To many people who don't understand BYU's process for advancing and
keeping athletes, you will hear things like the punishment didn't fit the
act; and by fans who are so obsessed about voicing so-called "sports"
opinions about a person they know nothing about, I say to all of them read the
words of people who do understand. There's much more than what meets the
eye and it's been very, very difficult for these high profile boys to
suddenly be thrown in a media frenzy these days. Zac's come-back involved
more than any of you will ever know, so the support for him is not only needed,
but appreciated by him and his family as they try continuously to keep all the
negative hoopla at bay for him. Thank you Cougar Fans!
@outsideMakes a huge difference when police are involved. BTW way, I
think it is inaccurate to state Bronco likes fights in practice. My guess is
that if a scrap erupts the whistle sounds and the scrap is immediately broken
up. To blow this out of proportion seems to be the case here.
I didn't expect we'd see Zac again: I thought he'd bail.
I'm glad to be wrong. It appears he will be much better for the
experience. This kind of response from BYU athletics and students is what keeps
me a rabid BYU fan through thick and thin. Best to you, #10
Don't read too much into Coach Mendenhall liking fights in practice.
You're not there and sometimes a play on words is easy to do. Good luck
I think this is the first time I've liked Chris B's comment on a BYU
sports article (I usually like his comments on political articles-- keep it
going, Chris!).I am glad Zac got a chance to play with the team
again. I really like how players like Zac and KVN chose to stick with BYU
despite how difficult the situation was for them considering BYU's honor
code. How a person handles a situation like this says a lot about their
I dont know the full details of the legal aspect of this public fight. However,
it appears the primary mistake this guy made is that his fight was in public
rather than during football practise. As has been reported recently, Coach
Mendenhall likes to see fights break out among players during practise to show
how hard they are working. Can one type of fight really be that much different
than another? Is it really a matter of public perception?Anyway,
glad to see this player come back. Hopefully, he will remember that "time
and place" make all the difference at BYU.
Runnerguy"If it were not for the fact that this kid plays football he
would never be on campus again."Nonsense. If it weren't for
the fact he was a football player his disciplinary sentence probably would have
been significantly lighter.With regular Joe Student, nobody knows except
maybe HC office. With a high profile student athlete in the public eye,
everybody knows and thus more public pressure for stricter discipline.
For the first time on this comment board, I agree with Chris B. Please stick
with your reasoned and positive comments.
Glad for BYU football that Zack has returned. Glad for Zack that he is at BYU.
Not true runner guy. While the incident was egregious even though the players
were baited into a terrible situation they never should have been in, Zac
actually had as severe and probably even more severe punishment than a non-high
profile student/representative of the University would have had. I
wish everyone could know how LDS bishops and BYU Standards Committee work with
people separate from Team Rules. Individual redemption is always paramount.
Much like a Disciplinary Council, penalties imposed are intended to redeem
rather than to permanently reject, discard and forget.What we
don't know about is any Young Men who are still being spiritually
supported, and encouraged even after they have left and not returned due to
infractions happening near the end of their eligibility. The Coach, his staff
and or others at the University are concerned about the lost ones and their long
runnerguy50"Redemption is a wonderful thing"I have
personally had experience in the church education system and I've seen many
many students make positive changes in their lives and return to the university.
Not one of them was a football player or on one of the athletic teams. A foot
on campus is better than a foot in the mouth.
Not sure why, given the strength of the linebackers over the past years, but
I've overlooked Coach Tidwell. Good to hear this story about him as well as
@runnerguyJust a bit of forgiveness is all the Savior asks of us...all the
time. Put that in the bank a few time and you and I will get some back in
return. I really like how these coaches did not throw this young man under the
bus. Others like KVN, and Brandon Davies are young men who were supported
through their mistakes and have done very well. I have four adult age sons who
get support and strength from leaders, professors, Bishops etc. None are married
yet and we pray for them every day.
Runner guy, of course bringing him back has been in the works a long time.
That's what happens. He got kicked off the team over a year and a half ago.
This wasn't some wimpy 1 game suspension. He had to go through the legal
system and a long(it's been over a year) process to get good with byu and
honor code. That's what I like about how byu handles problems.
They don't use the cop out of "everyone deserves another chance" as
justification for a weak 1 game suspension. This was serious and making a kid
sit a year is more serious than just about any college would have handled it.
I like the part of the story that tells what year he is in school/how much
eligibility he has left and how that might play out with the other
@runnerguy 50He got in a fight, and the kid he fought with kind of
got the best of it. He's a college kid and he made a mistake. Nobody was
seriously injured, except maybe Zacs' pride and life goes on. Congrats to
Coach Tidwell for being there for the kid and showing support. It was the
lifeline that he needed at that moment and now hes got done what was required to
get back. Good luck Zac, stick to football. you don't have a career waiting
in cage fighting.
It is great to see these young men who have problems come back and realize there
is more to life than banging heads on the football field. Congratulations Zac.
Also a congratulation for the coaches who help these young men see their life
potential as much as football potential.
I haven't made it through a day yet when I haven't made a mistake, and
haven't met anyone else yet who has either. Glad to hear you're
turning a mistake into a positive. BYU is fortunate to have you back.
Another young man who seems to have found himself. This is the absolute best
thing about athletics. Changing the potential of mind and body into excellence
If he is healthy, Stout can be very, very good. He could fill in very nicely at
I'm not sure I agree with Bronco on this one. It sounds like bringing this
kid back was in the works the whole time if the asst coach kept in contact with
the player. That was an ugly incident and warranted being kicked out of the
school for good. If it were not for the fact that this kid plays football he
would never be on campus again.
This has the makings of a very excellent feel good story. Best of luck Zac.
Redemption is a wonderful thing.
I for one looked forward to Zack's career. I while appreciate more the
upward trend in his life... which after all is said and done is the whole
purpose of football, college, careers and living on earth. Welcome back Zac,
were all pulling for you.
I love these turn around stories... Sports and great coaches can make a major
impact in a young man's life that is far more important than winning
football or basketball games... I wish the best for you Mr. Stout and I will
look forward to following you as a fan.