to: iron&clayBecause all Christians are still living the law of
Moses, right?If God has conduits to deliver spiritual messages then
would it not stand to reason he has those who handle the secular announcements;
Newton, Einstein, Galileo, etc... as well?
Science tells us how, Religion tells us why.Science explains
facts about creation and destruction, beginnings and endings, Religion
gives us hope for Salvation, and explains our endless-ness.Those who
reject Science due to Religion, are just as damned as those who reject
Religion due to Science.Either way -- A man can not be saved
in ignorance.The Glory of God is Intelligence.I welcome and
accept truth, Mormonism is the Gospel of Truth -- go from wherever it may.
There doesn't have to be any conflict between science and religion so long
as religion is willing to change when the facts demonstrate it's teachings
were inaccurate.For example, the fields of genetics, archeology, and
linguistics have revealed that many religious teachings about ancient America
were false. If the church modifies the teachings to be in accord with the
discovered facts, then the conflict with science disappears.
To PaddycakesAlbert Einstein will be creating worlds long before
you. And so will Tyson.
@Ralph...My thoughts exactly sir! Fantastic comment. Is it not so tiresome and
ridiculous? You would believe one might actually use their brain at some point
as our mutual friend's handle name clearly states.
Science is simply trendy, transitory theories that will soon change.Revelation* from God such as knowledge about the planets and stars received by
Moses, Abraham and Joseph Smith has been dispensed to the general public since
the 1830s.Go to the "Pearl of Great Price", to learn about
scripture power found in the triple combination of the Book of Mormon, Doctrine
and covenants and the Pearl of Great Price.* We believe all that God
has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet
reveal many great and important things....Aricle of FAith #9
Apocalypse please,First, I am fully aware that science and religion
assert themselves differently. As to folks saying they know stuff when they
don't - hardly limited to the religious world and not unknown in the
science world. Simply a human thing.Second, I subscribe to most but
not all of the "conflicts" you list. Of those I do subscribe to, I
simply don't think all are conflicts. Where there are, I am willing to
wait and see.When I was young I recall very strident statements that
the historical Christ did not likely exist. I also recall when claims such as
writing on metal plates were virtually unknown.Perhaps some think
that what we know today is all we will ever know about these issues. I
don't. And I am willing to see how things play out.There have
been many prominent scientists among the various world religions who have been
able to find a peaceable blend between science and religion. I think I can do
@ Twin LightsExcept of course when there is a conflict between
science and religion eg young earth creationism, a global flood, Adam and Eve,
Native American DNA, BOM anachronisms, Book of Abraham etc.The way
science and religion gain and assert truth are fundamentally different. To
paraphrase Neil deGrasse Tyson it's ok to say that we don't know
certain things (abiogenesis), but it's not ok to say you know something
when you don't.
Frankly, on this issue I'm on the side of B H Roberts, James E Talmadge,
John A Widtsoe, and David O McKay. Not so much Bruce McConkie and Joseph
One can accept science without accepting a particular scientist's religious
(or lack thereof) views. It is frustrating when people try to tie the two
Yes, we know, A Guy With a "Brain"...It's Obama's
fault. We get it. Whatever Muslims did 900 years ago is
Obama's fault.And what they're doing today? it's
Obama's fault.Earthquakes, disease, terrorism, Russian
aggression, etc.... Obama's fault.
if you watch the show you would no he never denies god or believers and even
tells stories about christian thinkers. great stories like the one about the
monk thet if you belive in god then the universe must go on forever. the
chatholic church burned him.
A Guy With A BrainEnid, OKBetter not tell this to Pres. Obama.
He claims that Muslims have made "significant" contributions to every
advancement America and the world as a whole have made.========= Obama was right-- The Muslims gave the Europeans:Mathmatics, Chemistry, Physics, Medicine, and Philosophy during the "Dark
Ages", and enlighted them -- usruring in the Middle Ages.We have
the Muslims to thank for everything we know from the Greeks, Romans, and Ottoman
Empires. Obama was addressing the Muslims 1,200 years ago, eGrasse was addressing the Muslims of today.Sort of like most
Mormons were Progessive 150 years ago, and many are Oppressive today.
What should be remembered that Rock-stary Neil deGrasse is not in direct
conflict with Christian dogma and denies Creation for the benefit of Humanist
science why denies and rejects the foundation of Christian principles that it
was God who created the universe and, you and me. Albeit deGrasse is
entertaining, he is a denier of the Christian faith and the existence of God
Almighty and creationism. Albeit entertaining on it's face, his world life
view/philosophy is antithetical to Christian dogma and creationism. Embracing
Tyson is rejecting your Christian roots for the sake of 'acceptance'
by the scientific community, and many cannot reject that acceptance for the
furtherance of their career in the scientific community, for which, if they
embraced publicly their Christian heritage and believes, they would be
ostracized from their peers. The thrush is that Tyson embraces pagan doctrine
which soundly rejected by Christian thought the world. It is tripe and insult
Christians and a slap in the face of our core believes that God creating the
universe and you and me. Like all pagans, he shall give an account one day, for
which he denies.
Article quote: "Tyson talked about how al-Ghazali’s writings
influenced those who read them to believe that anything that happened was
something divinely caused, instead of being the product of some external force.
“The God-willing part substitutes for curiosity, and so the natural world
became the will of God instead of something you don’t understand and you
want to go figure out,” he said. The lack of Islamic reliance on science
“affects the world to this day,” he said."Better not
tell this to Pres. Obama. He claims that Muslims have made
"significant" contributions to every advancement America and the world
as a whole have made.And, to the poster above who said that there
should be no contention/war whatsoever between science and religion, I
whole-heartedly agree. James E. Faust: "A miracle is simply a triumph of a
higher physical law over a lesser physical law."Science is cool!
The "war" between religion and science is pure foolishness.Some great scientists were/are religious. Some great scientists were/are
not.In the LDS faith, we have had many examples of men of science
who have become apostles or have nurtured sons who became apostles. Other
religions also have had great scientific thinkers.Really, the idea
that there must be conflict is nonsense.
I thought that the DesNews censors wouldn't allow posting of advertising
and off topic items in the comments. See bgrnathanI was encouraged
by the fact that so many people wanted to see him that the U phone system and
ticket site went down with the volume of requests for tickets. Those of us that
are enthusiastic about science need to communicate that love with the rest of
the world. Then maybe we can develop that culture of hope and excitement for
the future that Dr. Tyson spoke of in his lecture.
As Neil deGrasse Tyson says, even if you don't believe science, it's
still true. This applies to bgrnathan.
“Who’s old enough to remember when we used to dream about
tomorrow?” I am. And I posit that the current conservative movement has
taken that away from us.
It was fantastic to see and hear him. I love that he kicked off his shoes and
ran back and forth on the stage in his socks. His enthusiasm for science and
sharing it was everything I'd hoped it would be,educational, funny and
fabulous all in one.Thanks for coming Dr. Tyson!
My family loves Cosmos. It makes a great addition to our sabbath. Church in
the morning; science at night. Last week my children and I had a wonderful talk
about how our family tree includes not only grandparents, but squid.