Just to say I am a BYU fan and am happy to see them make the Dance. The fact
that they lost in the first round is disappointing but they did make it and
there are a bunch of great teams that didn't. Health and timing are so
important and we didn't get it this year. Good Work guys and better health
and timing next year. GO Cougs
For DHinChas, u can't win or lose NCAA tournament games if you don"t
play any. And bigirish, don't forget about making more freethrows.
32 teams were one and done, including Duke, Ohio State, Oklahoma State ... see,
CB, it is not the size of the gym or conference membership.LA Times
had an article on how little RPI means in the actual play. But since it is used
for selection, Rose's strategy of playing ranked team OOC is good. Now if
we could get some of them in Provo, better.As for next year,
Neilson, from my neck of the woods (I know his family), is very tall but lanky.
Not the body mass of Mika. He's been back for a while and has been working
out with the team. Maybe he'll be a help.My first goal would be
to win the WCC championship and tournament. Then let the NCAA take care of
13 Scholarship players is the limit. BYU has for next season: AytesFischerHawsCollinsworthWinderBartleyCarlinoAustinNeilsenAndrusWorthingtonSharpHalfordChatmanLooks to me like one of the above might not be back next
year: Worthington could decide for a mission. Halford might transfer. Sharp
could spend time in the weight room and get stronger. Austin could focus on
shooting open 10-foot shots and score some points. And maybe Coach Rose could
realize that a 1-3-1 Zone covers 3-pt shooters better than a 2-3. And just
maybe they come back next season a lot more disciplined in their offensive sets
and pass the ball to hit the open man....like Oregon did.
I agree with Francisco and Mizzoublue. The need for a tough, aggressive JC big
man is critical. His ability to rebound and defend is more important than
scoring. The post players haven't improved but have gotten worse over
time. Nate Austin is a prime example. A new coach that can teach defense and
hold the players accountable is mandatory. BYU's zone defense is the worst
that I have seen in any game this year. The scheme and the effort are both
pathetic. Sharp, Worthington and Austin are offensive negatives. Encourage
Worthington to go on a mission and let Sharp move on. Without an aggressive
inside presence and some defensive accountability, BYU will continue to struggle
to get to the next level.
Hello MUSSing...Hey, dude - my earlier post included the all-time
NCAA tourney records of four Utah schools. Why the focus on a comparison between
Utah and BYU? And why the focus on the Dave Rose era?BYUBlue-myopia
diminishes the equally significant eras of of Roger Reid, Frank Arnold, Stew
Morrill,Rick Majerus, and many others... The stats were all-time ones, and when
I looked for the stats I was interested in seeking how close Utah State, Weber
State, and BYU were in terms of the prowess in the Big Dance.I
figured Utah was far ahead over the years (54% all time), but the other three
aren't that far apart - BYU 33%, Weber State 27%, Utah State 21%.Though a diehard Weber State fan, its fun to watch the Blue-Red bickering and
given your desire to focus on Utah and BYU in the 'here and now' and
if people look at all the sports both schools play, dare I suggest you look at
the current Duel in the Desert score: Utah 41 BYU 6... Looking forward to next year's basketball season where I believe the
Cougars and Utes will make the tourney. Hopefully Weber will again too...Go
Sorry. Somehow I accidentally submitted my comments without finishing,
here's how I wanted to conclude:Yes. The "potential" is
there for us to be better next year. However, we'll need contributions from
all 5 players on the floor, not just three; much more commitment to defense;
& players to improve in areas where they are currently lacking. By so doing,
our potential is very high. Go Cougs!
Do you really think the potential is there for us to be better next season?
Perhaps. But if we continue to play the way we played this year we'll get
the same results. First, Nate Austin-is less effective on offense now than he
was two seasons ago. Plus, Luke Worthington is limited offensively. Net result:
like this year, teams concentrate on stopping three players because they
don't have to worry about our bigs. Second, we are not very good on
defense. Coaches should insist that if players want on the court they not only
need to be able to score, but must play solid defense as well. Third, player
improvement/development. It seems like too many players go through our program
without improving a lot for the next level or to even be more effective
currently. Nate Austin's offensive skills is a good example. Nate will be a
senior next year & in three years he appears less effective than he was as a
sophomore. Jimmer Fredette's poor defensive skills have really hurt him in
the NBA.Yes. The
So we have the same guys to look forward to next year, more or less. Can't
deny their effort, but why so streaky and inconsistent? I really hate to hear
Haws in an interview spouting the party line..."We're playing our best
basketball right now", after losing to Gonzaga and almost being beat by SF.
Sure didn't show against Oregon when we shot 33%. Every time we bow out in
the first game, same kinds of excuses. I think he actually got worse at the
end of the season, and that too many of his points comes from free throws and
not from consistent shooting. Carlino is so streaky too, still struggling with
decision making and charging inside, though he has some great nights. Other
guys show up and don't, but no consistent constant dependable pure
shooters, Haws the closest thing to it. And I know it's a big deal to get
into the NCAA at all. Just always think we'll do better...and sure hope
those seniors next year can win the games they're supposed to without silly
lapses and fouls, with better D and 3-pt shooting from someone.
As a Cougar fan, I am having a hard time getting excited about next year.
Granted, Haws and Collinsworth will be back but the Cougs will need much more
than that. Where is the big man who can score? I don't think it will be
Andrus and I know it will not be Worthington. Austin will hustle his guts out
but he won't score. Unless Rose can get a big J.C. transfer who can score,
nothing much is going to change next year. Realistically, I think BYU is about
3 years away from being a very good team.
Since NCAA only allows 13 scholarships on a team COUGFANINTX has a point. Six
seniors back, Bartley, collinswoth, worthington make nine and five new ones.
Must assume all the others on the bench are walk ons so someone else is not on
scholarship. Gonna be hard for anyone new to get playing time next year.
With five incoming freshman / transfers and only one outgoing player leaving for
a mission, something has to give. It will be interesting to see
which current players are impacted.It will also be interesting to
see if Collinsworth is ready to come back at the beginning of the season or if
he needs to RS. If Collinsworth is able to come back, I expect next years team
to be slightly better than this year, in spite of losing Mika.
DHinChasAll of which proves diddly since the Utes haven't won
an NCAA tournament game in almost a decade.Big Dance records during
the Dave Rose era:BYU 4-7Utah 0-1
Now that all the men’s Utah basketball teams are done for the season, from
ESPN.com and updated to include this years’ efforts…All-time Men’s NCAA Basketball Tournament Records:Southern
Utah University… 0 wins, 1 defeatWeber State University… 6
wins, 16 defeatsUtah State University… 6 wins, 22 defeatsBrigham Young University…15 wins, 31 defeatsUniversity of
Utah… 35 wins, 30 defeats
If the heading of this article were true, then we should have been using this
motivation to get better for 9 of the last 11 tourneys we've been ousted in
the first round. I hope things improve and I'll be there to cheer on my
Cougars when they do, but as a lifelong fan, this is getting a bit
frustrating.Stop building us for a season and go win a tournament.
When was the last time we won the Conference tournament at the end of the year?
When was the last time we stepped up like some of these other mid-major teams
and knocked off the big boys in the first round? I'll give us credit for
the year we had Jimmer and then Davies ruined our title hopes. I'm ready
to stop talking about "potential" as a Cougar and get some real results.
Lets get it done BYU!!!
Things are looking good by not losing a single starter to graduation next year.
In addition, BYU will be bringing in some talented transfers from Wake Forest
and UNLV, both great basketball programs.BYU definitely
would've done better in the tournament had they not lost Collinsworth, one
of their top starters, in the last game of the season.Like most
programs, BYU did suffer through a few inexplicable upsets. With around 35 games
played, there are bound to be a few off-nights. The Utah game hurt, but the Utes
proved to be very tough at home this season. However, their next game will be in
Provo, which should get the results back to the norm of this past decade.Gonzaga will be losing more players than BYU next season, which means
BYU could very well be the new favorite in the WCC, a competitive conference. We
recently found out an average WCC team can beat an average PAC12 team. There is more parity between conferences than is often realized. Cases in
point: Mercer just beat Duke, and North Dakota beat Oklahoma today... proving
conference affiliation is often overrated.Future is looking bright.
patriotWith all of its size and athleticism Utah couldn't beat
Saint Mary's in the NIT.And, Weber State, was more competitive
versus Arizona than the Utes.
I have heard that Jordan Chatman is more around 6'6" now. Can anyone
confirm this? I think that Jamal Aytes will also be a really good addition.
Let's hope that Chase can add some strength from the arc.
For all the Seniors coming back next year, still confident in one, Haws.
Carlino is too inconsistent and the BYU big men need to go to summer camp and
learn how to set screens, move with out the ball and set their guy-up - WOW!!!!!
basic skills, how did they even make the team. When BYU learns to pound the
ball inside and make shots then the outside shots will be open
the Y isn't big enough or athletic enough.