Published: Tuesday, March 25 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT
David believes that corporations are people.Does hobby lobby also
have the right to bear arms?
Which religion should government promote?
It seems the author of this letter, David Wood, has forgotten the meaning of
"religious freedom" of the Constitution; Marriage, David, is not only
something YOUR religion gets to practice, but the FREEDOM to marry LGBT couples
is ALSO a "religious freedom" and there are MANY religions that believe
it is perfectly okay. Imposing your religious beliefs on others who believe
differently, certainly qualifies as a violation of the religious beliefs of
others.Additionally corporations are NOT PEOPLE and have absolutely
NO BELIEFS religious or otherwise. The owners of businesses do not get to
determine the actions of their employees, which would constitute a violation of
the religious freedom of the employees.
Hobby Lobby is not an individual. It does not have personal rights.
Oh, where to start, where to start…Is the Ghestapo showing up
at Sacrament Meeting?Can Missionaries Proselyte?Can we build and
attend Church and Temples?This hyperbole from the Chicken
Little's on the Right astound me.For crying out loud -- Hobby
Lobby is a BUSINESS – Not a Religion!And what if a certain
religion you may not agree with FAVORS Same Sex Marriage?, – Do you still
support THEIR Constitutional rights to perform SSM?The truth is that
those who complain about secularism ARE often the narrow-minded and are
discriminating.We are living in a day that individual rights,
religious rights are not tolerated by those who claim to be the most religious.
I also hope that the nation can be united under the Constitution and
that all of us can live without fear for what we believe in.I also
look forward to having this letter writer’s 110% support of an Islamic
Cultural Center in New York City, and a 7’ statue of Bophamet at the
Oklahoma State Capitol.BTW -- When the semi-annual LDS General
Conference can no longer be broadcast, streamed, or printed -- call me.
"Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood have to go to court to defend their
religious right to avoid dispensing particular kinds of contraceptives."And isn't it wonderful that differences of opinion can be settled
in court rather than on the battle field. That is the blessing of the
Constitution."Federal judges have overturned states’
rights in deciding what marriage is." Federal judges also
overturned states rights in choosing who can attend certain schools depending on
the color of their skin. Was that a bad thing?"If religion and
those that support religion do not comply with secularism they are labeled as
narrow minded, bigots, and discriminators." They are only
labeled that way by other narrow minded bigots. My experience is that when I
stand up for what I believe in most people applaud my convictions rather than
call me names. Regardless of what others say, stand firm in what you believe and
never believe that might is greater than right. As long as people of faith live
by the precepts of their religion without joining in with name calling and
accusations, our religious freedom will not be lost. Courage in your
convictions will always be the right choice.
People own businesses and therefore the people who own business have the rights,
Hobby Lobby is NOT being required to "dispense" birth control or
anything else that violates the leadership's religious beliefs. They are
being required to provide health insurance that meets a minimum, national
standard for everyone that includes birth control coverage. To take
it to the other extreme, should I as an employer be able to demand that my
employees ONLY get coverage for birth control and refuse to pay for insurance
that covers pregnancy and child birth? Conservatives love to scream
about not putting government in between you and your doctor or government making
personal decisions for you, but then love to shove their religion or their
corporation in your personal decisions.
The author acknowledges that the government is forbidden from favoring one
religion over another and then complains that it is secular in nature. What is
government supposed to be if it is to remain religiously neutral? I
maintain that what some believers are decrying is really loss of privilege, not
loss of freedom. Religion, particularly of the Christian persuasion, has long
enjoyed privileges of status and influence in this country that were always in
violation of our Constitution. They just never got challenged...until knowledge
and information began making significant inroads on religions' truth
claims. More and more now, it is not enough to say that one's belief is
religious. A demonstration of the validity of the belief is now being required
as well. When this cannot be demonstrated, the privilege is lost. As it should
Liberals demand that we keep religion out of their government but love to put
their government in other people's religion and that is what this issue is
all about; forcing government into other people's religious beliefs.
Ever hear the expression, 'The devil made me do it?' In the upside
down logic of this letter titled, "Religious Intolerance," it's not
the devil, it's 'God made me do.' I will agree to your version of
'religious freedom' the same day that you agree that I can deny you
employment because of your religion - and healthcare. Sound like a deal?
Why do people that don't think God exists or don't think he cares one
way or the other get to enforce there morals on people but religious people
can't? Double standard there.
higvDietrich, IDWhy do people that don't think God exists or
don't think he cares one way or the other get to enforce there morals on
people but religious people can't? Double standard there.7:45
a.m. March 25, 2014=========== My God told me his plan
would be to allow Free Agency.There would be good things, and bad things
-- but we would be free to choose for ourselves.Another stood
up and said his plan was better than God's.He said there would be no
Choice by the indiviual, that everyone would do what he told them, and that he would only choose good things for them.My God said
NO.I say Freedom to Choose.and keep businesses out of
peoples's lives, and Don't allow Businesses to hide and coward
behind Religious Freedom.Hobby Lobby is a Business - not a
religion.Contraception aside -- This will could set a very
nasty precidence if Hobby Lobby wins.There will be no telling what
other "rights" Businesses will have over real people, ironically
-- using their new found "Constitutional Rights" as
"people" and Religion as their new weapon of choice.
fas·cism [ fá shìzzəm ]"1.dictatorial movement:
any movement, ideology, or attitude that favors dictatorial government,
centralized control of private enterprise, repression of all opposition, and
extreme nationalism."Sounds like the left to me of which their war on
religion is a part.
So, how can one say Hobby Lobby should be given license to practice their
religion, and in the same breath decry Sharia Law?
When the government violates the Constitution by requiring us to buy insurance,
why wouldn't it violate the Constitution by establishing a State religion?
The government believes in abortion, why wouldn't it have as doctrine of
that "religion" to prohibit birth or to destroy life before the baby is
born?Once, we held higher beliefs. Once, we, as a nation, believed
in God. Once, we knew how sacred life was. Once, we knew that government was
instituted to protect all life: "We hold these truths to be
self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their
Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and
the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are
instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the
governed,"Now, the government tells us to pay to stop new life;
that they will fine us if we don't pay for contraceptives; that they will
fine us if we don't accept their religion of abortion on demand.The 1st Commandment clearly states: "Thou shalt have no other gods before
me." The government believes differently.
Thid Barker 8:13 a.m.:A lot of religious conservatives want to
rewrite the law to force others to live by their beliefs (i.e. the demand for a
constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.) Show me an example
of how people are forced to use birth control against their will...
@ Thid Barker, some would say your definition of fascism could apply to
organized religions.... It is certainly NOT what our government is pursuing,
despite the rhetoric of the right wing.
@ Darrel. You have it backwards. The constitution gives Hobby Lobby owners the
right to practice THEIR religion, without being forced to practice your
religion."Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". These two clauses make up what
are called the "Religion Clauses" of the First Amendment.
Very eloquently put Karen and also correct.Religious intolerance, is
taught by religion.The opposite of intolerance is understanding, not just
tolerating another group.Mountanman said: "People own businesses
and therefore the people who own business have the rights, duh!"While the idea that "the people who own business have the rights"
should be the republican motto... No. They have the privilege to operate a
business, under specific conditions, for which they petition the local or
national government for permit or license to do so, and agree to certain rules
of safety or conduct.Religion is a belief, and your personal right,
that is all.It does not grant you special rights over others who
don't share your "beliefs"
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