1-0
    GTech: 1-0

    and of course we threepeated you.

    Whoops! My bad. We're 18-19. Not much difference though. We drop from a .500 record to a .486. That's still a lot better than the cougars would have done given the same strength of schedule. And that's a fact. Just look at our common opponents since 2011. We've beaten more teams, and we've beaten them by a larger margin of victory. Edge: Utah.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    April 1, 2014 11:50 a.m.

    Navel, No response from where you got your 19-19 record for Utah? So in other words, you just pulled that out of thin air? Because its not based in reality.

    Why didn't you go ahead and just say we were 49-0 since joining the Pac 12? That's as true as your claim is. Don't make things up man, there's no need.

  • UU Provo, UT
    April 1, 2014 11:20 a.m.

    just a nobody,

    Yes, I agree with you. I've seen other Utah fans make similar comments on these threads. I think we all assumed that Schulz would be 4 or 5 on the depth chart by now.

  • UU Provo, UT
    April 1, 2014 11:17 a.m.

    @Reno Cougs Fan 68 "Playing the hardest schedule in the country does not mean much if you can't win more then you lose"

    Same can be said for BYU's non conference basketball schedule. Y fans said it was brutal, and maybe it was, but BYU went 2-5 against their decent non-conference opponents.

    WINS
    Texas
    Stanford

    LOSSES
    U Mass
    Iowa State
    Wichita St
    Utah
    Oregon

  • just a nobody murray, UT
    April 1, 2014 10:18 a.m.

    Am I the only concerned that Manning and Cox can't seperate themselves from Adam Schultz? If they aren't good enough to put themselves head and shoulders above him I don't think we should be counting on them. I've seen Schultz in action, and I for one hope he isn't the guy we are relying on if the first stringer happens to get hurt again. There are 5 quarterbacks in the state of Utah in high school I would rather turn the position over to then Schultz.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    April 1, 2014 9:18 a.m.

    Big 12, 2020,
    Nice of you to bring up the team you will not be playing the next two seasons on a strictly Utah article!!! At least we BYU fans admit that Utah is still a rival!!! Playing the hardest schedule in the country does not mean much if you can't win more then you lose!!! I really like Coach Whitt but this will be his last year at the helm if he does not finish better then 5-7 and go to a bowl game this year!!!

    Go Cougs!!! Rise Up!!!

  • jbkhbrmz Saint George, UT
    March 31, 2014 11:24 p.m.

    @Murray19
    Yes, Logan Stott is at Utah.

  • UU Provo, UT
    March 31, 2014 9:28 p.m.

    @Chamberlain "Last year, you couldn't even beat lowly Washington State, a team that lost to Colorado State in the New Mexico Bowl"

    Hey, at least Washington State made it to a bowl game. I can't say the same for Virginia, a team BYU lost to. Did you know that Virginia logged two wins last season; BYU and the Virginia Military Institute.

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    March 31, 2014 5:07 p.m.

    It's obvious that the Utes will go undefeated this year and win the national championship and Travis Wilson will the Heisman.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    March 31, 2014 5:06 p.m.

    Kind of funny hearing all about these fine quarterbacks and all of the mighty depth and only last week the headline was about 'thinning the herd'.

    So which is it Ute fans, thinning the herd or having depth? LOL

  • Crow Sandy , UT
    March 31, 2014 4:46 p.m.

    @ byu fans it gives me a good laugh when you bring up bronco's record against the PAC now tell me how many of those teams had winning records? Now compare that to Whits wins over PAC schools. Beating 0-12 Washington on a fluke call was impressive byu fans

  • Yankees24 SLC, UT
    March 31, 2014 4:12 p.m.

    Naval Vet,

    Do you even watch your Utes? How do you figure they are 19-19 in the conference?
    2011: 4-5
    2012: 3-6
    2013: 2-7

    Thanks for the laugh though. Btw, you didn't hear me saying the BYU would be dominating a prestigious conference did you? All I said is that Utah continually beats their chest about beating BYU but haven't done anything since joining the Pac.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 31, 2014 3:37 p.m.

    Christopher B:

    "We aren't 19-19 in the Pac 12 in football. Where did you make that up from?"

    What's up with the straw man? Couldn't make an argument without one? Well then I guess you're tacitly accepting my point that Utah is in fact 19-19 (.500) since joining the Pac-12, and that we've actually fared slightly better than your other big brother -- TCU -- since elevating our program to a "big boy" league.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 31, 2014 3:33 p.m.

    royalcherrypicker:

    "Now, all U have is whiny excuses about the PAC being too tough, yet Bronco is 9-9 versus the PAC 12 teams, including wins over UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Oregon State, Washington State, and Arizona."

    Name one UCLA team that the cougars beat that the Utes didn't beat that year also. Name one Oregon team that the cougars beat that the Utes didn't beat that year also. And ditto for UW, OSU, WSU, and Ariz.

    Oh, you can't can you? Okay, then how about naming one of those aforementioned teams that you beat that Utah also beat that year, where you beat them by more points than Utah.

    Oh, you can't do that either, can you?

    Bottom line: Utah has owned you. U > Y every which way you look at it.

    As for your 5-1 lifetime record vs. OU and UT -- how many of those teams finished with 9 or more wins? And last I checked, not only are you 0-4 your last 4 games vs. Utah, you're also 0-4 your last 4 vs. TCU.

  • Christopher B Ogden, UT
    March 31, 2014 3:10 p.m.

    Naval Vet - We aren't 19-19 in the Pac 12 in football. Where did you make that up from?

  • royalblue Alpine, UT
    March 31, 2014 2:55 p.m.

    Navel Vet

    "Or trust TCU, who themselves went 11-14 (.440) since moving on up to the Big 12."

    How hard could the Big 12 be?

    BYU is 5-1 lifetime versus the two big dogs of the Big 12, Oklahoma and Texas.

    Before their invite to the PAC, Utah fans were claiming Utah could compete with anybody in the country.

    Now, all U have is whiny excuses about the PAC being too tough, yet Bronco is 9-9 versus the PAC 12 teams, including wins over UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Oregon State, Washington State, and Arizona.

  • Chamberlain Salt Lake City, UT
    March 31, 2014 2:40 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    "Utah has been in the Pac-12 for 3-yrs now..."

    and has gotten worse every year - 4-5, 3-6, 2-7, 9-18 overall.

    Last year, you couldn't even beat lowly Washington State, a team that lost to Colorado State in the New Mexico Bowl, to qualify for a bowl;

    and you barely slipped past Colorado(4-8) 24-17 in the Pillow Fight in the Rockies game.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 31, 2014 2:14 p.m.

    Yankees24:

    "I think it's about time we stop hearing the excuse of how hard the Pac 12 is."

    That's because all you know about is playing WAC football. Once you've finally played a Top-5 strength of schedule, and finished better than one OT game away from the postseason, then tell us how a brutal schedule is no excuse.

    "Yes, we all know how tough of a conference it is. But when you ask to be put in a big boy conference then it's time to start acting like a big boy and win some games."

    Utah has been in the Pac-12 for 3-yrs now, and is 19-19 (.500) with a Sun Bowl win, and were 2 OT games shy of 2 postseason bids. While that's not stellar, it ain't as bad as you're trying to make it out to be. Yes, we asked to play big boy football, but moving up from "small ball" to "big boy" takes some acclimation. Not that you'd know, since you'd failed to do so yourselves, but trust us: it does. Or trust TCU, who themselves went 11-14 (.440) since moving on up to the Big 12. Both teams have owned you.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 31, 2014 2:05 p.m.

    UtahBruin:

    I'd heard that Ofahengaue's condition had improved, and that he's back on his feet, and out of the hospital. His prognosis is better than expected, but at present, he has not yet been cleared medically to return to the field. I believe reports are that he's expected to return by Fall camp though.

  • Me, Myself and I The Promised Land, UT
    March 31, 2014 11:24 a.m.

    People who are down on Travis Wilson need to be careful. Lets not forget at least 1/3 of his interceptions were on passes that hit his receivers in the hands and were picked off the tip. Football needs to change the way the assign interceptions and any catchable ball that is picked needs to be tacked on the receivers stats.

  • Silent Lurker Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 31, 2014 11:15 a.m.

    Yankees24
    I don't agree that playing a difficult schedule is the cause for the last two disappointing seasons,(5-7 & 5-7) The fact that PAC 12 is a stronger conference than the MWC and is acknowledged as one of the premier conferences in America is true. It is a factor, but more of a factor is the depth at the QB position. Really the coaches mishandling of the QB position and not having an adequate backup was much more of a reason for the record and disappointment felt by Ute fans.

  • murray19 Murray, UT
    March 31, 2014 10:59 a.m.

    Does anyone know if Logan Stott is at Utah?

  • Yankees24 SLC, UT
    March 31, 2014 10:09 a.m.

    I think it's about time we stop hearing the excuse of how hard the Pac 12 is. Yes, we all know how tough of a conference it is. But when you ask to be put in a big boy conference then it's time to start acting like a big boy and win some games. You asked for a hard conference and that is what you have. Stop making excuses for the teams poor play and stop bashing BYU to make yourselves feel better. With that said, I hope Utah does well and starts competing on a yearly basis. I have no problem with any of Utah's athletic teams. I have a problem with the fans using that excuse. Let's hope both schools do well this year.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    March 31, 2014 9:59 a.m.

    It will be interesting to see where Kendall Thompson fits in. If Kendal should win the starting spot, I would like to see Wilson redshirt this year. He would be awesome as a 5th year senior in 3 years, with Manning and Hansen in the wings.

    MurrayMike,
    Do you have a team?...Or are just hungry for attention, trying to see how many likes you can get from the Ute's detractors?

  • UtahBruin Saratoga Springs, UT
    March 31, 2014 9:57 a.m.

    I know this is a QB article. But does anybody know how Moana Ofahengaue is doing after his accident? I have never seen any updates as to his status.

    As for this article, it looks like the Utes have quite the QB battle going on, but clearly as Whit said, Wilson has got to be the favorite. The good news even if Wilson can't get cleared, which I hope he does. It looks like the Utes got quite a cast of proven and up and coming QB's coming into the mix.

    As a UCLA Bruin fan. Always great to see the conference getting stronger. Go BRUINS!!! Good luck to the Utes, Wilson and Ofa!

  • 2020 Herriman, UT
    March 31, 2014 9:42 a.m.

    If Utah goes 5 and 7 again, it will make it all the more disappointing that we didn't play BYU. That win has become almost automatic.

  • Big 12 Call Yet? Ogden, UT
    March 31, 2014 9:39 a.m.

    @MurrayMike,

    Ya its a big challenge playing the hardest schedule in the entire nation. Pretty different from what your team does. And don't forget that Utah doesn't even have a gimme game against byU this year.

  • MurrayMike Murray, UT
    March 31, 2014 9:06 a.m.

    Guess it's who can lead the Utes to another 5-7 season?

  • 2013 Ute Seniors SWEEP byU 4-0 Ogden, UT
    March 31, 2014 8:45 a.m.

    From what I've seen and people I talk to inside the program, the team seems to be coming together nicely. Whittingham mentioned from day 1 of joining the Pac 12 that depth was the key issue separating mwc quality programs from pac 12 quality programs. That lack of depth at several positions hurt us the past few years, with QB being the most obvious.

    We are much deeper across the board now than perhaps we've ever been with again QB being the most obvious. Should be a fun season and I think we will surprise some people.

    Go UTES
    Onward and upward to pac 12 glory

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 31, 2014 8:05 a.m.

    It looks like the previsous point comment was removed. Nicely done DN.

    When it comes to QB, the more the merrier. The QB position has killed Utah the last few years. I'm not sold on Wilson either. I hope a more consistent QB emerges from the group.