Interesting comment.My experience is that WalMart has many of the
same products as both local "Mom and Pop" stores as well as other big
chains. So the idea of cheap labor to make the products being a WalMart issue
is incorrect.Does WalMart sell generic food products? Yes, but so
does Safeway and other supermarket chains. So that argument is moot.One MAJOR reason that WalMart is able to sell products cheaper (thus putting
local shops out of business) is that buy buying in great volume, they pay less,
therefore they can sell for less.Nevertheless, if you want to pay
more for things and ensure that you paycheck doesn't go as far, enjoy.
No question that Walmart has issues. Last Thanksgiving, it had a "food
drive" for its employees, which symbolized its low wage business model. Walmart has, however, been doing some social good. One, it
is forcing its cosmetic suppliers to end the use of toxic chemicals in various
make-ups and beauty products, which benefits women's health. Two, it has
implemented programs to ensure better clothing factory worker rights/safety in
developing countries after the Bangladesh fire disaster. No other retailer has
power and might in the supply chain to force such change.Three, it
has revolutionized retail building energy and environmental impacts with the
increasing use of renewable energy (e.g., wind and rooftop solar) and savvy
building construction (e.g., hand driers over paper towels; natural light) to
drastically cut its carbon footprint. It's also implemented fuel
efficiency measure for its trucks and safe climate-safe refrigerants in its
retail outlets.Some may scoff as such things, but given
Walmart's size and clout in the marketplace, it offers opportunities to
enact global good where others have to follow suit. I personally support these
I agree with this letter. Abby's critique of Walmart is accurate and
astute. I have shopped at Walmart a few times in the past decade simply because
I needed items not available at local stores, but I avoid Walmart as much as
possible. The large Walmart that is near a town where I used to shop extensively
has caused more local businesses to quit than I can name. I would not consider
buying an appliance there, or anything of significance. The way Walmart treats
employees is deplorable, as stated in the article. Let's quit entering
Walmart doors entirely!
Abby should get a refund on her college tuition because she didn't learn
much. Walmart provides less affluent members of our society access to goods they
otherwise may not be able to afford. There is a reason very few poor people shop
at Nordstrom's stores but they do shop at Walmart. To demand people not
shop at Walmart is to deny poor people access to goods only the rich can afford!
Fortunately Abby. Walmart is not like Obamacare. We are not forced to shop
And this is what a college education gives us?
Stores are in business to make a profit, including Wal-Mart. The reason that I
don't shop at Wal-Mart is that I want profits to remain in Utah. If I shop
at Peterson's in Riverton, a family owned grocery store, the profits made
by that store help the community. If I buy at Wal-Mart, the profits leave Utah,
sucking dollars out of our local economy.
I appreciate the idealism, and I hope she can hold on to it. I hate Wal-Mart,
but it's my only alternative. If I have only $60 to replace a microwave, I
have to buy the cheap one at Wal-Mart. My noble intentions can't go any
further than what's in my bank account, because I shouldn't be using
that credit card.I've done extensive market research for my
family and have priced shopping at Wal-Mart vs. shopping elsewhere. Right now I
do 1/3 at a local grocery story, 2/3 at Wal-Mart because I save $150 each month
buying detergent, toothpaste, TP and cereal at Wal-Mart. Now, $150
may not sound like much to the letter writer, but for a family my size it's
the difference between paying the car insurance and not. We never eat out, we
can't afford movies outside of Netflix, and we live bare-bones, but we
live. Regrettably, we have to do that living through buying at Wal-Mart. If mom-and-pops can help me, great. But so far they simply can't.
A recent survey of national grocery chains found Wallmart came in 55th - out of
55 in terms of customer satisfaction. And yet, Wallmart flushes. What that
points to is that many either have to, or are willing to sacrifice quality in
exchange for cheap prices. I choose not to shop at Walmart. I
don't think of it as an evil company - I actually sit on an energy
advisory board on renewables with a member of the Walmart executive staff.
Walmart is extremely dedicated to renewable energy and is aggressively working
to make their stores as carbon neutral as possible. The family has also done
much for the arts and education in their home state. But
"cheap" comes at a cost. It comes at a cost in quality. It comes at a
cost of service. It comes at a cost of US jobs and local businesses. It is
each individuals rights and responsibility to weigh those cost in their own
mind. To me personally, that cost is too high.
Walmart is Communist China's greatest creation! Through Walmart Communist
China is able to finance weapons of mass destruction, armies, and navies. So
naturally, the right wing posters, like Thid/MM would adore and worship it.Isn't it about time we treat Walmart as the enemy of the state that
it truly is? I say all companies that have operations in China be hit with a
major tax increase. Hopefully we can force them to move operations back here (or
at least out of a communist regime) or force them into bankruptcy. Wouldn't
that be grand? I'd love to see Walmart gone!
Wow!Mark today on the calendar.I agree with both Real
Maverick AND Mike Richards!Mike is Correct in buying local to keep
the profits local.andMavis right in that WalMart [and other
businesses] are fueling and funding COMMUNISTS in China!I am sick
and tired of hearing the bemoaning of "Socialism" from posters who are
in fact Fund and Growing COMMUMISM.
Mike Richards, so do you shop at Lowes, Home Depot, JC Penney's,
Macy's, Smith's, Ace Hardware, Shopko, Nordstrom's,
MacDonald's, Dillard's, Target, or many other stores that don't
keep their "profits in Utah"? Walmart has prices that most of need to
survive. Walmart has the exact same products as any other store. It just seems
to be OK to target Walmart. The new store on Parleys has provided many needed
jobs and has cleaned up a building that was deteriorating into disrepair. They
have been admirable neighbors. If I spend $100 at the local store then go to
Walmart it costs me $79.00 for the exact same items. The money I save allows me
to shop neighborhood stores and put more of my hard earned money back into the
economy. I think Walmart shoppers provide a better return to our economy than
Peeps at local Walmart $1.08Same Peeps at Fresh Market today
$1.99So are the peeps at Walmart communist? And the other Peeps are
I seldom shop at Wal-Mart, but I also don't support those who seem to hate
them.Remember back when we had small towns (and small mom and pop
stores)all around the country?The "malls" showed up and
basically eliminated most of the older downtown stores.I don't
remember much "outrage" from the masses then.Now, here comes
Walmart with an even cheaper (from consumer point of view)model and people seem
It seems our country has made a pact with the devil, we get low cost consumer
goods, but the middle class, and manufacturing have been out sourced over seas!
Walmart is convenient, in my area it's clean, and the prices are low. Those
shopping in Walmart run the spectrum from wealthy locals to not-so-wealthy
immigrants. We all want to make our dollar go further and judging us is
sanctimonious. I often buy from local mom-and-pops in order to help them, but
that won't change the reality. Retail patterns change and book stores, DVD
rentals, milk man delivery, doctor home visits, typewriters, film cameras,
blacksmiths, etc go out of business if they do not adapt. The good old days
won't return, so think of a better alternative to Walmart.
I don't shop at Walmart, but this anti-Walmart rant used the worst logic
I've ever heard. And there are so many REAL reasons to frequent local
family stores.===Unless the product is home-made,
mom-and-pop stores sell the same products as Walmart or any other retailer.
And I've never heard of a home-make microwave. The guy selling them
isn't out making microwaves in his garage... all microwaves are made in
Mexico and China (whether you purchase it from Walmart or Joe's microwave
store).===Walmart doesn't employ the people who
make microwaves. GE, Westinghouse, Frigidaire, etc, employ the workers (so if
there's child labor involved... Walmart didn't force GE to hire
children to make the microwave). In reality... there's more
chance of children (family) working at a family operated store than there is at
Walmart. I know, my family ran a business and I started working there very
young (for almost nothing).But there are GOOD reasons for skipping
Walmart and going to a local family store...If we like having that
store around... you have to shop there once in a while or it will be gone.
@Thid Barker"Walmart provides less affluent members of our society
access to goods they otherwise may not be able to afford."But
it's the same cheap goods that keep workers wages low thus increasing the
number of people who can't afford much than there would be if everyone in
that sector was paying employees like Costco. So there's not a very simple
to LDS LiberalPracticing for this coming Tuesday are you?I have my own reasons for not shopping at Walmart. Without divulging details,
one is substandard service which caused a major inconvenience and some financial
trauma then shafting me when I complained. Two, There hijinx in getting new
stores. Why build one at 93rd & 9th when there is more than ample space on
94th & 7th? Not to mention, there is already one on 75th & 13th.
I've almost never shopped at Walmart.In many cases, the vaunted savings
aren't as great as claimed, and, yes, often you can buy the same product
for the same price, or less, w'o going to Walmart.I still
recall my wife buying a cell phone at a Walmart store assuming it was usable in
Utah. It wasn't! and they didn't want to give a refund. On close
examination it stated on the packaging the phone could only be used in certain
states. Why did Walmart sell it in Utah then? Why did they fight my wife over
the return? Fortunately she is a fighter when it comes to getting her rights,
and they begrudgingly gave her money back.I recall that K Mart used
to sell goods made in Taiwan and other alternatives to Communist China and that
Walmart deliberately places itself near to existing chain stores to do them out
of business.The problem is that most people would rather save a buck
than almost anything else so W'Mart thrives. OTOH domestic industry
might sometimes try harder. Can't someone manufacture American shoes at
less than $160 a pair? I'd pay eighty - but $160?!
re: UtahBlueDevil"The family has also done much for the arts and
education in their home state."What would that be? Providing
free transportation from Bentonville to Branson?
People who use their brains for its intended purpose buy products according to
the best fit for that individual. People who buy products according to the
words of the seller are often fooled by false values. The owners of
the "Mom and Pop" stores, being experienced, educated and intelligent
consumers themselves, probably buy things for themselves that best fit the need
at the lowest cost. Of the money you earn to support your family
only a tiny part stays in Utah. Most of the products come from out of state, no
matter who sells them, and those products are bought by the seller according to
size of the purchase. The owners of Utah businesses do not have the size and
power to purchase as cheaply as the big boys and cannot match the competition.
Yes-Real Maverick-let's force Walmart into bankruptcy and put 1.4 million
workers out of a job.
I rarely shop at Walmart because, while their prices are often good the stores
are often crowded, understaffed, and poorly organized. My husband is a value
hunter, and much of our stuff is bought on the internet, often through Amazon,
where we have a good choice and can find excellent prices. For items
we can't buy on-line for whatever reason we often do use locally owned
@Thid BarkerVery Well Said.
I don't go to Walmart. I don't support the company, but that's
only half of it.The website 'people of walmart' exists for
a reason... People weren't surprised by the site's creation... for a
I love Walmart! Are all of your lives that good that this is what you've
found to complain about? Really? My sister worked at Walmart for years. It
wasn't glamorous, but it was a job, and it helped her get through school.
Is there some dictator that is forcing these low paid workers to work at
Walmart? What do you think the mom and paps pay their employees? Do you really
think its THAT MUCH better? So instead of nine bucks an hour they get ten? Is it
enough to feed a family on? NO! Its not. Then again, what does the guy in the
ditch with a shovel make? Why isn't there outrage about that? Because you
want to live in your nice house?? Also because it doesn't take much skill.
It takes hard work. But it doesn't take much skill, and neither does
working at walmart as a checker. Jobs pay what they are worth. If they
don't, people won't do them. I love Walmart. I will continue to shop
there. Go find something else to focus your hatred on.
Abby is right on. I'm the third generation in a "mom and pop grocery
store" group which was forced out of business by the "big boys"
coming to town. This article hits close to home. Ours were the stores which
built our town, gave food away to the poor, supported many community causes,
provided jobs and gave us the opportunity to work with our parents, etc. We
delivered groceries, opened the stores late if someone in town desperately
needed something and closed on Sundays so our employees could enjoy a day off
(us, too!). Running your own, small grocery store is very hard
work, long hours and usually not enough profit margin to hire a manager.It's hard to stomach the damage done by these large corporations.
It's ugly to watch. Please support your local businesses
whenever possible. Once they are all gone, the big boxes will run everything.
I just call it China Mart, to remind me that money I spend should stay in
America. I find other stores in Idaho sell more local products, and keep the
money at home. Not all is cheaper at wall mart,
@Mike RichardsSouth Jordan, UtahThe reason that I don't
shop at Wal-Mart is that I want profits to remain in Utah. If I shop at
Peterson's in Riverton, a family owned grocery store, the profits made by
that store help the community. If I buy at Wal-Mart, the profits leave Utah,
sucking dollars out of our local economy.8:24 a.m. March 29, 2014========== You realize that exact same logic applies to buying
American - vs. Communist China.If you buy Communist China, the profits
leave America, sucking dollars out of our economy.
Half the fun of going to Walmart is to see the "people of Walmart"
actually there. There is a Bingo game where you go to Walmart and find the
various things that have been posted on that funny Walmart website. It's
so fun and then to get low prices too! Gets boring watching the same
stereotyped people at the other stores. So take a chill pill
people.! Walmart is really fun for many reasons. I love it and will always shop
there. I have met many of their employees. They are fine people doing the best
they can. Many have quite a sense of humor and are very nice and helpful.
I find it interesting that so many Americans have decided to undermine free
enterprise. I'm shocked that Mike Richards, the usual defender of our
Constitution would take a stand against free enterprise and the free market.
Shame on you.
I have said it many times and I will say it again. Economic illiteracy is an
enormous problem in this country and this letter is exhibit one of just how
serious it is.
I don't shop "local" or "Ma and Pa" stores to
"support" THEM. I shop at stores that provide the products I need at
prices I can afford. As a professional, I assure you that my clients don't
visit me because they feel sorry for me, or to "support" me, or to keep
profits in the USA. They come to obtain the services they need -- at a fee
they're willing to pay. If I can't offer quality services to enough
clients for an acceptable fee, I'll be looking for a new job, soon! The reason so many people have "voted" with their dollars to
keep Walmart in business is because it offers products at prices people are
willing to pay and of sufficient quality to meet their needs. If smaller, local
stores can't compete, they should adapt by offering products or services
Walmar doesn't provide or close down.
I love Wal-Mart. They are the ones who promote the Buy American campaign. They
can't help that US trade laws allow cheap imports from China. They
can't help that a majority of American companies have their products
manufactured in China. It's a global economy. China is where
innovators and entrepreneurs go to circumvent US patent laws, and take advantage
of a willing workforce, unlike some of the workers at WalMart that mumble and
grumble, and don't work hard. Their is no guaranteed living wage in the
retail industry. We ought to be thankful for an immigrant workforce that will
come here and pick our tomatoes and onions, but that's another issue with
US immigration laws.WalMart is a result of global capitalism at its
best. You can't have your isolationism without protectionism. US
sovereignty was dissolved a long time ago, along with your Ozzie and Harriett
Sounds like someone is too good for Walmart.
I love their french bread but that is it. no more buying bikes and electronics.
most of the time they don't refund anything for defects.
Have any of you shopped at the Layton Wal Mart? What a zoo. All of those
horrible drivers at the intersection of Hillfield Rd. and Main St. transition to
Wally World where their horrible driving skills are transfered to shopping carts
and you need insurance coverage just to enter the store, let alone walk up and
down an aisle. I am being somewhat facetious, but I am also somewhat serious in
my little tangent. I avoid Wal Mart (I live close to the Layton store) because I
cannot stand just how inconsiderate the majority of the shoppers are. That place
will drive a person crazy. I would rather drive the extra distance to
Smith's or to Clearfield to Kent's Market than Shop at Wal Mart.
The main reason products at Wal-Mart are less expensive than at other stores is
because the have the largest, most cost-efficient distribution system for food
and misc goods in the world. They have wrung inefficiencies out of the
traditional "mom and pop" and even large supermarket supply chain,
including inefficiencies at their suppliers.Wal-Mart is a huge
success and benefit to almost everyone (even the hold-outs who hold their noses
up at shopping there - because even they pay lower prices at Target, the local
gas station, etc. because of competition from Wal-Mart!)The real
benefit, however, is freeing up thousands and even millions of people from
mundane jobs at mom and pop stores (clerks, stockers, delivery folks,
accountants, etc) who can now go do something much more productive. The key is
to get training in an area where you can add more value. The college decision
used to be 1) pick a major 2) graduate and take a job. Today you need to be
much more thoughtful. If you are, you can have the American Dream times 100.
Wal-Mart has simply made distribution of everyday goods like food and toiletries
very low-cost and efficient. They have freed Americans up to do more valuable
things like be creative and innovative. Thank heaven for Wal-Mart! If you want
to get an extra benefit beyond their low prices, buy the stock! It will help
not only your current budget, but your retirement!Keep it up
Wal-Mart employees. Don't let the naysayers keep you from building upon
the most efficient distribution system in the world!
We owe China $1.3 trillion, and Walmart is stock full of goods from China.
United states businesses & consumers are relying more & more on goods
from China. Its scary the position this is putting us in. Imagine what could
happen if relations with China became strained. We could threaten to not pay
back that $1.3 trillion - but China could retaliate by not sending us its goods.
Walmart shelves would be empty.I'm not sure of the solution as
I'm like "Mom of 8" - I have to make the best immediate financial
decisions for my family. A lot of times that means cost over durability.
I just laugh at the posters that say the same products bought at Walmart can be
bought elsewhere. Really? Corporate pounds suppliers into the ground to lower
prices, change packaging etc; which has put suppliers out of business.Yeah
they sell groceries, but the supposed produce department is just lipstick for
the majority of processed foods they sell at gut bottom prices. They specialize
in making people addicted by sucking them in with low prices coated with
additives.I buy local/regional and like to know where my food comes
from. Might pay more for some things but worth it.
You can't complain about the poor sucking up our economy then support the
Walmarts of the world. By their own admission they rely on employees taking
government assistance to pad their profits. In fairness, many even locals buy
from overseas but that is more a product of inane trade policy from the past 40
Prior to the fire that took 112 lives in a Bangladesh garment factory,
"Walmart and Gap said they would not pay higher prices to make
upgrades." (Huff Post)A later article sated that Walmart bowed
to pressure and agreed to upgrade fire safety, after the fire and a great public
These four paragraphs from a recent college graduate. Absolutely no facts or
basis. This letter was written from an emotional standpoint spliced with some
pop opinion from certain media. Next time if you are going to slander, at least
do so with substance.
NightOwlAmericaSALEM, ORI just laugh at the posters that say
the same products bought at Walmart can be bought elsewhere. Really?Yes - really. Products I see at the Walmart in my town, I see at other
stores. Obviously, there are some that are only at Walmart, but the same can be
said for any national store.
The idea of "Buying American" is the biggest myth in American economics.
We left England because we wanted to trade and buy with whoever we wanted.
Some of our founding fathers like John Hancock were smugglers bringing in
products from all over Europe to the colonists. The American tradition is to
buy the best product available at the lowest possible price. It has and never
has been to "Buy American." If it is from Japan, Germany etc. we'll
buy that product. I see a lot of Japanese and German cars on our streets.
Americans have always wanted their own consumer choice. That is the true
American spirit.I suggest to many in Utah to stop listening to the
xenophobes of say Fox News and actual study history.
Curmudgeon:You left out the rest of my comment. Yes you can find the same
brand at other stores. But several suppliers have paid a price to deal with
Walmart. Look what happened to Rubbermaid as an example.Howard
Beal:I see a lot of Japanese and German cars on our streets as well.
Honda, Toyota, VW and others have factories in the United States with cars build
by U.S. workers. Depending on the vehicle, parts are imported to assemble the
cars, but they are built here. I drive a Honda that was built in Ohio.
This article is warped liberal or union logic. Walmart is a great place to
shop. Once hired, a very high percentage of employees stay at Walmart a long
time. After reading this article, I am going to go to Walmart tomorrow. I
think every time I go through that door I am taking a small step to face up to
unions and Democrats. The Democrats are doing everything they can to drive
costs up and disposable income down...at least for the middle class. I'm
thankful that Walmart is around to bring some cost down or to at least stabilize
them. If the person writing this article does not want to shop at Walmart, he
can certainly pay more and shop elsewhere. Oh, my Walmart is very clean.
Since the writer does not shop in Walmart, he probably does not know what he is
I can't decide if I am more shocked by this college grad's poor
research or that the Deseret News published such uninformed opinion. Truth seekers could learn a lot about Walmart's Great Value brand, their
oversea factory standards that are changing labor and safety for entire
countries, the commitment to getting struggling people the things they need at
affordable prices, bringing manufacturing back to the US, bringing transparency
to the market in pricing, and the 1 million people workforce that are grateful
for work and benefits. People say such unintelligent things. Do
your homework, lady, before you pipe up on subjects that you know nothing about.
And yes, I live in Bentonville, Arkansas where we know Walmart and
it's conscience and heart and soul.
Walmart = Evil Empire.Can't stand the place. I avoid it at all
Um... I like Walmart... Great American Success story.
Beside the low quality name brand trash you purchase at Walmart, yes all kinds
of stuff is manufactured especially for Walmart in China and looks just like the
stuff you buy anywhere else. It is low quality and sometimes lasts about as
long as it takes to get it home.My favorite conspiracy theory is,
all of the plants in China that manufacture the trash for Walmart are owned by
the Chinese Military. Why do you think that China is getting snotty on the
world stage. It is largely due to two things. Stealing technology, and #2 is
all the money, hundreds of billions, that unwitting U.S. consumers spend at
Walmart. It all goes to the Chinese Military machine. I for one won't
shop at Walmart for any reason. I always look at where stiff is manufactured.
I only buy Chinese in rare circumstances.
re: Wayne Rout"Since the writer does not shop in Walmart, he
probably does not know what he is missing."No, as someone else
pointed out, there is a website called people of walmart which is pretty much
spot on. Isn't interesting how there isn't a website
called people of Target?
And "K Dave" you are not forced to shop at "Obamacare", but just
like Walmart, if you need insurance it's there for you. It has helped six
million people so far. If you have good insurance that's great for you!
I don't see why the Walmart issue is painted as a Right VS Left thing.
It's not politics.===Why does the Left hate
Walmart??Who shops at Walmart (mostly poor people). And the Left
likes poor people and wants them to be able to afford food for their kids... so
why are they so against Walmart selling inexpensive food (the same food, in the
same cans, you would buy at ANY store)??I don't get it... and
why it's become so politicized...===Are they so
detached and snobbish that they think the poor should be forced to buy their
food from a suave food emporium like they do??What's wrong with
cheep food (if it's the same food you would get anywhere)?Why
is the Left against it?I see why the Right is for it.... they are
for free market economy and free market principles, where if you can provide a
product cheaper you should be rewarded with more business.But I
really don't see why the Left hates Walmart... Can someone explain it?===IMO there's room for Walmart AND smaller boutique
stores. They cater to a different clientele.
I have bought many things from wal mart and when there are options (different
brands) I always look to see where it is made and I will buy the made in USA
first even if it is more money. I have noticed that just because an
item is made in the USA doesn't mean it will be more money. I have learned
this through looking at all the various brands and where they are made. Many of
the Wal mart brand items are made in USA and are much lower prices than the name
brand items which almost always are made in china.People have a
tendency to repeat whatever they hear from a family, friend, talk radio,
internet.... as truth, but most don’t really look into it with an open
mind and learn the facts before saying what have heard. It is a bad habit of
many people that causes a lot of arguments that otherwise could be avoided. If
people have the facts it is easy to debate whichever side you are on in a civil
manner instead of arguing, which tends to lead to people not learning and being
I hate to break it to everybody, but outside of Gasoline, seasonal produce, and
a few other industries the profits eventually go outside of Utah. Yes
Joe's Supermarket is owned by your neighbor, but the items that he sells on
his shelf were purchased form Del Monte and packaged in Mississippi, and the
corporate profits were sent to their headquarters in New York. The interesting
thing is that sometimes the chain store benefits the local economy more because
they can afford to pay their store manager's more than the locally owned
store. All while hiring the same number of people.As for Walmart
being the cheapest, that is a lie too. If you compare prices between Walmart,
Target, Smith's, and other grocery stores, you can often find that Walmart
is not the cheapest.What this letter shows is that our kids are not
being taught how to show, or even how to look through advertising and see the
truth. It is a sad day when people take advertisements to be be 100% truthful.
2 bitsCottonwood Heights, UTI don't see why the Walmart issue
is painted as a Right VS Left thing. It's not politics.===Why does the Left hate Walmart??Who shops at Walmart (mostly
poor people). And the Left likes poor people and wants them to be able to afford
food for their kids... so why are they so against Walmart selling inexpensive
food (the same food, in the same cans, you would buy at ANY store)??I don't get it... and why it's become so politicized...=========== Because -- The poor get Food Stamps from
the Government [taxes].Which in turn means WalMart is getting rich from
other peoples taxes.BTW -- This applies to all the workers, working
AT WalMart.THAT'S why.
per Red Shirt earlier today...Completely agreed. I've noticed
some items are cheaper at Smiths than Reams. While other items are a better deal
at Harmons than Target, and so on.
To "airnaut" you know that the government could stop Walmart from making
so much money off of them. The government could also save money by eliminating
all grocery stores from the SNAP program. If the government just set up a
wearhouse and gave the needy a box of food rather than giving them checks and
EBT cards, they could eliminate the middleman.
Local run stores are not all they are cracked up to be. Go to any third world
country, and this is how people shop. Prices are high, quality is often low and
inconsistent, and selection is poor. Keep hoping for mom and pop stores. And
move America back 150 years...
RedShirtUSS Enterprise, UTTo "airnaut" you know that the
government could stop Walmart from making so much money off of them. The
government could also save money by eliminating all grocery stores from the SNAP
program. If the government just set up a wearhouse and gave the needy a box of
food rather than giving them checks and EBT cards, they could eliminate the
middleman.4:32 p.m. March 31, 2014========== But Red, That is diametrically opposed to everying you advocate daily --
1. That would mean yet ANOTHER Government system.the
Warehouse, the Workers, the transportaion etc., etc.And 2. You
keep saying businesses can do everything faster, better, and cheaper than any
Government.Which is it?
To "airnaut" that would not result in "ANOTHER Government
system". It would be a replacement of a government system.Yes,
businesses can do things faster, better, and cheaper than the government.My suggestion was just an idea for cutting waste in the welfare program
without killing the program, something I thought that you would like.The question is why do you want to pay all of that overhead for social
workers, and buildings for them to work in. Don't you know that wearhouse
workers and delivery people are cheaper than most office personnel?My preference would be to make government welfare such a pain to receive and
to stay on that people would rather pick produce than go on welfare.
re: RedShirt"Yes, businesses can do things faster, better, and
cheaper than the government."I don't know. USPS > UPS.
To "Pendergast" you mean USPS that was in the red by $5 Billion the
same year that UPS has $3.8 billion in profits? If the USPS was a private
company, it would be liquidated by now.I would think that if UPS was
given a $5 billion subsidy by taxpayers that they would cost about the same as
I wonder if people realize that by paying their employees so little, and
encouraging them to get government assistance, the taxpayer is subsidizing
Walmart's labor costs.
@hank...Sorry, your ignorance is showing.... For example"In 2011, the Crystal Bridges Museum of American Art opened in
Bentonville, Arkansas. The Museum was largely funded by the Walton Family
Foundation, which donated more than $1.4 billion."Does Utah have
a museum valued at more than 1.4 billion?Last year Walmart gave more
than 1 billion to charities. That is even more than some major religions.
Lets not cast dispersions just because we aren't aware. I don't like
Walmart as a store to shop at... but I will not deny recognition of those good
things they do.
@redshirt - evidently you are unaware of how the US postal service and how they
are funded. The USPS gets no tax money... not a cent. They are not subsidized,
just regulated, and operate under a charter from the government... and
don't get to pick their own business practices.Think about
it... hand delivery of a letter door to door, across the country, for under 50
cents. Does UPS do that? I worked for UPS during college.... I don't
recall us doing that. I have the highest respect for the UPS - for many
reasons. But lets be a little fare here. Just because they are government,
doesn't mean they are poorly run. And no, the USPS is not
subsidized by tax payers. It lost money because of Postal Accountability and
Enhancement Act, which mandates $5.5 billion per year to be paid into an account
to pre-fund retiree health-care, 75 years into the future. Look it up. If UPS
had the same requirement, seeing how their net revenue was 4.7b, they too would
have posted at a loss.
This has got to be the dumbset article I have ever read in the DNews. Yes
let's shut down Wallmart and then watch your weekly grocery bill double.
That's just the ticket isn't it. Walmart is one of THE main reasons so
many middle class Americans are able to barely get by today. Walmart's food
and produce is good - not great but still very good. The prices are untouchable
by Macey's or Smith's or any other major Utah grocery chain and
I'm sure that holds nationally as well. Clothing and tools and ...you name
it...it is lower priced at Walmart. I don't see the thousands of Utah
citizens complaining about having their Walmart jobs either. It is articles like
this that make me wonder if we ought to really think about rasing the voting age
to say...25... when common sense starts to relace immaturity.
For some reason, a lot of the people that knock on Walmart tend to be socially
liberal (nevermind Walmart employees had better healthcare than obamacare offers
at the same price now)If the concern were more neutral, for instance
"large mass retailers"-K-Mart and Target are no better than Walmart in
terms of quality or price-this would seem more reasonable.If
anything, I'll be shopping at Walmart more frequently if the stuff they say
about increasing American-made products and workers pans out.
To "UtahBlueDevil" if a large corporation ran losses in the Billions of
dollars for multiple years, how long would it take before it would be
liquidated?If the USPS isn't getting any government assistance,
then explain how they can keep paying their employees?You say that
the USPS doesn't get funding from tax money, yet ABC News and many others
have reported over the past 4 years about various bills that have gone through
congress to bail out the Post Office.Either way, you only confirm
that the USPS is not as well run as UPS.
Redshirt... USPS is self funding. If you can find a line item in
the federal budget funding the USPS, let us all know.... because for the last
200 plus years no none knew about it. It will surely be news worthy information.
To "UtahBlueDevil" yes, and they are just getting deeper and deeper in
debt. How about UPS, they apparently know how to make money on shipping and get
their packages to their destinations quickly.