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Published: Monday, March 24 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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LOU Montana
Pueblo, CO

Patrick, I have found you letter to be very upsetting considering I have had cancer and never once received any assistance what so ever. In that same year I had my knee replaced and my gallbladder removed and returned to work in under 90 days. I had to sell my retirement property, cashed in my 401k and worked my butt off for the last two years paying for all my treatment. Every last cent of all the medical costs were paid in full with NO ASSISTANCE from anyone. There was no ACA to protect me, there was no government aid or VA assistance. It was all paid for by me. I worked overtime and away from home to do this.

I pay for that federal cash assistance that you enjoy and I pay for your Medicaid and I pay for your section 8 housing.

I find it very upsetting to read about your horrible plight when I am unemployed and making a carrier change, paying for retraining from on my own savings because my body cannot handle hard physical work and still I am paying my own bills.

My heart goes out to you. Gee how do you do it?

Salt Lake City, UT

Sadly that is how Utah treats its citizens. It is more important to stand up to the Obama administration than it is to care for our citizens. Write Becky Lockhart and Governor Herbert and tell them. However, your story will fall on deaf ears. Becky would rather put I-Pads in schools than help poor citizens like yourself.

It is a sad reality of the Utah mentality.

Now if they had just called it Romney Care it would have been perfect.

Sandy, UT

This guy is just asking for it . I can't wait to hear the responses.

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

I read your story, I feel for you. My dad had diabetes all my life. He was 6'2" and 180lb worked hard all his life, Every morning he gave himself a shot. I never heard of the word "malingerer" till I was in the military. People made them self sick to get out of working. Diabetes is in my family tree so I learned I have to stay fit to avoid getting sick.

Dietrich, ID

Where is the dignity in other people paying your bills. Isn't the honorable thing to do is to make arrangements to pay your own bills even if it takes time to pay them?

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

There is unspoken State Motto in Utah:
"If you don't like it, leave."

Conservatives don't like change,
so they use it all the time.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Seriously ----

Scrooge: I have been forced to support through taxation and God knows they cost more than they're worth.

2nd Portly Gentleman: Many would rather die.

Scrooge: If they'd rather die, then they had better do it and decrease the surplus population. Good night, gentlemen.



Utah can hardly be called -- Zion.

LOU Montana
Pueblo, CO

I am not a radical conservative and I do believe in a system that help it's people. What I do not believe in is creating a society of takers. A class of people that do nothing but feed off the hard work of others. LDS LIBERAL said it is a saying in Utah and it is a saying on every job and every place I have worked. "If you don't like it, LEAVE!" Please leave but I doubt Idaho want you back. You have learned to work the system well in Idaho and you was comfortable. I can only imagine that you hide yourself well with in the hardcore rightwing society and rant about how you hate the leaches of society and did not vote for OBAMA. I voted for Obama and lean more towards the Democrat thinking but I don't like people who complain when they get FREE STUFF.

Still want to know how you do it?

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

For one... I don't think this guy is for real. He's just pushing ALL the Conservative's buttons, trying to get a response. This story just touches on too many of the hot button political topics to be for real.

I hope people won't respond the way he wants them too. This is obviously just an attempt to get them going.


This story line (that expanding medicare in Utah is life or death thing) is just not true. We just have a different solution here.

We don't want the Federal government holding our lives in their hands. What happens when they withdraw the matching funds? You die?


My wife has diabetes (since childhood), and we don't see expanding medicare as a life or death. I thought that's what Obama Care was all about! You can get insurance now! That's what the State Exchanges are for... you don't have to grovel at the feet of government for your life anymore... you can get insurance! The government will even pay for it IF you can't afford it.

But don't expect us to pay for it if you can afford it.

Salt Lake City, UT

"(that expanding medicare in Utah is life or death thing)"

Medicaid, not Medicare. Medicaid is a program for health insurance for the poor, and since medical bills are the number one cause of bankruptcy in this nation (and practically non-existant in other first world nations)... it kinda can be.

Hey It's Me
Salt Lake City, UT

If this is true, then all is well. I can't work because of medical problems. However, I have not applied for disability because I just don't think I should. My husband works a blue collar job and we struggle to make ends meet. When I have my surgeries, we put the co-pay on credit cards and pay them off at a premium very slowly. We don't ask for handouts. What kind of job did he supposedly come here for . . . with no health benefits? He should have thought about that before he made his career choice. So he has a job here so he says, use your pay to buy OBAMACARE. It is set up for people like you.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

So you do not get as much free stuff here as in Idaho. I’m sorry you have diabetes. I’m even sorrier you think someone else should be responsible for your meds. I’m sorry you have become a victim of the evils of the dole that LDS leaders have warned against since the 1930s, if not earlier.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Funny --

I haven't seen a single commetor here bashing Government healthcare via ACA,
Step up and pay for it, or help.

They SAY Charitable organizations do it better,
but in the end, nothing.

I guess God said it best about those who claim to follow him --

They draw near to me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Hey It's Me,
All is not well. Nobody's saying that. But it's also not life...or Death.

It's not one extreme or the other. It's not all or nothing. It's not "expand or die".


Whether we expand or not... all is not well. All is difficult. The sooner we get used to that idea the better. Just expanding medicaid (sorry for the terminology misuse before) doesn't fix everything.

Whether we expand or not... it's going to be difficult for people with diabetes and no job. We need to come to grips with that.

But expanding Medicaid is not the only solution. And it's for sure not life-or-death.

That you have been successful in convincing so many people that it's their life-or-death... is alarming. How can we ever cut back on government entitlement when we have so many people believing their government entitlement (insurance or whatever) means their life-or-death...?

With that level of Government dependency (your life)... how do we convince people to strive more for self-sufficiency (when that's painted as death)??

We have other solutions. All other solutions are not "death"...

Sandy, UT

Comparing others to your situation is a bit disingenuous isn't it, especially when your circumstances are different in sooo many ways. Besides the fact you've been trolled.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT


tell me, how does it feel being the final arbiter of what qualifies as christian behavior? Must be a heavy weight you have taken on to yourself, and of course NO ONE who disagrees with you can be christian! I sure feel sorry for you for the great weight you have assumed.


While I don't believe this letter is real, the process for applying to Medicaid in Utah is horrendous. My mother, who had Alzheimer's, lived in an assisted living center in another state. Once we sold her house, she was taken off Medicaid until all her money was gone. When we reapplied, we were told the facility had no Medicaid beds available. We moved her to Utah to be closer to family as it was no more traumatic than moving her across the street would have been.

The documentation that the Utah Medicaid worker asked for was mind-boggling. Not only would she not even look at the file of stuff we had put together for Arizona, she wanted things going back 10 years. We finally complained to her supervisor and she was dismissed - not just from our case but from the Agency. Made a traumatic experience for all of us even worse.


Is this letter for real?
More details are needed

For example,
"federal cash assistance"

Single people without dependents living with them generally can't qualify for federal cash (TANF) assistance. My question is how many are in your household, adults(?), kids(?).

Idaho's website says in order to qualify for Medicaid you must:
Be a child under the age of 19. OR
Be pregnant OR
Have children living with you under the age of 19 OR
Be age 65 or old OR
Be blind or disabled
And not exceed certain income limits.

Aside from missing info,
Employees should treat those they serve with respect.

provo, Utah

This is how Christ would run Utah right? Did Christ say. " You sick people need to get two jobs!"

The only Biblical reason to be wealthy is so you can help the sick and needy. You can have your riches now or later. Not so much both according to the Bible.

Dietrich, ID

@freedomingod Christ did not force the rich young ruler to sell his goods gave him the opportunity too. He does tell us to be self reliant. Sweat of your brow shall you eat your bread. Tells us to be charitable willingly. Government charity is force.

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