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Published: Friday, March 21 2014 11:45 a.m. MDT

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patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

the Y isn't big enough or athletic enough.

4blade2007
Provo, Utah

For all the Seniors coming back next year, still confident in one, Haws. Carlino is too inconsistent and the BYU big men need to go to summer camp and learn how to set screens, move with out the ball and set their guy-up - WOW!!!!! basic skills, how did they even make the team. When BYU learns to pound the ball inside and make shots then the outside shots will be open

Vladhagen
Salt Lake City, UT

I have heard that Jordan Chatman is more around 6'6" now. Can anyone confirm this? I think that Jamal Aytes will also be a really good addition. Let's hope that Chase can add some strength from the arc.

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

patriot

With all of its size and athleticism Utah couldn't beat Saint Mary's in the NIT.

And, Weber State, was more competitive versus Arizona than the Utes.

Tators
Hyrum, UT

Things are looking good by not losing a single starter to graduation next year. In addition, BYU will be bringing in some talented transfers from Wake Forest and UNLV, both great basketball programs.

BYU definitely would've done better in the tournament had they not lost Collinsworth, one of their top starters, in the last game of the season.

Like most programs, BYU did suffer through a few inexplicable upsets. With around 35 games played, there are bound to be a few off-nights. The Utah game hurt, but the Utes proved to be very tough at home this season. However, their next game will be in Provo, which should get the results back to the norm of this past decade.

Gonzaga will be losing more players than BYU next season, which means BYU could very well be the new favorite in the WCC, a competitive conference. We recently found out an average WCC team can beat an average PAC12 team.
There is more parity between conferences than is often realized. Cases in point: Mercer just beat Duke, and North Dakota beat Oklahoma today... proving conference affiliation is often overrated.

Future is looking bright.

Arizona Reader
Gilbert, AZ

If the heading of this article were true, then we should have been using this motivation to get better for 9 of the last 11 tourneys we've been ousted in the first round. I hope things improve and I'll be there to cheer on my Cougars when they do, but as a lifelong fan, this is getting a bit frustrating.

Stop building us for a season and go win a tournament. When was the last time we won the Conference tournament at the end of the year? When was the last time we stepped up like some of these other mid-major teams and knocked off the big boys in the first round? I'll give us credit for the year we had Jimmer and then Davies ruined our title hopes. I'm ready to stop talking about "potential" as a Cougar and get some real results. Lets get it done BYU!!!

DHinChas
Charleston, WV

Now that all the men’s Utah basketball teams are done for the season, from ESPN.com and updated to include this years’ efforts…

All-time Men’s NCAA Basketball Tournament Records:

Southern Utah University… 0 wins, 1 defeat
Weber State University… 6 wins, 16 defeats
Utah State University… 6 wins, 22 defeats
Brigham Young University…15 wins, 31 defeats
University of Utah… 35 wins, 30 defeats

MUSSing with U
Baltimore, MD

DHinChas

All of which proves diddly since the Utes haven't won an NCAA tournament game in almost a decade.

Big Dance records during the Dave Rose era:

BYU 4-7
Utah 0-1

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

With five incoming freshman / transfers and only one outgoing player leaving for a mission, something has to give.

It will be interesting to see which current players are impacted.

It will also be interesting to see if Collinsworth is ready to come back at the beginning of the season or if he needs to RS. If Collinsworth is able to come back, I expect next years team to be slightly better than this year, in spite of losing Mika.

flatlander
Omaha, NE

Since NCAA only allows 13 scholarships on a team COUGFANINTX has a point. Six seniors back, Bartley, collinswoth, worthington make nine and five new ones. Must assume all the others on the bench are walk ons so someone else is not on scholarship. Gonna be hard for anyone new to get playing time next year.

Francisco
Alpine/Utah, UT

As a Cougar fan, I am having a hard time getting excited about next year. Granted, Haws and Collinsworth will be back but the Cougs will need much more than that. Where is the big man who can score? I don't think it will be Andrus and I know it will not be Worthington. Austin will hustle his guts out but he won't score. Unless Rose can get a big J.C. transfer who can score, nothing much is going to change next year. Realistically, I think BYU is about 3 years away from being a very good team.

bigirish
OREM, UT

So we have the same guys to look forward to next year, more or less. Can't deny their effort, but why so streaky and inconsistent? I really hate to hear Haws in an interview spouting the party line..."We're playing our best basketball right now", after losing to Gonzaga and almost being beat by SF. Sure didn't show against Oregon when we shot 33%. Every time we bow out in the first game, same kinds of excuses. I think he actually got worse at the end of the season, and that too many of his points comes from free throws and not from consistent shooting. Carlino is so streaky too, still struggling with decision making and charging inside, though he has some great nights. Other guys show up and don't, but no consistent constant dependable pure shooters, Haws the closest thing to it. And I know it's a big deal to get into the NCAA at all. Just always think we'll do better...and sure hope those seniors next year can win the games they're supposed to without silly lapses and fouls, with better D and 3-pt shooting from someone.

MizzouBlue
Carthage, MO

Do you really think the potential is there for us to be better next season? Perhaps. But if we continue to play the way we played this year we'll get the same results. First, Nate Austin-is less effective on offense now than he was two seasons ago. Plus, Luke Worthington is limited offensively. Net result: like this year, teams concentrate on stopping three players because they don't have to worry about our bigs. Second, we are not very good on defense. Coaches should insist that if players want on the court they not only need to be able to score, but must play solid defense as well. Third, player improvement/development. It seems like too many players go through our program without improving a lot for the next level or to even be more effective currently. Nate Austin's offensive skills is a good example. Nate will be a senior next year & in three years he appears less effective than he was as a sophomore. Jimmer Fredette's poor defensive skills have really hurt him in the NBA.
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MizzouBlue
Carthage, MO

Sorry. Somehow I accidentally submitted my comments without finishing, here's how I wanted to conclude:

Yes. The "potential" is there for us to be better next year. However, we'll need contributions from all 5 players on the floor, not just three; much more commitment to defense; & players to improve in areas where they are currently lacking. By so doing, our potential is very high. Go Cougs!

DHinChas
Charleston, WV

Hello MUSSing...

Hey, dude - my earlier post included the all-time NCAA tourney records of four Utah schools. Why the focus on a comparison between Utah and BYU? And why the focus on the Dave Rose era?

BYUBlue-myopia diminishes the equally significant eras of of Roger Reid, Frank Arnold, Stew Morrill,Rick Majerus, and many others... The stats were all-time ones, and when I looked for the stats I was interested in seeking how close Utah State, Weber State, and BYU were in terms of the prowess in the Big Dance.

I figured Utah was far ahead over the years (54% all time), but the other three aren't that far apart - BYU 33%, Weber State 27%, Utah State 21%.

Though a diehard Weber State fan, its fun to watch the Blue-Red bickering and given your desire to focus on Utah and BYU in the 'here and now' and if people look at all the sports both schools play, dare I suggest you look at the current Duel in the Desert score:

Utah 41 BYU 6...

Looking forward to next year's basketball season where I believe the Cougars and Utes will make the tourney. Hopefully Weber will again too...Go Cats!!

wallyball
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

I agree with Francisco and Mizzoublue. The need for a tough, aggressive JC big man is critical. His ability to rebound and defend is more important than scoring. The post players haven't improved but have gotten worse over time. Nate Austin is a prime example. A new coach that can teach defense and hold the players accountable is mandatory. BYU's zone defense is the worst that I have seen in any game this year. The scheme and the effort are both pathetic. Sharp, Worthington and Austin are offensive negatives. Encourage Worthington to go on a mission and let Sharp move on. Without an aggressive inside presence and some defensive accountability, BYU will continue to struggle to get to the next level.

Scores
Idaho Falls, ID

13 Scholarship players is the limit. BYU has for next season:
Aytes
Fischer
Haws
Collinsworth
Winder
Bartley
Carlino
Austin
Neilsen
Andrus
Worthington
Sharp
Halford
Chatman

Looks to me like one of the above might not be back next year: Worthington could decide for a mission. Halford might transfer. Sharp could spend time in the weight room and get stronger. Austin could focus on shooting open 10-foot shots and score some points. And maybe Coach Rose could realize that a 1-3-1 Zone covers 3-pt shooters better than a 2-3. And just maybe they come back next season a lot more disciplined in their offensive sets and pass the ball to hit the open man....like Oregon did.

BlueHusky
Mission Viejo, CA

32 teams were one and done, including Duke, Ohio State, Oklahoma State ... see, CB, it is not the size of the gym or conference membership.

LA Times had an article on how little RPI means in the actual play. But since it is used for selection, Rose's strategy of playing ranked team OOC is good. Now if we could get some of them in Provo, better.

As for next year, Neilson, from my neck of the woods (I know his family), is very tall but lanky. Not the body mass of Mika. He's been back for a while and has been working out with the team. Maybe he'll be a help.

My first goal would be to win the WCC championship and tournament. Then let the NCAA take care of itself.

cougar76
Raleigh, NC

For DHinChas, u can't win or lose NCAA tournament games if you don"t play any. And bigirish, don't forget about making more freethrows.

Jack from Ark
Hensley, AR

Just to say I am a BYU fan and am happy to see them make the Dance. The fact that they lost in the first round is disappointing but they did make it and there are a bunch of great teams that didn't. Health and timing are so important and we didn't get it this year. Good Work guys and better health and timing next year. GO Cougs

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