Yeah, but that's your view. And your expiry date came and went a long time
But the fact is, there are many outstanding health care systems which we could
copy, from Canada to Europe. Senator Hatch's party could have proposed any
of them but will have none of them. Why? Answer: to protect the medical
In the nineties, the Heritage Foundation designed a national healthcare plan as
an alternative to the Clinton plan. The Heritage proposal was the model for both
Obamacare and Romenycare. Orrin Hatch was one of many Republicans who endorsed
it. Other notable supporters included Newt Gingrich, Bob Dole and Dick Lugar.
The ACA allows my son to have potentially life-saving surgery without
bankrupting his young family. His wife has health insurance for the first time
in her life. Both shed tears of joy. All due respect to William and Debbie, for
every story like theirs there are stories with the opposite outcome. Another son and his wife fall into Utah's doughnut hole and are now an
emergency away from bankruptcy. Give us workable solutions Senator Hatch. Your
latest proposal doesn't cut it.
I have said it a million times. How do you drive down the PRICE of medical
procedures without some kind of competition or price regulation. Since the
government can't regulate the price of a service outside of taxing it, how
is it possible that anyone thought the ACA was going to solve a problem? Forcing
people on to expensive insurance plans doesn't force medical service
providers to lower costs. Forcing service providers and insurance providers to
provide for children until their 26 drives up costs. Canceling insurance plans
and forcing people on to plans is increasing the cost. Forcing businesses to
provide health care increases costs. I don't understand how any of this is
going to fix the fundamental problem. Service providers don't control their
own costs, exist in a largely non-competitive environment. When a family
receives a bills for $10's of thousands of dollars for a couple nights stay
at the hospital, you know SOMETHING is wrong. Hospitals are NOT controlling
costs, because they don't have to. They raise prices, pass it on to the
insurance. Insurance isn't vetting the care that was received or disputing
the excessive costs.
Wow. Amazing.Mr Hatch blasts the ACA throughout this whole piece,
talks about repealing and replacing, but does not mention even one time the
proposed legislation that he co-sponsored.Patient Choice,
Affordability, Responsibility and Empowerment Act, or CARE. - written by Coburn,
Hatch and BurrWhy would you not mention that Mr Hatch? Could it be
because it was BLASTED by many conservatives?Mr Hatch proved first
hand that it is easier and safer to complain, than to propose actual solutions.
"We need real change"And... nothing. No proposals or ideas
presented. Has the Republican party always been the party of opposing ideas in
place of creating their own, or just these past 6 years? All that is heard from
conservatives lately is blame and whining about Democrats without any emphasis
on their plan if they were to win the Senate and White House. Being completely
neutral and nonpartisan, please someone explain this phenomenon. I was very
willing to vote for Mitt Romney during the last election, but he never presented
an alternative to Obamacare. This is beneath the dignity of those striving for
public service. Even a bad idea is still an idea that can be debated and
criticized, but the absence of ideas is truly worrisome, especially when so many
DN readers seem to be cheerleaders for those same non-ideas. Let's repeal
Obamacare, great. Then what?
On the other hand, there's my friend Todd who has a congenital heart defect
who for the first time in his life has been able to have health insurance. ACA
has warts and beauty marks. Ultimately, the public must decide what it wants to
do with our health system and health insurance. To talk about ACA as if there
is nothing good about it is patently dishonest.
The real problem with health care is that it is too expensive! It doesn't
matter if the insurance pays for it, you pay for it, or your grandma pays the
bill for you. Healthcare just costs too much money.
"But unfortunately there’s an attitude of denial by President Obama
and many of his friends in Washington, who continue to claim that Obamacare is
actually working."----------------------I think I'll
send this to Ellen. Hopefully the stories of suffering will prompt her to
reevaluate Obamacare and tell him how it **really** is the next time he comes on
I guess it is easy for Hatch and the GOP to criticize when they did not seem to
have a a concern for the uninsured prior to ACA. I did egg to keep my
same doctors and my same plan.
A few anecdotal cases, even if true, are not sufficient to convince that the
whole of ACA is "disastrous". The whole matter is much more complex and
the cases of succesful application are numerous for people who for the first
time in their life now have affordable health care and will not go bankrupt. A better assessment is to compare with countries that have the best
universal health care in the world, like France, Belgium, the Netherlands,
Scandinavian countries, and others. ACA may not yet be perfect for all, but give
it some time and support to become perfect, rather than try to destroy it with
Hey Orrin! How about spending as much time telling us just what your
"patient-based health care reforms — such as the Patient CARE Act
proposal" will offer as you do bad mouthing the ACA. I have been receiving
your "Hatch Dispatch" online for months and have yet to see you tell us
what you plan will do, but have volumes of what is wrong with ACA. If it is so
great, give it some press, your present agenda makes me think you are more
interested in foiling the POTUS than you are of implementing yours or any other
health care program! How about putting your money errr proposal where your
When you write an op-ed like this you open yourself up to the attacks of those
with a political agenda counter to the author. But the fact remains that ACA
was not ready to be implemented, the taxes that are included were backloaded to
try and gain support early, the deductibles will have to skyrocket and now it
appears that the insurance companies will have to be bailed out. Nothing is free in this world and ACA just tried to shift the costs from one
group to another. Those that benefitted from this transfer will applaud the law
and those that get stuck with a higher premium and a higher tax bill will
complain. Anytime you pass any piece of major legislation on a strictly
partisan manner, no matter which party, it is bad legislation. As Hatch has
indicated, there are some good things in ACA but it needs to be either repealed
or majorly reformed and done in a manner that gains votes from both sides of the
aisle. But the Democrats in Congress are afraid to open the bill up for
amending because they will not like the result.
It is interesting that some posers still promote single payer - when it
obviously does not work in Canada, England, etc.
My view of William's family of St George; first it was not Obama who
canceled his employer's insurance plan. It was the greed of the employer
who cut his insurance and his daughter lost her doctor. The William Family
should have found insurance that the doctor would have accepted. Second, his
daughter's condition degraded because they did not properly exchange
information between the two doctors, as simple as having the two doctors call
each other. Third; Who typically gets all the cost that the William family could
not afford? YOU and I that is who. We get the cost passed onto us because the
William family does not have enough money and insurance to pay. We bare the
burden of the bulk of his daughter's treatment. Under ACA the insurance
company has to pay.William family needs to be grateful that they
will not lose their home, will not go bankrupt and cannot be denied coverage.
Who is going to pay for all the insurance subsidies? YOU WILL, if you pay taxes
or already have healthcare insurance! Why else do you think insurance premiums,
co-pays and deductibles are exploding for millions of other Americans? All
Obamacare has done is increase healthcare cost while lowering the quality,
"My view: ACA disastrous — We need real change"Well
you're half right. We need real change. It would be nice if
"Conservatives" underwent a paradigm shift and focused on what is best
for the nation for a change, instead of blindly embracing the hate rhetoric of
FOX "NEWS" and Rush Limbaugh.But what's the chance of
"Conservatives" becoming real Conservatives? . . . probably not great.
They are too used to being "Conservatives."Face it folks.
The ACA is a wonderful boon for this nation. The good Ol' USA has finally
begun to crawl out from the hole dug for us by plutocrat-controlled regressive,
reactionary Conservatism.For years now, we have had the highest
health care costs with only middling results. Something had to be done, and Lord
knows the Republicans were not inclined to do anything to improve the health
care situation in this nation.Thankfully, President Obama and the
Democrats took charge and got something done. And that is a true blessing for
this nation and its people.Thank you President Obama, and thank you
wise Democrats in Congress for sacrificing political capital to benefit nation.
Contrary to what FOX "NEWS" would say, these are truly Great Americans.
"All Obamacare has done is increase healthcare cost while lowering the
quality, period!"Thid, lets have a general discussion on
healthcare. Lets pretend that Obamacare never existed.And lets leave
partisanship out of it and just focus on the facts and see what conclusions can
be reached. Fair enough?I consider these as facts. Do you
disagree? If so, explain.Baby boomers are retiring and the number of
people on Medicare is increasing and will continue increasing.People are
living longerThe cost of healthcare has been steadily increasing for many
years now.So, these are my basis for discussion.Given
these, and looking at the projections of the cost of Medicare alone, any
analysis would have to conclude that it is unsustainable.So, I see
three options.Decrease Medicare services (higher age, less coverage)Increase tax to pay for itreduce the overall costsWhat other
options are there?Since costs seem to be escalating, isnt that the
most logical piece to focus on?We need a plan to address the cost of
healthcare. If we can agree on that, then we have a starting point
@JoeBlowFar East USA, SCWow. Amazing.Mr Hatch
blasts the ACA throughout this whole piece, talks about repealing and replacing,
but does not mention even one time the proposed legislation that he
co-sponsored.Patient Choice, Affordability, Responsibility and
Empowerment Act, or CARE. - written by Coburn, Hatch and Burr========== Because, That would be precisely as him saying --
"If you like your Obamacare, you can keep you Obamacare",
To Counter Intelligence: "It is interesting that some posers still promote
single payer - when it obviously does not work in Canada, England, etc."Both of those countries spend half as much on healthcare as we do, yet
they have healthier populations as a result. Your definition of "does not
work" is obviously not reality based.
"Utah's Time to Lead" Orrin's slogan was funny,
and inaccurate. This is my opinion. I agree Orrin, We Need real change.Utah's delegation in Washington act like a bunch of pandering
monkeywrenchers trying to invalidate the will of the American People (in my
opinion). Enjoy Our next President, Orrin! I know I will!
How can it be a disaster when the CBO has projected a reduction in unemployment
and reduction in health care costs, including insurance premiums, due to the
ACA. To me a disaster is when Bob Bennett lost his job in congress and Orrin
Hatch kept his job in congress.
Bad government policies, corporate greed, "non-profit" hospitals that in
reality make millions, frivolous lawsuits and other ambulance chasing lawyers,
medical school that costs 1/2 million dollars. This is a small sampling of why
the healthcare costs too much.
"Sen. Orrin Hatch: Affordable Care Act disastrous — We need real
change"I agree Sen. Hatch! We do need real change. Let's
start with term limits for congress.
In other words -- Obamacare-light.Conservatives; Like driving down a
freeway using a rear view mirror.always looking 'backwards', in
a world that's always moving 'forward'.
Orrin Hatch was for Obamacare before he was against it.Back when
Obamacare was a republican idea, he loved it. But once a Democrat proposed it
since his single payer system wasn't going to pass, Orrin suddenly flip
flopped and began to hate it.Lastly, I love how a man who literally
has spent his entire career living off my hard work now has the nerve to attack
me for wanting just basic health care. While I've spent years working 24/7
365, hatch has spent a few weeks per year doing photo opts. He has nearly $8
million in his offshore bank and has the nicest health care plan for life. I'll never see $8 million, I have a high deductible, and my plan
goes away when I stop working. Maybe I would agree that the ACA I bad once Orrin
joins me in the private sector and actually produces something. Until then Orrin, enjoy your Cadillac health care plan. Most of us don't
have anything half as good as you do. I guess we are just the "entitled"
bunch while you're the real "producer."
The "at least the democrats and Obama did something" excuse is a bad
one. The fact it that insurance premiums are rising much quicker then they were
before. Maybe this is why the republicans didn't put this legislation up
before. They knew it would fail.For those few stories of recently
insured, congrats. But can you explain that to the over four million who lost
their insurance and even more who lost their doctors. Doesn't feel like a
fair sacrifice.If you know anything about the social medicine
systems of other countries then you surely know that most of those people also
pay for private insurance as well. A two tiered system. Even more, the haves
and the have nots. Aren't you libs trying to make everyone the same. It
is a "right" isn't it?Torte reform, making citizens
responsible for following and analyzing their bills and competition are just
some of the ways to make healthcare cheaper.
Never underestimate the desire of many Americans for "free stuff" or
their fantasy that someone else can and will pay for it.Hatchis
right, Obamacare needs to be repealed. Other than that, he has failed to stop
that wretched bill despite his self-proclaimed legislative power, and failed to
reveal any substitute plan. We could have elected a new Senator in 2012 and
gotten no worse results.
The British system is said to be in such trouble they are considering trying
private medicine again. Govt medicine by design will be corrupt and inadequate
and workers will not have much incentive to work. Another government boondoggle.
You don't like what we have now? Don't complain and blame Bush for
all your future troubles.
The ACA plan that my family has costs YOU not ME $875 dollars per month ($10,500
per year), has a $6,000 per person deductible per year ($12,000 per family) and
will only be a benefit if someone in my family has a catastrophic medical issue
that exceeds the deductible. Everything else is out of pocket until the annual
deductible is reached. So in essence, it's health insurance we can't
afford to use but cheaper than paying the government the $450 tax fine since $0
dollars is better than the $875 monthly premium. My son who is 23
found out that his ACA healthcare would cost him $927 a year ($81 per month) but
is also catastrophic. The fine would be $120, so guess what he is going to do.
As Kevin. Bacon said in a "Few Good Men" that "these are
the facts, and they are undisputed."
Republicans have been saying that we need change in the health care system for
decades, but they never seem to offer any ideas, and when they did in 1992, they
disowned it when Obama adopted many of their ideas such as the individual
mandate as proposed by Newt Gingrich and the American Heritage Foundation. What
we need is a political party that has real ideas and puts their money where
their mouths are.
Orin,You had a front row seat to this whole mess.I
didn't hear you standing up and stating that this whole plan was a disaster
and that we were being lied to.This is, thankfully, your last term.
What do you have to lose? It's time to take a stand or two for a few
things. call a spade a spade. Tell America the truth!You have a
real chance to be a credible voice, but so far you have walked a very soft
line.Do us all a favor and take a lesson or two from the other
leaders in Utah and make a difference.this is your last chance to
leave a legacy other than a few lyrics to songs.Thanks bro.
This is a Republican Senator being quoted by a Republican regional news
organization.I appreciate the DN letting DN readers know just what
Republicans are thinking/doing.
Capitalism is by far the fastest and most effective way to provide what people
want most. Limits to capitalism almost always result in reducing competition
which in turn allows providers to raise prices. Combine that with the fact that
we will pay almost anything to save a family member's life and health care
costs get out of control.Businesses protect profits by reducing
competition and trying to create legal monopolies, which is really all the
health care industry is trying to protect. They claim that socialization of
medicine will reduce options, increase costs, and diminish service. I believe
they are right. Instead, of giving government control, or protecting big
business, why not mandate openness.
Why not say that because health care is so critical to human dignity it should
be pushed to commodity status as quickly as possible? Why not make everyone in
the medical supply chain from care givers all the way back to the mine
processing ore show their costs? Instead of protecting them with legislation let
them be exposed to pure competition. I'm not saying we have to
do away with patents, but even patents expire eventually. Soon enough overpriced
equipment, medicines, and services would be very affordable.
It's so funny to see democrats defending the ACA by saying the Heritage
foundation proposed it first. I mean come on Dems is the ACA what you hoped
for? NO! and is it really what was proposed years ago? No! Whats sad
is the democrats could try this on a state level first and see if it works. Oh
wait they did and they had a republican sign it into law. Massachusetts was a
great example and the reality is it failed. Now onto the proposal
by Orrin. First of all it would remove the business tax credit that gives
corporate and union plans an advantage over small business owners and walmart
employees in purchasing insurance. It would encourage health savings which is
by far the best way to handle the issue of healthcare. Finally it would turn
tax dollars over to the states in block grants to fund medicaid for the poor,
disabled and elderly. Local control works better for helping each states unique
demographics. Come on Dems its time to admit the ACA failed and that Orrins
plan is better than any proposal yet!
I find it laughable that Hatch claims to want to do a thing about the ACA.
Where was he when Senator Ted Cruz was taking a stand against this monstrosity
and trying to get it delayed because it was not ready? Now that we have all been
damaged by this and chaos reigns in medicine he comes out with this. I wish the
people who keep pointing out that the Netherlands, Canada and the UK supposedly
have such awesome health care systems would educate themselves a bit. They have
been able to do these things because we have been willing to bear the military
expenses of the Western world. With Russia on the march over there and us
abandoning allies left and right, how long do you think they can continue? Ask
the Crimea how the whole "depend on the USA for your protection" thing
is going. Am I surprised that a bunch of people who could not pay their way are
happy that they are now having someone else pay for them? NO. Sadly, we have
way too many people in this country who are happy to have the government rob
their neighbors for their benefit.
Re:Dr.ThomYou are entiitled to at least one yearly preventive care
Dr. visit, not subject to any deductible.Why is your son shopping
for his own plan? Since he is not yet 26 yrs he could be covered on your plan.
@What in Tucket?Errrr you do know that Britain has a two tier
healthcare system right? The NHS and a private system? This has been in place
for several decades. Do you know anything about UK healthcare?Having lived
in the States and the UK I can tell you from personal experience that the US
healthcare system is a mind boggling disaster. I have private insurance with my
work but have never needed to use it. The NHS has been excellent for myself and
my family. The NHS is far from perfect and there is lots of room for improvement
but it covers every single person in the UK and is far more efficient than the
US system.Every first world country has some form of universal
healthcare apart from the US. Why is no one rushing to copy you?
Is there any way to fact check the stories of William ...........? And
Debbie's ...........? Story?Since the Deseret News published it
perhaps Senator Hatch could give a Deseret News Reporter their last name so an
independent source could verify their numbers they gave Senator Hatcg?
The most striking omission in the Senator's first example appears to me the
absence of communication between the physicians if the patient's medical
history is as complex as conveyed. I know with as many doctors as I've
gone through in moving from place to place, one of the first things requested by
the new practice is consent to release medical records. The fact that I've
had to switch practices a handful of times because (at least early on) my old
doctor was "out of network" when my EMPLOYER switched carriers.Yes, BHO over promised and under delivered on the "you can keep it"
promise. There are lame arguments from both the right and the left in the arena
Hatch is playing. I've referred to it as the "clown sideshow in ring
number 1" in the circus that is American politics.The right
continually chides the left about entitlements and the "nanny" state
when it comes to entitlements. Maybe the right should set an example by taking
personal responsibility for their own health care when it comes to provider
succession planning. That is a fact of life independent of what kind of system
we subject to
The health system prior to obama care was not perfect but it was very good. Who
decided that what we had needed to be changed by a whole new legislation? Not me
for sure. I'm uninsurable and self employed so my wife was the
provider of insurance for me through her work. I understand the risk of
bankruptcy due to medical problems but for the most part the system worked. This wholesale change is not even close to what we had before. It's
a disastrous mess and I'm not so sure it was not by design. What the
progressives always wanted was a single payer system and because we can't
go back and ACA is a bust the next thing is single payer. Bottom
line is, if the car needs some repair, just trade it in on wreck and then
you'll be clamoring for big brother to buy you a new car at the expense of
others, or even better yet, just ask the federal reserve to create money from
nothing and put it on the national credit card.
Senator Hatch - many of us tried to get real change when you last ran for
re-election, and we failed to get you out. You are not an instrument
of change. Your words are empty.
Screaming to Repealing Obamacare works here in Utah, on Faux News and right wing
radio but it won't work with mainstream America. It's more likely
Orrin Hatch will be gone from the political landscape long before the ACA is
Senator, you were asked to sit at the table, but you deliberately walked away.
You and your party decided to make the Dems do health care reform without your
participation (except to try to kill it). The arrogance is astounding. Here we
are nearly four years later and you and your party are still harping, but have
yet to put anything concrete on the table. In fact, the GOP can't even
agree amongst yourselves on a proposal can even be voted on. I am so tired of
the Republicans constantly complaining but doing nothing whatsoever except
saying no. I with the GOP would make an affirmative, positive contribution to
the country except line up for the money of deep pocket billionaires. You have
tossed aside the American people. Please, Orrin, just retire. It is really
starting to become unseemly.
Day-M8Its stories like yours that make other people in the rest of
the first world and shake their heads in disbelief. You happily accept you are
uninsurable and at a real risk of bankruptcy if you got a chronic disease or
were involved in an accident. Does this not seem like a completely broken system
to you? I have children with conditions that would mean they would never be
touched by an insurance company in the states, luckily they and I don't
have to worry about that anymore. I don't need to worry about paying
medical bills and worry about bankruptcy. I go to hospitals and doctors
surgeries, get the treatment I need and then walk out again. No hassle about
payment information just in and out.
Okay, Orrin, what do you propose instead?Nothing?I
thought so. . . .
UHPP is the first to admit the ACA isn't perfect. We sign up dozens of
Utahs on healthcare-dot-gov every day. We know the glitches, gaps, and problems
better than anyone else. And that many of the facts in Sen. Hatch's op-ed
(or his previous one) won't pass a 10-second fact-check.For instance,
why didn't William in St. George double-check to make sure that their
existing doctor was included in their new private insurance policy? Washington
County has 4 major insurers offering 61 plans on healthcare.gov. And
Debbie in Salt Lake. Hatch writes that her "plan costs" jumped
"almost 20 percent of their annual income." But what is a "plan
cost?" Does that total include the monthly premiums plus their deductible
and out-of-pocket max? If their family deductible was $12,700 a year (the
highest allowed under the ACA, many are lower), then their premiums were
$400/month (on the high side, but still possible), then their annual income is
around $87,500/year. That means they are paying 5.4% of their income for their
insurance premiums, less than the 20% she claimed. UHPP is helping Utahns
sign up for new insurance until March 31st.
I have seen other so called "first person stories" that did not stand up
to scrutiny.I would feel better and more accepting if someone could check
out their numbers.
"Americans deserve better.It’s my hope, and the hope of so many
Utahns I’ve heard from, that President Obama and his allies in Congress
will finally work with us to repeal Obamacare and reform our system in a way
that Utahns and Americans everywhere deserve."Senator Hatch and
fellow politicians:You had plenty of time and chances to reform our
health care system for many years. You simply refused to do so. If
"Obamacare" is a bad as you proclaim, please devise and introduce an
alternative. Thus far, you have proffered nothing, even less than nothing at
times. You are correct in one matter though, Americans everywhere deserve
better, especially better than what you and your compadres have accomplished and
@CapsaicinYour missing something with your logic, and it's the fact
that there are three different tiers of what you pay for the same procedure in
the medical system. Payments from Medicare/Medicaid are the lowest, the second
lowest is payments by private insurers. By far, the most expensive way to pay is
with cash out of your own pocket. While it's admittedly a round about way,
the more people covered on Medicare/Medicaid and private insurance, the less
medical services cost, as these companies will negotiate for better rates, as
they also don't want to pay more money per procedure.
Real change did come, Senator Orrin Hatch....it came slowly, but surely. And it
will continue. I am someone that didn't have insurance for seven years and
got it recently with the ACA. I know it's not perfect, but it's a work
in progress and it's certainly better than the rambling of the politicians
which would get nothing done for years to come. Thank goodness for the passing
of this bill. Millions of people now have access when they didn't before!
Four years later, and the Republicans still have offered nothing.
Iron RodSalt Lake City, UTIs there any way to fact check the stories
of William ...........? And Debbie's ...........? Story?Since the
Deseret News published it perhaps Senator Hatch could give a Deseret News
Reporter their last name so an independent source could verify their numbers
they gave Senator Hatcg?3:07 a.m. March 24, 2014=====
Agreed, Like keeping a Witch Doctor or Shaman as a Primary
Care Provider, etc.
For someone who was being considered as a potential Supreme Court Justice, this
is an embarrassing article for Sen. Hatch to have written. Convicting Obama for
having implemented a plan that was originally designed by the conservative
Heritage Foundation on the basis of isolated stories that obscure the relevant
facts is hardly persuasive and would be laughed out of court.
I lost my last insurance. Was told that I might qualify for medicaid. With the
ACA I found a plan with the bells and whistles that I need for a little less
than half of what I would have to pay for medicaid which I have to jump through
hoops in order to see specialists. With my new plan I can go see a specialist on
my own no prior authorization needed. anyone thinking that medicaid
covers everything guess what - it doesn't.
hey JoeBlow Medicare either year raises the price and eliminates what services
it is willing to cover. this is not right as a person who has worked all their
life has already paid into it which is FICA.
Sen. Hatch may have a duty to report "William" for child neglect, if not
abuse. If the new physician did not know the full diagnosis and
treatment protocols for the child it is because he did not have any medical
history from the parents. They should have signed a medical release for full
transfer of information, as well as asked the old physician for a summary of
diagnosis, findings, and current care plan - "doctor, you're not on our
new insurance. Can you write a letter to the new doctor so he knows what to do
for our precious and fragile daughter?" Sorry, Senator, this is
an indictment of the parents not the ACA. They could have just as easily lost
access to that provider by the employer switching plans. Furthermore, you give no indication of the child's diagnosis. If the care
was extensive and expensive then the premiums on the small business-owner
employer may have gone up due in part to this child's care, forcing the
employer to drop the plan for all employes.
Meanwhile, Senator Hatch, you have a cadillac of a health care plan, so to heck
with the rest of the nation; if they get sick, let them die?
Orin is right! We do need change and we need it now. Let's start by getting
rid of grumpy old Republicans and replace them with progressive thinking people
that want to pass job bills, work to make Affordable Health Care work and kick
all the illegal aliens out of the country. You're not a grumpy
old republican are you Orin?
Ranch"if they get sick, let them die?"Let them eat
Hatch's two examples don't stand up. I have a family friend in
Phoenix that worked as a high paid Pharmaceutical Sales rep for a very large
Drug Company. He was there 18 years. Recently Doug was laid of. This company
laid off 700 employees after a merger. Doug was a supporter of
getting rid of the ACA, mostly due to his own company's ideology. He
recently had to make a choice between Cobra and ACA. Cobra was almost $3000.00
per month. ACA was $400.00 per month for similar benefits. The ACA allows my
friend Doug and his family to take a well needed breather while he finds
employment again. Cobra could have bankrupted them if he remains unemployed.
Hatch's support of these drug companies is well known. Again
Senator hatch, what plan have you put forth? ACA is helping millions of people
even with it flaws.
Sen Hatch tells the stories of "William" and "Debbie" without
much heart or excitement. I gotta say, I miss Paul Dunn's stories.
ACA is a talking point the GOP Big Govt Majority who is on the take of the
Corporate Sponsors is defending profiteering on the American Consumers backs.The GOP have forgotten to governing by and for the people, rather than by and
through their corporate sponsors. Hence, Citizens United Unlimited Funding for
the Corporate Sponsors of the GOP Campaign.
My ACA plan will cost the government and tax payers $85 dollars per month ( not
me since I get a supplement that pays the monthly premium) and comes with a
$6,000 per-person deductible and a $12,000 per family deductible per annum.
everything else is out of pocket until the magic number of $6,000 or $12,000 is
reached This means that if my family uses $11,999.00 in a single year that
ends in December, then in January it starts over before any benefits kick in to
cover medical; expenses Which it is why it is called catastrophic insurance
which means you cant afford to use it